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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 02:32 PM Jul 2014

Ralph Nader calls for the impeachment of Obama while he praises libertarians.

Ralph Nader's America: Impeach Obama, decriminalize drugs, libertarians & progressives unite!
By Jeff Zeleny, Jordyn Phelps, and Alexandra Dukakis


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“On Capitol Hill, I'm seeing more and more in Congress, left and right,” Nader told “The Fine Print.” “It was a vote in the House over a year ago over the NSA snooping, it almost broke through … so we're beginning to see formulations that once they click together, they're unstoppable.”

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Nader expects there is going to be a growth of left-right alliances in Congress, pointing to the war on drugs and bank regulatory efforts as areas of possibly confluence. On the war on drugs, Nader said that the United States should entirely decriminalize and move to regulate all drugs in the same way alcohol and tobacco are regulated.

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When it comes to the current president, Nader said that Obama has violated the Constitution on several occasions and should be impeached.

"Oh, most definitely," Nader said when asked if Congress should bring forward articles of impeachment against Obama.
"The reason why Congress doesn't want to do it is because it's abdicated its own responsibility under the Constitution."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/ralph-naders-america-impeach-obama-decriminalize-drugs-libertarians-progressives-unite-110418813.html


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Ralph Nader calls for the impeachment of Obama while he praises libertarians. (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 OP
I've said it before, and I'll say it again....Fuck the S.S. Nader, and all who sail in him! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #1
I'll join you fuck all of them. we can do it Jul 2014 #4
!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #13
Can't be said enough mcar Jul 2014 #29
Couldn't agree more. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #38
Leopards, spots.,. riqster Jul 2014 #2
The Left's Ann Coulter Wolf Frankula Jul 2014 #3
this asshole has always been a ridiculous clown.....he needs to sit down an stfu bowens43 Jul 2014 #5
No, he hasn't ALWAYS been a ridiculous clown. That's what's so tragic. Jim Lane Jul 2014 #53
STFU NADER please! mylye2222 Jul 2014 #6
Tell me why domestic surveillance without a warrant isn't an impeachable offense. OnyxCollie Jul 2014 #7
I assume you're referring to the meta data collection in which a warrant was obtained? Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #9
Because it was done in accordance with a law passed by Congress.n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #10
Are you calling for Obama's impeachment?... SidDithers Jul 2014 #12
Every time. nt Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #19
yes, i would not vote for Obama or other Dems if i felt that way about them JI7 Jul 2014 #42
Because it was done under the USA PATRIOT Act? MohRokTah Jul 2014 #15
Since you haven't responded, I'm assuming your idiotic non-question was answered? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #21
Kindly cite the specific instance of which you speak. I'll wait. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #22
He can't, he hasn't received the latest tp's to back up the claim. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #36
why are you on a website that supports Democrats if you feel that way about the Dem PRes and the JI7 Jul 2014 #43
Which part of the Constitution... Orsino Jul 2014 #8
Accept bribes??? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #47
I'll STFU, gladly, after someone links me... Orsino Jul 2014 #54
So you're claiming that the diplomatic appointment ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #56
I'm only waiting for a list of Tsunis' other qualifications. Orsino Jul 2014 #57
In other words ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #58
His qualifications should be easily Googleable, but somehow I can't find them. Orsino Jul 2014 #59
So tell us ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #60
Defending sinecures for donors is not the hill you want to defend, I can see. Orsino Jul 2014 #61
Okay. eom 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #63
Did he do it from him multi-million dollar town home? LordGlenconner Jul 2014 #11
I seem to recall a DUer posting something about impeachment and how Obama should resign. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #14
Exhibit Z in the case of why anyone who defends Nader's honor is not our friend. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #16
Fuck off Nader. Initech Jul 2014 #17
Fuck Ralph Nader sharp_stick Jul 2014 #18
Ralph Nader, the king of "Both Sides Do It" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2014 #20
I have three points for Ralph "Wiggum" Nader. Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #23
Well said! Don't stop! freshwest Jul 2014 #49
I Have Said It Before, Sir, And Expect To Do Again: FUCK NADER!!! The Magistrate Jul 2014 #24
Oh brother. . . wndycty Jul 2014 #25
Wow! Long time no see!! greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #27
Back in 2000, Nader had 4 million in oil stocks. Dawson Leery Jul 2014 #26
Posted to for later reading. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #28
I like Nader Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #30
Finally, we agree on something. Not a "rat's ass". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #35
"I don't think I've ever met a bigger asshole" - Bob Weir/Grateful Dead DinahMoeHum Jul 2014 #31
It had to be said! Thanks Bob Weir! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #34
"[W]e wouldn't be in Iraq and thousands of people wouldn't have died needlessly." OnyxCollie Jul 2014 #37
You know what else is "a display of ignorance"? Take another look at this, and answer the ensuing.. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #40
yeah, and Rush Limbaugh , Fox News and other hateful assholes have nothing to do with Teabaggers JI7 Jul 2014 #46
How did nader get tied to progressives... Historic NY Jul 2014 #32
He long ago was a really good environmentalist. Rex Jul 2014 #55
interesting article, but I'm skeptical smiley Jul 2014 #33
Nader's a ratfucker. Cha Jul 2014 #39
Fuck Ralph Nader ellie Jul 2014 #41
Anyone on DU who supports Ralph Nader should be banned. This is DU!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #44
LS, not more mods, only juries and the TOS is narrow and only enforced during general elections. freshwest Jul 2014 #50
And? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #45
Ralph Nader is a sellout Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2014 #48
Nader is a communist fuckwit bluestateguy Jul 2014 #51
he is starting to sould like crazee anthrax coulter. pansypoo53219 Jul 2014 #52
Must be an election year Spirochete Jul 2014 #62

Wolf Frankula

(3,598 posts)
3. The Left's Ann Coulter
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 02:39 PM
Jul 2014

He's about fame and fortune for Ralfie Rumplesuit, and posturing before adoring crowds of Ralfers. (Ralfers, that's my name for Rumplesuit's followers.)

Wolf

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
53. No, he hasn't ALWAYS been a ridiculous clown. That's what's so tragic.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 05:13 AM
Jul 2014

In his productive years he did a hell of a lot of good in this country. I was a big admirer of his.

So fallen! so lost! the light withdrawn
Which once he wore;
The glory from his gray hairs gone
For evermore!

-- John Greenleaf Whittier
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
9. I assume you're referring to the meta data collection in which a warrant was obtained?
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 02:52 PM
Jul 2014

Is metadata collection overkill? I believe it is.

Is it impeachable or even illegal?

Nope.

So you do think Obama should be impeached over it?

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
12. Are you calling for Obama's impeachment?...
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 03:08 PM
Jul 2014

I'll wait.

Posting privileges before principles, I'll bet.

Sid

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
15. Because it was done under the USA PATRIOT Act?
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 03:13 PM
Jul 2014

It was 100% legal?

Your beef is with the USA PATRIOT Act which has withstood SCOTUS scrutiny?

I'm all for repealing that abomination but really, you think following the law is an impeachable offense?

JI7

(89,241 posts)
43. why are you on a website that supports Democrats if you feel that way about the Dem PRes and the
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:47 PM
Jul 2014

party that supports him ?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
8. Which part of the Constitution...
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 02:50 PM
Jul 2014

...permits the Chief Executive to order extra-judicial killing, indefinite detention without charge, or to accept bribes?

'Cause I think that's a case for impeachment, if there is one, and could have been brought against more presidents than Obama.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
47. Accept bribes??? ...
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 11:56 PM
Jul 2014

Okay ... link to it or stfu about impeachment.

The rest of your concern is contained in the Commander in Chief role under the Congressionally passed Patriot Acts.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
59. His qualifications should be easily Googleable, but somehow I can't find them.
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 03:57 PM
Jul 2014

I'm sure that one of his fans will enlighten us.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
60. So tell us ...
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 04:00 PM
Jul 2014

what does his unfindable qualifications have to do with your bribery assertion?

BTW, my google seems to be working just fine.

http://www.allgov.com/news/appointments-and-resignations/ambassador-to-norway-who-is-george-tsunis-131207?news=851850

I'm not a fan of Tsunis; but I am less of a fan of B.S.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
61. Defending sinecures for donors is not the hill you want to defend, I can see.
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 04:23 PM
Jul 2014

And I agree. Oh, I know that we have long been conditioned to accept a little quid pro quo, and by Citizens United standards ambassadorships for cronies are small potatoes. But it is paying for access to money and power, and it's not something that we necessarily have to tolerate or minimize, if we care.

Let's not pretend that it's something fundamentally different from what the law recognizes as bribery...no more than I would claim that Obama invented it.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
14. I seem to recall a DUer posting something about impeachment and how Obama should resign.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jul 2014

NAder apparently doesn't understand how impeachment works based upon his comments.

Initech

(100,043 posts)
17. Fuck off Nader.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jul 2014

We didn't impeach George Bush and Dick Cheney for war crimes but we'll impeach Obama because of a bullshit, fact less, Fox News talking point about an embassy attack that refuses to die? Fuck that!

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
23. I have three points for Ralph "Wiggum" Nader.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 05:42 PM
Jul 2014

One: NSA surveillance is legal, according to the courts, and it was in place long before Obama became president. Just because you don't like surveillance, that doesn't necessarily make it an impeachable offense, and plenty of other countries use forms of surveillance, as well. Why single out the U.S.?
Two: If you want the drug laws to change, help elect more people to Congress who oppose the Drug War. A President has no power to change legislation--they only sign or veto it. Furthermore, libertarians mostly want the federal drug policy to stop being enforced. They're OK with the Drug War being waged in individual states.
Three: An alliance among progressives and libertarians wouldn't last long at all. Libertarianism is the antithesis of progressivism. Libertarians oppose all government period, except for maybe the police and the military. They don't like the safety net. They want to do away with the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. They hate gun control. They hate environmental regulations and food nutrition standards. They don't want anti-discrimination laws for businesses. They want to do away with taxes. They oppose public schooling. They oppose government-run health care. I could go on...

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
30. I like Nader
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 06:07 PM
Jul 2014

could give a rats ass what anyone here thinks as I am certain many of you will feel the same about what I think.

DinahMoeHum

(21,776 posts)
31. "I don't think I've ever met a bigger asshole" - Bob Weir/Grateful Dead
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 06:24 PM
Jul 2014

regarding Ralph Nader

http://artists.refuseandresist.org/news14/news679.html

(snip)
Ralph Nader is the most arrogant and narcissistic guy I've ever met. I had a meeting with him in the early Nineties. I was jazzed going into the meeting, and I was disgusted leaving. I don't think I've ever met a bigger asshole. If he hadn't run in the last election, we wouldn't be in Iraq and thousands of people wouldn't have died needlessly.
(snip)

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
37. "[W]e wouldn't be in Iraq and thousands of people wouldn't have died needlessly."
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:44 PM
Jul 2014

Nader did not vote for the Iraq war. He has no more authority to send the US military into another country than you or I.

Blaming Nader for Iraq is a display of ignorance.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
46. yeah, and Rush Limbaugh , Fox News and other hateful assholes have nothing to do with Teabaggers
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:51 PM
Jul 2014

who get violent .

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
55. He long ago was a really good environmentalist.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 07:31 PM
Jul 2014

Should have never made the career switch to politician.


Now the only thing that seems attracted to Nader, is pies.

smiley

(1,432 posts)
33. interesting article, but I'm skeptical
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 06:33 PM
Jul 2014

I'd be interested to see the exact transcript from when he said this. His quoted words in the article do not say he is calling for impeachment and could very well be taken out of context to fit a narrative.

I'm very skeptical of yahoo news.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
44. Anyone on DU who supports Ralph Nader should be banned. This is DU!!
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:49 PM
Jul 2014

Where the fuck are the mods? Why aren't they enforcing the fucking rules?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
50. LS, not more mods, only juries and the TOS is narrow and only enforced during general elections.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 12:27 AM
Jul 2014
But opinions are shaped and promoted 365 days a year and take their toll...

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
45. And?
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:50 PM
Jul 2014

Ralph Nader is presently irrelevant to anything. And one presumes that if he's calling for Obama's impeachment it's probably over things like drone warfare and NSA surveillance, not being a secret Kenyan terrorist or whatever craziness the extreme right want him impeached for.

And he praises libertarians for support of drug decriminalisation and opposition to NSA surveillance? So? Are civil liberties a bad thing, now?

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
62. Must be an election year
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 04:26 PM
Jul 2014

That phony jackrag never tries to do anything to help. We never hear from him in between elections. He just sits with his thumb up his ass for three years, until there's a pending election. Then there he is, pissing in the soup again...

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