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FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 11:12 AM Jul 2014

Countries that Dump their "Unwanted Children" on the US Border

From the Child labor in the Sweat-shops of New York in the early 1800s to the Border Children of 2014 - My how we've changed - NOT !!!

From Flyers being handed out in the streets, to dis-information being taught in their schools. South of the border countries are attempting to forsake their moral responsibilities to care for and educated their children - in the name of "Profit"

These same countries are increasingly exporting goods to Western Countries and around the world. Because of Government corruption and the "Stranglehold" placed on it by the Wealthy Ruling Elite, and Multi-National Corporations in those countries, rather then educate and care for those children funded through taxation, they choose to forsake their responsibility altogether. Through a campaign of propaganda designed to make the parents believe the child's only chance in life is to cross the border illegally into the United States.

Where obviously for a lack of proper English speaking skills and a proper education the child will only grow up disadvantaged and doomed to a life of minimal paying jobs at best.

That's not treating the problem - that's exploiting those children twice


The Parent in the Room needs to take action


Goods from these countries needs to be abandoned on the docks not allowed to be processed into this country. The only way to grab the attention of the Corrupt Government, the Wealthy Elite, and Multi-National Corporations causing this crises is to speak to them in a language they can understand. And by effecting their profits - only then do these children have a chance.


If anyone here thinks that this is anything less then an organized effort to Dump these children on the US - then you really need to get in touch with reality.

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Countries that Dump their "Unwanted Children" on the US Border (Original Post) FreakinDJ Jul 2014 OP
+1000 This is a fact that many people (even here) do not want... clarice Jul 2014 #1
Oh Geez - Child-Labor in the Sweat-Shops of New York wasn't a Bad Thing FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #2
It was a TERRIBLE thing !!!!!! nt clarice Jul 2014 #3
Seriously dude ... GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #4
So you advocate the contined exploitation of children FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Jul 2014 #8
Going South? 4Q2u2 Jul 2014 #6
You do realize Rick Perry made the same argument you made in the last part? alp227 Jul 2014 #7
Have you EVER talked to an illegal immigrant FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #9
So Perry was right? nt alp227 Jul 2014 #11
I never heard or read what Perry said FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #13
Exploitation Paul Edward Snyder Jul 2014 #10
Notice I never suggested or implied sending them back FreakinDJ Jul 2014 #12
 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
1. +1000 This is a fact that many people (even here) do not want...
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 11:19 AM
Jul 2014

to even THINK about, never mind debate.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
2. Oh Geez - Child-Labor in the Sweat-Shops of New York wasn't a Bad Thing
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 11:23 AM
Jul 2014

Only 2 of the 5 children in my family died when they ran away from the "Sweat-Shop OWNED Orphanage"

Ya - back than most of the orphanages in New York City were a front for the sweat shops. Bought and paid for

GeorgeGist

(25,317 posts)
4. Seriously dude ...
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 11:59 AM
Jul 2014

this is more likely a RW scam, underwritten by Koch Industries, to undermine the 'N-word in the White House'.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
5. So you advocate the contined exploitation of children
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 12:15 PM
Jul 2014

So other then throwing money at a "Temorary Fix" you got anything other then "Its a Rightwing Plot"

Where is the adult in the room here

Response to FreakinDJ (Reply #5)

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
6. Going South?
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 12:59 PM
Jul 2014

I wonder how many children are heading south? Costa Rica is a modern safe and vibrant country with good health care, economy, and education. The language barrier would be minimal.
Panama is not idillic but is much better than where the children are coming from.

This is also the other side of the double edge. If we have a direct hand in shaping their countries then you have to take the responsibilties for all of our actions. If they want us out, then it needs to be out 100% and they have to take the responsibilities.
It seems to have worked pretty good for many countries.

Found one of my answers:

"Notably, these children are not just arriving to the U.S. in search of protection. UNHCR documented an increase of 432 percent in asylum requests in the neighboring countries of Belize, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Panama, and Mexico. Despite being one of the poorest countries in Latin America, Nicaragua alone saw an increase in asylum requests of 240 percent between 2012 and 2013."

alp227

(32,015 posts)
7. You do realize Rick Perry made the same argument you made in the last part?
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 01:04 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/06/abc-cuts-off-rick-perrys-conspiracy-rant-about-obama-immigrants-drones-and-hurricanes/

“We either have an incredibly inept administration, or they’re in on this somehow or another,” Perry opined. “I mean I hate to be conspiratorial, but I mean how do you move that many people from Central America across Mexico and then into the United States without there being a fairly coordinated effort?”
 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
9. Have you EVER talked to an illegal immigrant
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 01:27 PM
Jul 2014

Apparently Not

They'll tell you - from teachers in classrooms to flyers in the streets

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
13. I never heard or read what Perry said
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jul 2014

Other what you posted

And your Cyber-sluthing skills could use some fine tunning as you might notice in my profile I have been a member here and a Democratic activist much longer then yourself

I prefer to THINK before I offer a thoroughly uninformed opinion

 
10. Exploitation
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jul 2014

Having recognized Corporations as people and money as speech, it does seem logical that Governments be given that status also and exploitation an exercise in free speech.

I am not sure how governments profit from exporting their children to the United States. Perhaps you could clarify that for me. On the contrary, I would guess the governments are somewhat embarrassed by the exposure of their inept governance so serious that hordes of children are fleeing their county.

Drug cartels might profit, but I’m not quite sure I understand how. Surely they realize that such a rapid and large influx of refugees would force the United States to pretty much shut down the border making it more difficult for them to do business.

If a country is so badly governed or so poor it cannot support its children and keep them safe (in fairness I probably should point out that our putting guns in the hands of the psychologically impaired is not keeping our children safe either), further impoverishing that government doesn't seem like a very good solution. Our country is seen world-wide as extraordinarily prosperous and unbelievably generous. Even in a moderately affluent country parents surely see better opportunities for their children here. In countries pretty much overwhelmed by drug wars, indiscriminate killing, and a repressive (often by necessity) government, sending their children into the unknown with even a small chance of reaching such a promising land must be overwhelming.

The choice with which we are faced determines our character. To send these children back is heartless, but to allow them to stay would encourage more and more refugees until our resources would be strained to the breaking point. We can’t shelter everyone in the world, be they the very young or the very poor or (less emotionally acceptable) those vaguely dissatisfied with their government or their way of life. Nor do we resolve the problem by demonizing their governments or its citizens.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
12. Notice I never suggested or implied sending them back
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 02:15 PM
Jul 2014

I did state the Lack of funding to care for children is a direct result of a corrupt Government reluctent to Tax the Wealthy Elite and Multi-National Corporations conducting business within its borders

Much the same problem we are having in this country with our public schools

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