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Your move, Rastafarians... (Original Post) ehrnst Jul 2014 OP
Funny.... Rebubula Jul 2014 #1
A gross generalization n/t malaise Jul 2014 #4
Not that gross.... Rebubula Jul 2014 #15
Rasta clubs in Jamaica? malaise Jul 2014 #16
Really? I had no idea. Coventina Jul 2014 #6
That's what I thought of too, reading the decision treestar Jul 2014 #2
It's only fair that atheists also get to choose a law they don't want to follow. tridim Jul 2014 #3
Except that would define atheism as a religion, which it isn't IDemo Jul 2014 #5
Atheism is already clearly defined. No worries there. tridim Jul 2014 #8
word Soylent Brice Jul 2014 #7
Equal protection under the law. Iggo Jul 2014 #14
I'm just in for breakfast after morning chores and I read that as PASTAfarians! riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #9
Heck! They should do it too! And the FSM cult! Special privileges for everyone! Coventina Jul 2014 #10
And the SubGeniuses, too derby378 Jul 2014 #17
AMEN!! Coventina Jul 2014 #18
Christian Science is the real test! HenryWallace Jul 2014 #11
K&R. Yes please! Overseas Jul 2014 #12
Religious use of marijuana defense prevails in Minnesota Rastafarian case: Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #13
LOL. freshwest Jul 2014 #19

Rebubula

(2,868 posts)
1. Funny....
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 08:34 AM
Jul 2014

....except Rastas tend to be anti-gay as a group....rabidly so....advocating torture and death of gays in thier music

Rebubula

(2,868 posts)
15. Not that gross....
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 11:21 AM
Jul 2014

...I stand by my statement. Listen to the music coming from the Rude Boys and the house music that plays in Rasta clubs in Jamaica and NYC.

If you care to debate - be more than happy, but the Rasta and the Jamaican music tell a very different story.

Coventina

(27,093 posts)
6. Really? I had no idea.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:27 AM
Jul 2014

Time to do some research.....

on edit: Just did some very cursory research, and WOW! I had no idea I was so ignorant about Rastafarians. I really had no idea they were so closely tied in to Christianity and that they identified as Christian. Very unfortunate that one of the "Christian" things some have adopted is the homophobia.

Thanks for the prompt that helped me learn something. (Although I clearly still have much more to learn).

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. That's what I thought of too, reading the decision
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 08:38 AM
Jul 2014

They ought to fight a case in a state still prohibiting marijuana.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
3. It's only fair that atheists also get to choose a law they don't want to follow.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 08:41 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:38 AM - Edit history (1)

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
5. Except that would define atheism as a religion, which it isn't
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:23 AM
Jul 2014

I'm with you, otherwise. How about declining to pay the portion of taxes that supports the missing revenue from churches?

tridim

(45,358 posts)
8. Atheism is already clearly defined. No worries there.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:37 AM
Jul 2014

I'm just talking about fairness. Why are religious people granted special rights to choose which laws they follow?

What happens if they decide that it is legal to murder atheists?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
9. I'm just in for breakfast after morning chores and I read that as PASTAfarians!
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:48 AM
Jul 2014


(I'm really hungry)

It took me a full minute trying to puzzle out what the fuck John Fugelsang meant...



Coventina

(27,093 posts)
10. Heck! They should do it too! And the FSM cult! Special privileges for everyone!
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:50 AM
Jul 2014

Then maybe Congress will see what a nutty SCOTUS decision this was and take appropriate action.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
17. And the SubGeniuses, too
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 11:45 AM
Jul 2014

Remember, Bob said that abortion is murder, but it's murder in self-defense.

 

HenryWallace

(332 posts)
11. Christian Science is the real test!
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:02 AM
Jul 2014

This decision will prove to be an Albatross around the Roberts Court's neck!

Some sects of Christian Science believe exclusively in "faith" healing. Will closely held shareholders with these beliefs be allowed to opt out of the ACA in its entirety?

Next comes a group of cases which will have to litigate the exact meaning of "Religious Belief (what constitutes true conscientious faith vs. economic conversions).

What about minority shareholder rights in the Religious Beliefs of their Corporation?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
13. Religious use of marijuana defense prevails in Minnesota Rastafarian case:
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:13 AM
Jul 2014
Is religious use of marijuana a defense to a marijuana criminal charge? A recent Minnesota Court of Appeals case indicates the answer may be “yes.” In an unpublished opinion, In the matter of the Welfare of J.J.M.A., A13-0295, filed September 23, 2013, the Minnesota Court of Appeals reversed a juvenile’s delinquency adjudication based on his sincerely held religious belief as a Rastafarian, on a petty misdemeanor marijuana paraphernalia charge.

The fifteen year old boy was a practicing Rastafarian – a religion that has incorporated religious use of marijuana for nearly 100 years. The lower court found him guilty of the paraphernalia charge, despite also finding that “Rastafari is a true religion and that J.J.M.A. has a sincerely held belief in the tenets of that religion,” because he “failed to satisfy his burden of showing that the Rastafari religion requires him to carry his pipe with him at all times.” The Minnesota Court of Appeals reversed that adjudication of guilt, based on the Minnesota Constitution’s freedom-of-conscience clause, article 1, section 16:

The right of every man to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience shall never be infringed . . . nor shall any control of or interference with the rights of conscience be permitted . . . ; but the liberty of conscience hereby secured shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness or justify practices inconsistent with the peace or safety of the state.

Minnesota’s Constitution provides more protection for religious freedom than the United States Constitution does. “’This language is of a distinctively stronger character than the federal counterpart’ because it ‘precludes even an infringement on or an interference with religious freedom.’” State v. Hershberger, 462 N.W.2d 393, 397 (Minn. 1990) (Hershberger II).

http://minneapoliscriminallawyer.liberty-lawyer.com/2013/09/24/religious-use-of-marijuana-defense-prevails-in-minnesota-rastafarian-case/

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