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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 06:46 PM Jul 2014

Hobby Lobby. Is it part of a broader strategy to impose the libertarian philosopny on the US?

Debate this topic:

Is Hobby Lobby just another step in a libertarian strategy to use the conservative Supreme Court to bypass Congress and recreate our country into a libertarian dystopia?

Think of Brown v. Board of Education or Miranda, two well known instances in which the Supreme Court at a time of stalemate on the issues in the legislature furthered justice and due process.

Hobby Lobby is not a case in which very much was really at stake. Hobby Lobby probably gambled more on lawyers' fees than they would have paid for the birth control for their employees per year. And the bad publicity is another cost. Certainly more than 60% of American women including women who buy from Hobby Lobby use birth control. It wasn't about money for Hobby Lobby. But we know it wasn't really about religious conviction or moral opposition to birth control either. Because they don't require China or their Chinese suppliers to deny birth control and abortion to their employees. It's that simple.

As for the women who might have health care plans that do not provide birth control, Planned Parenthood will continue to provide low income women with access to birth control according to their ability to pay.


The big question is not how the Supreme Court decided the case but why the Justices took it up.
The Supreme Court does not review every case that is submitted to it. So why Hobby Lobby? Not really a very important case.

I don't think it was the result of overzealous morality on the part of the Catholic, conservative, Republican-appointed five on the Court.

Now I know what I am about to say will sound like a conspiracy theory to some. But let's think about it, pro and con.

I suggest that this decision is part of a strategy serving conservatives like the Koch Brothers who want to change our government and our country to oligarchic libertarianism. They know most voters won't go for that so they have devised another method to achieve their goal.

While we Democrats moan and groan about male privilege, white privilege, rights of immigrants who did not bother to apply for visas, etc., Republican libertarians are taking over the country with a strategy worthy of the kinds of minds that study markets and costs and all the details while still keeping in mind the big picture.

Do you think I am right about the Republican/libertarian strategy?

What should we do about it?

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msongs

(67,395 posts)
1. say republican and quit saying libertarian. all these changes are republican philosophy so let
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 06:49 PM
Jul 2014

the repubs own it properly

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. Lots of people who agree with Democrats on most issues vote Republican.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 06:53 PM
Jul 2014

The libertarians are a group within the Republican Party.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
4. Hobby Lobby is on the road to replacing Secular law with extreme rightwing "Biblical law"
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 07:31 PM
Jul 2014
Sharia law, bay-bee!!
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
5. This is not a libertarian move, but a Religious Right one.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 07:39 PM
Jul 2014

A consistent libertarian wouldn't countenance government interfering in a woman's health issues.

This is one of the fun things about Republicans: They have all kinds of conservatives, and they like to fight each other.

ancianita

(36,030 posts)
6. Seems like a strategy to impose on women, at the very least, no matter their income or politics.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 07:42 PM
Jul 2014

I won't discount an overzealous morality behind the SCOTUS decision, either, since all five men are Catholic and DID, in fact meet with the US conference of Catholic bishops who later did file an amicus brief.

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