Joe Lieberman: Still A Troll

[eridani]

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/07/joe-lieberman-still-troll?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The guy who was supposedly our ideological ally on everything but Iraq said this yesterday on a wingnut television show:

The nation is blessed to have the legal wisdom of the U.S. Supreme Court in the wake of the 13 rulings it has made against the Obama administration in the past 18 months, former Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut tells Newsmax TV.

"It's unusual or maybe even unprecedented to have that many decisions," Lieberman said Thursday on "The Steve Malzberg Show."

"The good thing to say for those who are worried is that we do have a Supreme Court ... and the vision of the founders to exercise nonpolitical authority to keep our government within the bounds of the Constitution."

Lieberman adds that while not perfect, it works quite well in keeping the White House in check.

"It's not a perfect system but when you've got an ideologically split court and 13 cases saying 9-0 the
or the administration exceeded its constitutional authority, that says something very powerful," Lieberman said.

"It should be reassuring to the American people about protecting their rights."

[Rex]

1. Wow, Soreloserman sounds a little hostile toward the oval office.

Almost like he has a grudge.

[hrmjustin]

2. The mistake from Connecticut!

[GP6971]

3. He's such an ass

Had the democrats selected another running mate, I think the end result might have been different. Just my opinion.......at the time I still voted in CT and couldn't stand the jerk. Voted against him every time (but not for a republican).

[Cha]

5. Never ever ever should have chosen that santimonious pos.

[GP6971]

11. Your description of him

is way too kind. I broke with my wife's family when they voted for him when he ran as an independent......it was like, what are you f#%king kidding me????? The senator from Israel may be a little over the top, but he sure didn't represent the people of CT.

[Cha]

4. Yeah, the idiot aka joementum lieberman was too entrenched to ever recover.. the only way

for him was further in the depths of depravity. Fuckin' idiot.

[merrily]

6. Thirteen unanimous decisions saying Obama exceeded his

Constitutional authority. Is that right? The Constitutional law prof?

If so, four of those votes are by Justices nominated by Democrats, of which two come from Justices nominated by Obama himself.

Yeah, Lieberman's a troll--and a few other choice words, but geez. Thirteen 9-0 decisions.

I'm going to start googling.

[politicaljunkie41910]

13. As usual, the troll got it wrong or intentionally meant to mislead the public.

"The "9-0 decision last week was the 13th time the Supreme Court voted 9-0 that the president had exceeded his constitutional authority."
Bob Goodlatte on Sunday, June 29th, 2014 in comments on "Fox News Sunday ..."


Not surprising that Fox News is spreading this as part of their usual disinformation campaign.

Goodlatte isn’t the only person to make this argument. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, made a similar claim in a press release last week and it was also the subject of a column in the National Review, a conservative news website.

A spokeswoman for Goodlatte gave us a list of the 13 cases he referenced. We reviewed the evidence his office offered enlisted the help of a few experts to help us parse through the legalese.

Goodlatte’s assertion doesn’t seem to hold water. Susan Bloch, a constitutional law professor at Georgetown University, said the NLRB case is very different than the rest of the cases on the list, in that the court actually was ruling on a separations of power issue and a presidential overreach.

"That’s a fair case of the president’s use of executive authority getting rejected," she said.

But the rest of the claim? "It’s a total overstatement," Bloch said.

Why?

For starters, in eight of the cases, the alleged overreach occurred under President George W. Bush, as did the court cases that challenged the administration (United States vs. Jones, Sackett vs. EPA, Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church & School vs. EEOC, Gabelli vs. SEC, Arkansas Fish & Game Commission v. United States, PPL Corp. vs. Commissioner of Internal Revenue, Horne vs. USDA, and Bond vs. United States). Bush’s Justice Department handled the initial court proceedings in most instances.

Obama’s Justice Department in many of the cases handled the appellate process and ultimately defended the actions to the Supreme Court. But that’s commonplace, experts we spoke with said.

Goodlatte spokeswoman Jessica Collins contended that doesn't make the chairman's statement untrue. "Regardless of who started the policies that were overturned by the courts unanimously during the Obama administration, President Obama decided to continue those policies which were struck down," she said.

But that isn't really what Goodlatte claimed. He said Obama "exceeded his presidential authority," not that Obama defended executive overreach.

Additionally, in many of the cases, executive overreach wasn’t really even at issue. For example, in United States vs. Jones, the court was ruling on whether the FBI had the power to use a GPS to track a suspect and gather evidence.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jun/29/bob-goodlatte/gop-leader-supreme-court-has-ruled-13-times-obama-/

[merrily]

15. Thanks. Eight of them occurred under Bush and Joe blamed Obama?

Not only is he not a Democrat, and not an Indie, he's not even an honest Republican. (There must be some honest Republicans. Their names just don't happen to leap to mind.)

I haven't googled yet because I got diverted to something other than DU issues. But this is good info, thanks. I will look into it further at some point, but not tonight.

[merrily]

19. Another debunker of Goodlatte: factcheck.org. Here's the link:

http://www.factcheck.org/2014/07/obama-and-executive-overreach/

[Enthusiast]

23. Plus one a whole bunch.

[RKP5637]

7. Lieberman AKA Damn Fool n/t

[MagickMuffin]

8. This quote says a lot about our old pal Joey

"The good thing to say for those who are worried is that we do have a Supreme Court ... and the vision of the founders to exercise nonpolitical authority to keep our government within the bounds of the Constitution."

Unfortunately, he has really hit rock bottom if he believes the current SC doesn't have nonpolitical beliefs. As they have proved time and time again that they are very active in their political beliefs and rule in favor of their ideologies along with their parties agendas.

[merrily]

16. He hit rock bottom when he campaigned for McCain Palin. Now,

he's subterranean.

[Brigid]

9. Hey Lieberman!

I am a woman. The Gang of Five on the Supreme Court is NOT -- I repeat NOT -- protecting my rights!

[shenmue]

10. What a shame on the people of CT

Good Lord, he's dull.

[merrily]

17. In fairness, CT Dems did dump him.

[shenmue]

22. True

[RainDog]

12. Lieberman is selective in his statements

Here are the cases. Look at how many of them started before 2008.

United States v. Jones (2005)
Sackett v. EPA (2007)
Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church & School v. EEOC (2005)

Gabelli v. SEC (1999-2002)
Arkansas Fish & Games v. United States (1993-2000)
PPK Corp. v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue (1984-1996, and it's PPL, not PPK)
Horne v. USDA (2002)

Sekhar v. United States (2009)
Burrage v. United States (2010, concerns a law passed in 1970)
Bond v. United States (2006-2007, concerning a law passed in 1998)

United States v. Wurie (This is the cell phone search issue. The incident in question happened in 2007)
Riley v. California (2009, also concerns the cell phone search issue)
NLRB v. Noel Canning (2012, the recess appointment issue)

I agree the executive wants too much power to snoop on people - and that's coming from the federal agencies that demand it. They exist no matter which party holds power - they have too much power no matter which party wins the office of the presidency.

But Lieberman's selective quoting of the facts - most of these began before the Obama Administration - just demonstrates what a repulsive little scum sucking toady Joe is. No one wanted you for vp, Joe, not even people who vote for Democrats. But you were trolling American Democrats back then, too, and Democrats who aren't part of the beltway knew it and despised you. You're one of those pols I will not miss when he's gone.

[4now]

14. I still cannot believe that Gore selected him as running mate

I still shiver when I think about him being a heartbeat away from the Presidency and put there by Democrats.

[merrily]

18. They were DLC/New Democrat buddies.

[COLGATE4]

20. Lieberman is, and always has been, a schmuck. nt

[merrily]

21. Rec for visibility.

[HughBeaumont]

24. Lieberturd tops my list of "Who Played the Biggest Role in The Failure Fuhrer's Ascendancy".

My list would be (in order) . . .

Joe Lieberturd
Katherine Harris
Sandra Day O'Connor
Jeb Bewsh
John Prescott Ellis
Fox News
Jack Welch
Candidate Al Gore

. . . . and somewhere well below them would be Ralph Nader.

[Zambero]

25. The same SCOTUS that denied him the vice presidency in 2000

How reassuring was that one Joe? In retrospect, Lieberman is looking more and more like the Democrats' proto-Palin, best forgotten and not to be repeated.

[pansypoo53219]

26. lieberfuckenputz. fux gnewz favorite jew.