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Dr. Drew thinks the hot car dad's actions were a result of sex addiction (Original Post) fried eggs Jul 2014 OP
I'm sorry, musta been something I ate. Feel fine, now. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #2
I was thinking 'Dr Frist'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #3
I was wondering Dr. Who's opinion. .. pipoman Jul 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #9
Has Dr. J weighed in? malaise Jul 2014 #33
Well, since Dr. Demento has already chimed in... LadyHawkAZ Jul 2014 #17
What research is he basing that opinion on I wonder? phil89 Jul 2014 #4
What's Dr Pepper's opinion? REP Jul 2014 #5
What does Dr.Dre say? bravenak Jul 2014 #6
from what mercuryblues Jul 2014 #7
Oh, horseshit! And that's just the kind liberalhistorian Jul 2014 #10
Not saying I agree with Dr. Drew, but sex addiction is a real disease fried eggs Jul 2014 #12
Unfortunately.... sendero Jul 2014 #19
Well, then, I guess we'll liberalhistorian Jul 2014 #28
Sex addiction didn't make him plan the murder of a baby. Iggo Jul 2014 #37
I can see how some obsession can cause neglect betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #11
And what do other doctors, many with more relevant experience, have to say? JHB Jul 2014 #13
I suppose it had to be that or Twinkies... Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #14
Do you have a link? Little Star Jul 2014 #15
No. Saw it live on HLN fried eggs Jul 2014 #16
Oh goody. A celebrity doctor diagnoses a guy he's never examined LadyHawkAZ Jul 2014 #18
I call BS. It irks me when sex "addiction" is lumped in with drug & alcohol addiction. catbyte Jul 2014 #20
Maybe. For the sake if argument nolabear Jul 2014 #21
Sex addiction is a very real, disturbing disorder... Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #23
What studies are you citing? Seriously, I am curious. catbyte Jul 2014 #24
I'm not citing quantitative studies in this instance. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #25
I see what you're saying. I am sure it exists, much like rape which is also not about catbyte Jul 2014 #26
So what you appear to be saying ... GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #40
There are peer-reviewed case studies confirming the existence of sex addiction. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #43
People seem so certain, isn't it curious that the APA didn't include it in the DSM-5? HereSince1628 Jul 2014 #39
Most of the therapists and psychologists I know are very skeptical of the DSM. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #44
"Hot Car Dad"? Is that what Nancy Grace dubbed him? Quantess Jul 2014 #22
I refuse to form an opinion until we hear the definitive word from Dr. Seuss. Orrex Jul 2014 #27
I'm with you. cwydro Jul 2014 #29
What would Dr. Johnny Fever say? alp227 Jul 2014 #30
Nobody's heard from him since he went underground to hide from the Phone Cops pinboy3niner Jul 2014 #35
Booger. Iggo Jul 2014 #38
Dr. Drew is a moron. nt TBF Jul 2014 #31
Dr. Zaius thinks Dr. Drew is going ape over this pinboy3niner Jul 2014 #32
I hate doctors who abuse ther position by offering diagnoses for money CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #34
I can almost hear Adam Carolla saying something weirdly goofy in the background aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #36
Narcissism seems more likely. GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #41
Dr. Firstname...I recently realized I have no idea who any of them are. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #42
The sex addiction excuse. MoonRiver Jul 2014 #45

Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. I was thinking 'Dr Frist'.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:45 PM
Jul 2014

Nothing like diagnosing someone who isn't your patient and on whom you have no info other than a few skimpy news stories, maybe a pic or video...

Response to pipoman (Reply #8)

mercuryblues

(14,491 posts)
7. from what
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:50 PM
Jul 2014

I have read about dr drew. He is a fucking idiot. Always trying to give an out/ excuse to the males for their crimes. But loves to blame a female victim for wearing too much make up and clothing choices.

liberalhistorian

(20,809 posts)
10. Oh, horseshit! And that's just the kind
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:01 PM
Jul 2014

of made-up half-baked hog tripe that I'd expect a hack like Drew to espouse and promote. And I don't even believe in sex "addiction", it is absolute bullshit, completely made up both to shame those who actually have the gall and nerve to like sex and who go against what this culture's decided its "norms" should be regarding the type, amount and frequency of it, and to make money for Big Pharma and Big Psychiatry. Period.

fried eggs

(910 posts)
12. Not saying I agree with Dr. Drew, but sex addiction is a real disease
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jul 2014

And Justin Ross' behavior seems to indicate he had a severe case. When you can't restrain your sexting at work, that's a sign of a loss of control.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
19. Unfortunately....
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:32 PM
Jul 2014

.. sex addiction does not absolve him of his crimes. Tough shit for him and probably his wife also, they are going to prison.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
11. I can see how some obsession can cause neglect
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:03 PM
Jul 2014

but this appears to be premeditated murder for insurance or sum such.

JHB

(37,133 posts)
13. And what do other doctors, many with more relevant experience, have to say?
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:22 PM
Jul 2014

Having a show does not indicate superior expertise.

In fact, there's a fair case that it contra-indicates expertise, since the entire nature of the show pressures the host to sound more authoritative than they are outside their field. And that's the ones who make an honest effort, and are not just showboating from the get-go.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
18. Oh goody. A celebrity doctor diagnoses a guy he's never examined
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:32 PM
Jul 2014

with a disorder that isn't officially recognized. I'm totally convinced!

catbyte

(34,174 posts)
20. I call BS. It irks me when sex "addiction" is lumped in with drug & alcohol addiction.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:34 AM
Jul 2014

It appears to me that so-called sex addiction has more to do with selfishness, no self control, & immaturity than anything. I haven't seen the same genetic links with that as I have for chemical dependencies. Is Dr. Drew trying to drum up more business?

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
21. Maybe. For the sake if argument
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:52 AM
Jul 2014

Because I don't believe in diagnosing en absentia, you could make a case that he's addicted to sex the way a gambler is addicted, jonesing for the high from the sexual stimulation and the forbidden nature of it, and saw the baby as standing in his way. It's not an excuse at all. But it could hold water as a reason, like sociopathy is a reason.

Most godawful thing I've heard of in a long time, no matter why.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
23. Sex addiction is a very real, disturbing disorder...
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:17 AM
Jul 2014

Sex addiction is not really about the sex act itself more than the sex act being a conduit for the addictive process and the deeply uncontrollable mechanization of immediate gratification.

Sex addicts will generally admit that as they fall deeper into the addictive process, sex becomes completely devoid of emotional, intellectual or social meaning. They will have sex with any willing person at any time under almost any condition. It becomes "getting off" in its purest form.

Once this process runs out of control, other ways of releasing chemicals like dopamine are pushed out. The addiction becomes the singular drive for existence.

There is nothing romantic about this addiction. The person is not acting immaturely. They are deep within the throws of true addiction.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
25. I'm not citing quantitative studies in this instance.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:55 AM
Jul 2014

Although quantitative analysis of sex addiction does exist, what I've learned about sex addiction has been through, essentially, case study.

Also, I want to be clear here, the popular conception of sex addiction as merely the overabundance of sexual desire or partners is incorrect. Which makes the actual number of true sex addicts much, much smaller than popularly imagined. You are not a sex addict because you're very sexually active or even sexually irresponsible.

I see no evidence that this murderous father is a sex addict (even if he was truly a sex addict, it would not explain in any way the crime he committed).

catbyte

(34,174 posts)
26. I see what you're saying. I am sure it exists, much like rape which is also not about
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 10:48 AM
Jul 2014

sex, but power, anger & control. I also know that it is probably a very rare condition and folks use it to justify their bad behavior. This guy just sounds like a creep rather than someone suffering from something. Thanks for answering me.

Have a safe holiday!

GeorgeGist

(25,294 posts)
40. So what you appear to be saying ...
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:35 PM
Jul 2014

is that you have no scientific peer-reviewed studies to back up your case studies.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
43. There are peer-reviewed case studies confirming the existence of sex addiction.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:02 PM
Jul 2014

I'm just not going to post them because I did not use them to justify my belief in the addiction (so it would be disingenuous for me to use them now) and there are also studies arguing that no such addiction exists. This could turn into yet another pointless pissing contest over which side has more abundant or recent case studies.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
39. People seem so certain, isn't it curious that the APA didn't include it in the DSM-5?
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jul 2014

IMO there are a number of mental disorders that have been left out. So, I'm not saying that something authentic might not be included...

But it does suggest a lack of ability of the APA to come together on specifications/criteria needed. I can imagine this makes sex addiction therapists unhappy.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
44. Most of the therapists and psychologists I know are very skeptical of the DSM.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:05 PM
Jul 2014

The manual has a long history of being ideologically entrenched. Truthfully, the entire field of psychology suffers from such an ailment.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
22. "Hot Car Dad"? Is that what Nancy Grace dubbed him?
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:13 AM
Jul 2014

I can just imagine Nancy Grace obsessively talking about the Hot Car Dad every day up until the verdict.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
32. Dr. Zaius thinks Dr. Drew is going ape over this
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jul 2014

And that the life insurance policies are just chimp change.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
34. I hate doctors who abuse ther position by offering diagnoses for money
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:09 PM
Jul 2014

of people they have never even met. Nasty Doctors.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
36. I can almost hear Adam Carolla saying something weirdly goofy in the background
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:25 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:30 PM - Edit history (1)

If you don't know, Dr. Drew had a sex and comedy show with funny man Adam Carolla on rock and roll radio station KROQ in Los Angeles, listened to by a lot of young people. It was called Loveline and consisted largely of underage high school kids calling in with their often kinky stories of sexual activity, supposedly seeking sexual advice but often just trying to say outrageous things. Carolla provided the comedy and goofed on them while Dr. Drew played the straight man, pretending to be the serious parent who deplored the out of control sexuality like high school girls claiming they were making it with their younger sister, the very activity that made the show popular and that paid Dr. Drew's salary.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
42. Dr. Firstname...I recently realized I have no idea who any of them are.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:52 PM
Jul 2014

When the Dr Oz dust up happened in Congress, I had in my mind an image that turned out not to be Dr Oz, but Dr Phil. Now I'm thinking it might actually have been Dr Drew.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
45. The sex addiction excuse.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:14 PM
Jul 2014

Prepare to see that presented by Hot Car dad's defense, cause they got nothing else.

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