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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:07 AM Jul 2014

President Obama is the Fracking-Supporter-In-Chief

And he has a lot of company in the Democratic Party. Fracking is by far the greatest immediate threat to our water and air. It's either hypocrisy or cognitive dissonance writ large for those who acknowledge climate change to support the wild west of fracking, which is taking place with little regulation. President Obama and many dems do just that.

Sally Jewell: Obama's Pro-Fracking Climate Czar

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-03/sally-jewell-obamas-pro-fracking-climate-czar

http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/2014/06/30/bipartisan-push-for-lng-export/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/01/29/obama-says-fracking-offers-a-bridge-to-a-clean-energy-future-its-not-that-simple/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/01/29/obama-says-fracking-offers-a-bridge-to-a-clean-energy-future-its-not-that-simple/

Obama Pushes Natural-Gas Fracking to Create 600,000 U.S. Jobs

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-25/obama-backs-fracking-to-create-600-000-jobs-vows-safe-drilling.html

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/climatism-watching-climate-science/2013/may/22/obama-administration-supports-fracking-and-natural/

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President Obama is the Fracking-Supporter-In-Chief (Original Post) cali Jul 2014 OP
There's got to be a much better way to create jobs. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2014 #1
There's a lot of $$ in it. Talking percentage of world economy. delrem Jul 2014 #2
I wish people were less ignorant about energy. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #3
I wish people were less ignorant about the state of fracking in this country cali Jul 2014 #5
Fracking does no more harm than what coal mining does. I grew up in southern WV, its atrocious. phleshdef Jul 2014 #10
'no more' iamthebandfanman Jul 2014 #18
LOL. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #13
oh, yes indeed. let us all enjoy ourselves a good roffle, shall we, hmmmnn? frylock Jul 2014 #15
I never said I did. but I rely on science, scientists and environmental organizations cali Jul 2014 #21
Have you seen the film Switch? TransitJohn Jul 2014 #24
Worse, fracking is used to dispose of toxic waste. joshcryer Jul 2014 #6
That is among the reasons I wrote what I did, that we need to require disclosure. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #8
If they disclose they'd be kicked out of every community. joshcryer Jul 2014 #9
There is full disclosure of every well TransitJohn Jul 2014 #26
FracFocus....seems to say that the "Trade Secrets" applies to some of the disclosures KoKo Jul 2014 #38
My state has a pending bill NOT to require disclosure of chemicals in the Fracking process which KoKo Jul 2014 #30
They know what they're doing, how to game the system. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #36
+1 nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #12
Every well that is fracked has full disclosure at fracfocus.org TransitJohn Jul 2014 #25
Yes coal is dying.. iamthebandfanman Jul 2014 #17
It's the US energy roadmap. joshcryer Jul 2014 #4
Ukraine needs the gas. Octafish Jul 2014 #7
That Nat Gas and Shale Oil is going to be exported. Tearing up country and poisoning our KoKo Jul 2014 #23
Remember when the government actually, you know, stood up for the people? Octafish Jul 2014 #27
Bingo... It's all about the benjamins, short term profits. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #29
Revolving Door: Heather Zichal, Former Obama Energy Aide, Named to Board of Fracked Gas Exports Co. KoKo Jul 2014 #31
I guess when you push for job exporting trade deals Joe Turner Jul 2014 #11
fracking is obsolete nationalize the fed Jul 2014 #14
unfortunately theres iamthebandfanman Jul 2014 #16
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2014 #19
We need a roadmap... ReRe Jul 2014 #20
Not the change I hoped for. Scuba Jul 2014 #22
I fear after the elections Cuomo will lift the ban on fracking here. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #28
No problem, get your town to ban it. The Appeals Court agrees that you can. Agony Jul 2014 #32
I was so glad for that ruling but there are towns that will allow fracking. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #33
Well you can at least get your town to ban it. Agony Jul 2014 #35
True. It looks like the southern Hudson counties are banning it. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #37
His advisors forgot to tell him that natgas is likely no better than coal wrt global warming.. Agony Jul 2014 #34

delrem

(9,688 posts)
2. There's a lot of $$ in it. Talking percentage of world economy.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:16 AM
Jul 2014

Those $$ are totally mixed up with military exploits across the entire planet.

You have a totally "bipartisan" admin in the US, across the entire economic military and MSM front, aside from some theatrics.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. I wish people were less ignorant about energy.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:41 AM
Jul 2014

As a nation, the proportion of renewable energy has been consistently rising, and our use of coal dropping.

Right now more and more of our electricity is generated by burning natural gas.

We need to do a LOT to make the change from Fossil Fuels to Renewables, but will take a long time.

All the easy stuff has been pumped out-- that's why they drill in deep water at such great risk.

With natgas, they now drill sideways into seams, drill further and more expensively, and they frack to get the most out of their $1,000,000 hole investment.

Fracking sucks. But then America is a wasteful consumer society, it's about a lot more than what Obama does.

The truth is that there probably isn't a person alive who could become president who would be able to stop fracking.

Baby steps: let's begin to require that companies divulge the admixtures used in fracking- that's probably going to have to be done state by state.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. I wish people were less ignorant about the state of fracking in this country
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:46 AM
Jul 2014

you clearly are just that. I am not against fracking if it's done safely and it's well regulated. It is fucking neither. Not even close. Do you know what the Halliburton loophole is? do you have any idea what it means?

safe fucking fracking, my fucking ass.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
10. Fracking does no more harm than what coal mining does. I grew up in southern WV, its atrocious.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:00 AM
Jul 2014

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
18. 'no more'
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:18 AM
Jul 2014

I still live around coal mines and I totally understand the coal industry is dying..
but that's mostly because of natural gas taking its market...

I welcome the death of coal..
but dunno if replacing it with another heavy polluter was really the solution some of us were looking for

finally an end to mountain top removal is approaching.. but it appears our water still wont be safe.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
13. LOL.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:08 AM
Jul 2014

I sincerely doubt that you know 1/2 as much about extraction processes and the history of energy exploitation as I do, and that's being generous.

You should calm down and re-read what I wrote. I didn't call you ignorant but many people are just that about energy, that's what I wrote.

People need to learn the history of extraction, need to appreciate how their choices and behaviors drive demand for resources and they need to shape up, and to encourage better choices among their friends and family.

Knee-jerk reaction and finger-pointing and blaming Obama just can't compare to familiarity with energy.

You could start by becoming familiar with the Department of Energy's Energy Information Administration's website and resources.

http://www.eia.gov/

And I highly recommend browsing a great document from DOE, "Energy Literacy", it's very comprehensible:

http://energy.gov/eere/education/energy-literacy-essential-principles-and-fundamental-concepts-energy-education

Maybe you already know some or all of this stuff, but it's very unlikely, especially the EIA materials, which include state, national, and global data.

Take care, I'm writing these replies for for enlightenment of other readers than to try to argue with you.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
15. oh, yes indeed. let us all enjoy ourselves a good roffle, shall we, hmmmnn?
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:59 AM
Jul 2014

Oklahoma has seen a boom in two things in recent years: oil and gas production and earthquakes..

To many residents, the timing says it all. Before the oil and gas industry started drilling so many underground injection wells, they say, it was rare to feel an earthquake. Today, Oklahoma is the second-most seismically active state in the continental United States, behind California.

Now they have some fresh scientific evidence to back up their observations. Researchers from Cornell University and the University of Colorado say a large swarm of earthquakes in central Oklahoma was probably caused by activity at a few highly active disposal wells, where wastewater from drilling operations — including hydraulic fracturing — is forced into deep geological formations for storage.

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-oklahoma-earthquakes-fracking-science-20140703-story.html

harharhar!!12

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. I never said I did. but I rely on science, scientists and environmental organizations
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 06:24 AM
Jul 2014

and no thanks, the government is heavily pro-fracking. I prefer to get information not propaganda, dear. I suppose you know all about the halliburton loop hole, right?

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
6. Worse, fracking is used to dispose of toxic waste.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:48 AM
Jul 2014

There's a reason the industry does not want chemical disclosure. Pretty much any liquid can be used to frack. And it ain't clean fresh filtered water.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
8. That is among the reasons I wrote what I did, that we need to require disclosure.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:57 AM
Jul 2014

If people think that a president is just going to outright ban hydraulic fracturing, which has been happening for decades, without explaining it, we'll never have another Democrat in the whitehouse.

The trim tab approach (see Bucky Fuller) is to push for public safety, disclosure, and then let the public outcry drive reform.

But be ready for higher energy prices and higher prices for all goods.

I don't mind the higher prices, it will drive better and more sustainable choices and behaviors by consumers, but it will slow the economy, too, and I'm also fine with that.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
9. If they disclose they'd be kicked out of every community.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:58 AM
Jul 2014

There would be incredible standards set up where you can only use clean filtered fresh water that you can drink, stuff like that. You'd have to install filtration plants at every site. It would probably even make it uneconomical to do it.

So there won't ever be disclosure.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
38. FracFocus....seems to say that the "Trade Secrets" applies to some of the disclosures
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:20 PM
Jul 2014

Remember the "Trade Secrets" is part of Citizens United decision" where Corporations are people..

Plus the site cautions that some components in the Fracking Solutions don't cause all people problems....but, some might be sensitive and then suggests you pay for your own testing.

Seemed a bit "Industry Focused" from my read. And, we know how clever Industry can be when wanting to convince consumers.

Here's a bit from your link to their website:



3. The listing of a chemical as proprietary on the fracturing record is based on the “Trade Secret ‡” provisions related to Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) found on the above link at 1910.1200(i)(1).

Is my groundwater safe to use?


This depends upon many factors including:

1. The level of chemicals in the groundwater; whether naturally occurring or introduced. (NOTE: The Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) for drinking water was established by the EPA and can be found on their website at: http://water.epa.gov/drink/contaminants/index.cfm . It is important to note, however, that not all chemicals, compounds or elements have an MCL. For example natural gas does not have an MCL; and

2. Your individual tolerance to some chemicals. While some chemicals such as Benzene can be toxic to everyone in quantities as low as a few parts per billion, the toxicity of other additives depends upon the individual. For example, some people are sensitive to Sodium due to conditions like high blood pressure. Consequently, a tolerable level of sodium for them might be lower than for a person without a similar condition. However, only you and your doctor can determine a safe level of exposure for you. To see a more comprehensive evaluation of chemical toxicity you should visit the website of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Integrated Risk Assessment System (IRIS); and

3. The use to which the groundwater is put (e.g. will it be used for human consumption, livestock consumption, irrigation, washing or bathing etc…).

The best way to determine if your groundwater is fit for its intended use is to have it analyzed by an accredited laboratory for all constituents of concern and to have that analysis evaluated by a qualified professional such as a toxicologist. You can often obtain a list of accredited laboratories from your County Extension Agent, State Water Quality Agency or local Health Department.


KoKo

(84,711 posts)
30. My state has a pending bill NOT to require disclosure of chemicals in the Fracking process which
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 11:55 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:23 PM - Edit history (1)

could effect the underground water supply. It's sponsored by the Koch Allies and has some Dems supporting it in the rural areas. Environmental groups will probably have to get a lawsuit to stop it....but, the way things are going the fracking will be underway well before a lawsuit winds it's way through the courts. And, given the status of some of the judges who would have to decide "Disclosure" might either lose or get kicked up to the Supremes. Meanwhile the damage is being done.

Pennsylvania has families who've had their drinking water poisoned with verified health effects and all they can hope for is settlement money from the Frackers to shut them up.

There's not likely to legally be a blanket disclosure with different drilling companies using different formulas for Fraking ingredients. So, disclosure for one doesn't mean disclosure for all if one wins a case against one company then you have start all over with a different company for their disclosure.

Plus, there's the problem of waste disposal and how much will be exported and not disclosed to the public, but hidden in legalese and trade agreement jargon.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
36. They know what they're doing, how to game the system.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 12:13 PM
Jul 2014

And, often, they own the local officials.

Thanks for pointing out the truth.

Despite other replies in this thread making contrary claims, the exact composition of fracturing fluids is considered proprietary information and is not disclosed.

In a few cases in which it is disclosed, it's not disclosed to the general public.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
25. Every well that is fracked has full disclosure at fracfocus.org
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 11:27 AM
Jul 2014

How can people not know this?
http://fracfocus.org/


There is a huge wall of obfuscation put out that has become conventional wisdom. Look up any well near you.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
4. It's the US energy roadmap.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:44 AM
Jul 2014

Natural gas peaking to supplant coal so you can use renewables. Later on a smart grid with electric cars doing the load balancing since they are parked most of the time. Vehicle to grid.

The US will be energy self-sufficient by around 2050.

It won't help the damage being caused until that point is reached.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
23. That Nat Gas and Shale Oil is going to be exported. Tearing up country and poisoning our
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 11:18 AM
Jul 2014

drinking water in communities to beef up our exports. And, when our last underground resources are gone...they will sell us bottled water that we will pay a premium for ...those who can afford it.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
27. Remember when the government actually, you know, stood up for the people?
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 11:28 AM
Jul 2014

Now they enable the piratization of water and other natural resources to benefit the rich and powerful first and foremost.

From natural gas, tar sands and petroleum to gold, diamonds and uranium, the extraction industries are about the only thing more profitable than finance.

Look at what Barrick Gold, one of Poppy Bush's favorite charities, did to The Guardian and Greg Palast, for pointing that out:



Their crime? Telling the truth.



Poppy Strikes Gold

Sunday, April 27, 2008
Originally Posted July 9, 2003
By Greg Palast

EXCERPT...

And while the Bush family steadfastly believes that ex-felons should not have the right to vote for president, they have no objection to ex-cons putting presidents on their payroll. In 1996, despite pleas by U.S. church leaders, Poppy Bush gave several speeches (he charges $100,000 per talk) sponsored by organizations run by Rev. Sun Myung Moon, cult leader, tax cheat—and formerly the guest of the U.S. federal prison system. Some of the loot for the Republican effort in the 1997–2000 election cycles came from an outfit called Barrick Corporation.

The sum, while over $100,000, is comparatively small change for the GOP, yet it seemed quite a gesture for a corporation based in Canada. Technically, the funds came from those associated with the Canadian's U.S. unit, Barrick Gold Strike.

They could well afford it. [font color="green"]In the final days of the Bush (Senior) administration, the Interior Department made an extraordinary but little noticed change in procedures under the 1872 Mining Law, the gold rush–era act that permitted those whiskered small-time prospectors with their tin pans and mules to stake claims on their tiny plots. The department initiated an expedited procedure for mining companies that allowed Barrick to swiftly lay claim to the largest gold find in America. In the terminology of the law, Barrick could "perfect its patent" on the estimated $10 billion in ore—for which Barrick paid the U.S. Treasury a little under $10,000. Eureka![/font color]

Barrick, of course, had to put up cash for the initial property rights and the cost of digging out the booty (and the cost of donations, in smaller amounts, to support Nevada's Democratic senator, Harry Reid). Still, the shift in rules paid off big time: According to experts at the Mineral Policy Center of Washington, DC, Barrick saved—and the U.S. taxpayer lost—a cool billion or so. Upon taking office, Bill Clinton's new interior secretary, Bruce Babbitt, called Barrick's claim the "biggest gold heist since the days of Butch Cassidy." Nevertheless, because the company followed the fast-track process laid out for them under Bush, this corporate Goldfinger had Babbitt by the legal nuggets. Clinton had no choice but to give them the gold mine while the public got the shaft.

Barrick says it had no contact whatsoever with the president at the time of the rules change.(1) There was always a place in Barrick's heart for the older Bush—and a place on its payroll. In 1995, Barrick hired the former president as Honorary Senior Advisor to the Toronto company's International Advisory Board. Bush joined at the suggestion of former Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney, who, like Bush, had been ignominiously booted from office. I was a bit surprised that the president had signed on. When Bush was voted out of the White House, he vowed never to lobby or join a corporate board. The chairman of Barrick openly boasts that granting the title "Senior Advisor" was a sly maneuver to help Bush tiptoe around this promise.

CONTINUED...

http://www.gregpalast.com/poppy-strikes-gold/



Wow. So his flock of supporters in the media and elsewhere wanted it known: George Herbert Walker Bush did do something nice when he was President. It just happened to be that it was for a rich, powerful corporation.

The story continues, in which Mr. Palast details how said gold mining company employed fascist tactics to take over the mine, part of which involved bulldozing the miners homes and mines, some with the miners still inside. Let that, uh, sink in. For his trouble in reporting the story, Barrick threatened to sue.



The Truth Buried Alive

—By Greg Palast, From The Best Democracy Money Can Buy (Penguin/Plume, 2003)

Source: UTNE Reader
April 2003 Issue

EXCERPT...

Bad news. In July 2001, in the middle of trying to get out the word of the theft of the election in Florida, [font color="red"]I was about to become the guinea pig, the test case, for an attempt by a multinational corporation to suppress free speech in the USA using British libel law. I have a U.S.-based Web site for Americans who can’t otherwise read my columns or view my BBC television reports. The gold-mining company held my English newspaper liable for aggravated damages for my publishing the story in the USA. If I did not pull the Bush-Barrick story off my U.S. Web site, my paper would face a ruinously costly fight.(1)[/font color]

Panicked, the Guardian legal department begged me to delete not just the English versions of the story but also my Spanish translation, printed in Bolivia. (Caramba!)

The Goldfingers didn’t stop there. [font color="green"]Barrick’s lawyers told our papers that I personally would be sued in the United Kingdom over Web publications of my story in America, because the Web could be accessed in Britain. The success of this legal strategy would effectively annul the U.S. Bill of Rights.[/font color] Speak freely in the USA, but if your words are carried on a U.S. Web site, you may be sued in Britain. The Declaration of Independence would be null and void, at least for libel law. Suddenly, instead of the Internet becoming a means of spreading press freedom, the means to break through censorship, it would become the electronic highway for delivering repression.

And repression was winning. InterPress Services (IPS) of Washington, DC, sent a reporter to Tanzania with Lissu. They received a note from Barrick that said if the wire service ran a story that repeated the allegations, the company would sue. IPS did not run the story.

I was worried about Lissu. On July 19, 2001, a group of Tanzanian police interest lawyers wrote the nation’s president asking for an investigation–instead, Lissu’s law partner in Dar es Salaam was arrested. The police were hunting for Lissu. They broke into his home and office and turned them upside down looking for the names of Lissu’s sources, his whereabouts and the evidence he gathered on the mine site clearance. This was more than a legal skirmish. Over the next months, demonstrations by vicims’ families were broken up by police thugs. A member of Parliament joining protesters was beaten and hospitalized. I had to raise cash quick to get Lissu out, and with him, his copies of police files with more evidence of the killings. I called Maude Barlow, the “Ralph Nader of Canada”, head of the Council of Canadians. Without hesitation, she teamed up with Friends of the Earth in Holland, raised funds and prepared a press conference–and in August tipped the story to the Globe & Mail, Canada’s national paper.

CONTINUED...

http://www.mapcruzin.com/palast-2.htm



So. Greg Palast did something very bad from the BFEE perspective: He told the truth, including the bits about the buried alive gold miners, as it happens. So, the Big Corporation sued and sued and sued. With their deep pockets, they can buy justice, judges, prime ministers, presidents and whoever and whatever else they need to turn a buck.

Gee. It's getting harder and harder for "a man without a corporation" to be heard these days. One day soon, no one will wonder why so few people remember democracy, let alone the republic.


 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
29. Bingo... It's all about the benjamins, short term profits.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 11:49 AM
Jul 2014

What I wrote about ignorance above applies to so many aspects of the energy picture that I can't even begin to explain.

To be sure, Obama has been the best on energy since Carter, no way to refute that, but the black man in the white house is facing incredible opposition.

I shouldn't have to list his accomplishments so I'll just say that natgas is growing, economies are dependent upon it, he can't unilaterally shut down fracking, but I wish someone would begin to prohibit energy exports and that more people would support high speed rail, further funding support for solar and wind, electric vehicles, and conservation.

I probably shouldn't even bother trying to discuss the topic with people who don't that hydrogen isn't an energy source, or who think that energy mix is a snack food.

I stand by my comment, people are ignorant, I'm glad that you're onto the bottom line, as it were.

Water is the next oil-- I've been saying that for at least 10 years...

dammit.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
31. Revolving Door: Heather Zichal, Former Obama Energy Aide, Named to Board of Fracked Gas Exports Co.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 12:03 PM
Jul 2014

(This doesn't help, either.... Obama could have done more but, he prefers to stay uninvolved and let the people he appoints decide...Wall Street Crime, Energy, Foreign Policy, Fracking...etc. We end up with "Foxes Guarding the Hen House" because of this. Even in appointments where he doesn't need Republican Congressional approval--business interests are his first choice)


Heather Zichal, Former Obama Energy Aide, Named to Board of Fracked Gas Exports Giant Cheniere

Heather Zichal, former Obama White House Deputy Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change, may soon walk out of the government-industry revolving door to become a member of the board of directors for fracked gas exports giant Cheniere, who nominated her to serve on the board.

?itok=DYJnGODR

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Zichal was best known to many as the main mediator between the oil and gas industry and the White House during her time working for the Obama administration. In fact, Cheniere cites that experience as the rationale for nominating her to serve on the board.


Similar to the interagency working group created by the April 13, 2012, Executive Order, Zichal also oversaw the Bakken Federal Executives Group, which was created through the signing of Executive Order 13604 on March 22, 2012. That order was part of the same package that called for expedited building of the southern leg of the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline.

Executive Order 13604 created an interagency steering committee with a goal “to significantly reduce the aggregate time required to make federal permitting and review decisions on infrastructure projects while improving outcomes for communities and the environment.”

Zichal was also instrumental in legalizing the American Legislative Exchange Council's (ALEC) approach for fracking chemical fluid disclosure on U.S. public lands, overseen by the U.S. Department of Interior's Bureau of Land Management.

“Zichal met more than 20 times in 2012 with industry groups and company executives lobbying on the proposed rule,” reported EnergyWire. “Among them were the American Petroleum Institute (API) and the Independent Petroleum Association of America (IPAA), along with BP America Inc., Devon Energy Corp. and Exxon Mobil Corp.”


Beyond overseeing streamlined permitting for fracking sites on both public and private lands, Zichal also oversaw the White House file for the Pavillion, Wyo., fracking groundwater contamination study.

Conducted by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), many believe the White House — counseled by Zichal — made a political calculus to cancel the ongoing investigation, the first of three major major studies on the subject shutdown by the EPA.


Deeply Embedded

The Zichal nomination is taking place alongside the deployment of the Obama Administration regulating coal-fired power plants through the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. The rule is a de facto endorsement of fracking and gas-fired power plants as part of the “all of the above” energy policy.

As the Zichal case makes clear with regards to climate change-causing fracked gas, LNG exports flow through the revolving door in Washington, DC, and beyond.


“The fact that one of Obama's top climate advisors is now helping expand fossil fuel use raises questions about how deeply embedded oil and gas industry interests are in the administration,” Jesse Coleman, a researcher for Greenpeace USA told DeSmogBlog.

Photo Credit: Heather Zichal speaks to the American Petroleum Institute in May 2012 | YouTube Screenshot

MORE....long article at:

http://desmogblog.com/2014/06/20/heather-zichal-former-obama-energy-aide-named-board-member-lng-exports-giant-cheniere

 

Joe Turner

(930 posts)
11. I guess when you push for job exporting trade deals
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:02 AM
Jul 2014

you are left with primitive natural resource stripping for jobs.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
14. fracking is obsolete
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:20 AM
Jul 2014

Solar Hydrogen: Fuel of the Future. A book by by Mario Pagliaro and Athanasios G Konstandopoulos
http://www.amazon.com/Solar-Hydrogen-Future-Mario-Pagliaro/dp/1849731950/

Green Hydrogen facility opens at Berlin airport, with first refueling of a fuel cell Electric Vehicle. "Initially the electricity required will be provided by a nearby wind park."
http://www.renewableenergyfocus.com/view/38624/green-hydrogen-facility-opens-at-berlin-airport-with-first-refueling-of-fuel-cell-vehicle/

Top Gear's James May reviews a Honda Hydrogen Clarity in 2008
http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/honda-clarity

Building a hydrogen refueling station in 48 hours (time-lapse)



Twenty Hydrogen Myths by noted environmentalist Amory Lovins
http://www.rmi.org/Knowledge-Center/Library/E03-05_TwentyHydrogenMyths

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
20. We need a roadmap...
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 05:45 AM
Jul 2014

... and a President to do the cartography. A road map with a timetable and directions to a place where energy production no longer takes lives. Where there are no fracking induced earthquakes or sinkholes, where the air and water is not poisoned with toxic chemicals, where there are no bursting pipelines of disgusting tar-sands oil spilling onto the ground and into our neighborhoods and waterways. A place where scientists and electrical engineers have worked together to discover new ways to produce the non-polluting energy that we need to live our active modern lives. A place where there are no more nefarious plans being made behind the backs of the American public. I said a road map. A goal. Not a magic wand.

Agony

(2,605 posts)
32. No problem, get your town to ban it. The Appeals Court agrees that you can.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 12:03 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/06/new_york_court_of_appeals_fracking_ban_middlefield_dryden.html

We don't need to depend on corrupt politicians to control our own destiny all of the time.

This is one of those times.
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
37. True. It looks like the southern Hudson counties are banning it.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 12:14 PM
Jul 2014

They don't want the NYC watershed polluted.

Agony

(2,605 posts)
34. His advisors forgot to tell him that natgas is likely no better than coal wrt global warming..
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 12:09 PM
Jul 2014

I am sure he will change his mind once he finds out.

http://www.eeb.cornell.edu/howarth/energy_and_environment.php

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