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global1

(25,215 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:22 AM Jul 2014

Really - Why Won't President Obama Visit The Border And See The Situation First Hand?.....

I know he says that he doesn't just want a photo op - but couldn't he make it more than a photo op and really shame Congress into doing something about this problem first and then immigration as a whole - second.

He has the bully pulpit - why doesn't he use it. What is he afraid the Repubs & MSM will do if he actually visits the border?

I really don't know if he thinks he's dealing from a position of strength on this matter or what?

Any comments about this?

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Really - Why Won't President Obama Visit The Border And See The Situation First Hand?..... (Original Post) global1 Jul 2014 OP
maybe this? tk2kewl Jul 2014 #1
How can that crazy get him in TX, but not CO? joeglow3 Jul 2014 #4
The security dispositions might be just mylye2222 Jul 2014 #2
Stop letting the M$M decide what is needed treestar Jul 2014 #3
CNN and Fox do not get to decide the when or the why, this is all a media tripe. Do not buy into the Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #13
exactly what would he do? onethatcares Jul 2014 #5
It doesn't matter if he does or does not, because... Mike Nelson Jul 2014 #6
This. If he did go, they would report it as if he had gone to issue personal invitations for people Arkansas Granny Jul 2014 #10
OBAMA STAGES BORDER PHOTO-OP TO DISTRACT FROM BENGHAZI!!! JaneyVee Jul 2014 #12
Yep, you know it, the media would be all over it as a political ploy....I detest the MSM...CNN as Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #14
Exactly treestar Jul 2014 #21
He knows what is happening. oldandhappy Jul 2014 #7
What's he going to see? atreides1 Jul 2014 #8
It's a political trap to make him take blame for the problem, as Repubs TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #9
+1 million Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #27
Now instead of a photo op he has a sound bite forthemiddle Jul 2014 #11
Nice twisting of words. President Obama never said he never does photo ops, nice try. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #15
Here since 2001? HangOnKids Jul 2014 #22
You're funny. TBF Jul 2014 #24
The whole "border visit" brouhaha is manufactured by the right wing and it's driving me nuts. Vinca Jul 2014 #16
Please Enlighten Me - What Is The Law In 2008 That Bush Signed?s...... global1 Jul 2014 #17
I've heard a lot about it. Control-Z Jul 2014 #18
It's the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 herding cats Jul 2014 #19
Please Proceed. GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #20
What would you like him to do? TBF Jul 2014 #23
You mean so he can use all the local police for traffic control BainsBane Jul 2014 #25
yeah, why WON'T he go face a crowd of armed lunatics that think he's LadyHawkAZ Jul 2014 #26

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. Stop letting the M$M decide what is needed
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:25 AM
Jul 2014

or not. If he went there, they would be having a problem with that.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. CNN and Fox do not get to decide the when or the why, this is all a media tripe. Do not buy into the
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jul 2014

propaganda, give your head a shake and stand back from the media bombing.

onethatcares

(16,160 posts)
5. exactly what would he do?
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:32 AM
Jul 2014

shake the hand of a few border agents, look out over the river, speechify and then go back to D.C.

It's not like he's going to see hordes of Honduran children swimming accross the Rio.

If he did that the pukes would be complaining about the money he spent for a photo op. We both know that.

trying to please the repukelican base is like rolling a shitball up Pikes Peak.

Mike Nelson

(9,940 posts)
6. It doesn't matter if he does or does not, because...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:33 AM
Jul 2014

...the Conservative Media will report either decision negatively. He probably figured this was the better option.

Arkansas Granny

(31,504 posts)
10. This. If he did go, they would report it as if he had gone to issue personal invitations for people
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:49 AM
Jul 2014

to cross the border.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
14. Yep, you know it, the media would be all over it as a political ploy....I detest the MSM...CNN as
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jul 2014

much as Fox, all the rest are close behind.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
7. He knows what is happening.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:33 AM
Jul 2014

I am more interested in all of us turning out to support the President and the Border Patrol people as they struggle with the processing situation. I live an hour south of Murrietta. That is ugly. I want all of us to turn out in these instances and support the people caught in this tangle. I am grateful to San Diego people who turned out, gave supplies, stood for sanity. We will get thru this. It takes times. TV has led us to think everything can be solved in half an hour! Not so. First we have to get this Congress into retirement. And then and then. Step by step.

atreides1

(16,062 posts)
8. What's he going to see?
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:38 AM
Jul 2014

Miles of empty desert...maybe a coyote(four legged) or two?

And so he goes to the border and sits out in the middle of nowhere...I can see the Republicans using all that stock film and photos in their political ads...to discredit him and the Democrats for doing nothing!


TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
9. It's a political trap to make him take blame for the problem, as Repubs
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:41 AM
Jul 2014

refuse to deal with immigration in Congress, and it also will make the issue worse if he meets with these immigrants, since they're in the act of DOING WHAT WE DON'T WANT THEM TO DO--do we want to encourage more of this? Obama needs to ignore the hounding and pressure--I'll be disappointed if he gives in. His presence would do nothing but harm. His political instincts are right on this issue. It's not in any way similar to visiting a disaster site to give support to the victims.

forthemiddle

(1,375 posts)
11. Now instead of a photo op he has a sound bite
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:53 AM
Jul 2014

And I don't think it is going to be a good one.
As he says he doesn't do photo ops, the networks are going to show the mirage of photo ops he has been doing. You know the late night comedians will run away with this.
It is probably a good thing that Saturday Night Live is no longer the power house it used to be (is it still on?) Because we could almost write the skit right now.
I hope I'm wrong.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
15. Nice twisting of words. President Obama never said he never does photo ops, nice try.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:20 PM
Jul 2014

Propaganda is easy because you can just make stuff up and run with it.

Vinca

(50,233 posts)
16. The whole "border visit" brouhaha is manufactured by the right wing and it's driving me nuts.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:32 PM
Jul 2014

If the POTUS decides to go there, enormous resources will be taken away from the current problem in order to accommodate his safety, his entourage and the whole spectacle that is a presidential visit. Chances are, he'd get to the border and look at a river with nothing going on. If he visits any of the places kids are being held, what is the purpose? What can he accomplish? He can pat them on the head and say something nice and hand them a candy bar, but that's about it. Don't fall for the smear machine baloney. The fact is, the border enforcement is working or all these people wouldn't be caught. Secondly, they are only being detained because of a 2008 Bush-signed law the same Republicans now carping voted in favor of.

global1

(25,215 posts)
17. Please Enlighten Me - What Is The Law In 2008 That Bush Signed?s......
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jul 2014

Why haven't we heard more about that?

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
18. I've heard a lot about it.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jul 2014

It is regarding the welfare, treatment and processing of unaccompanied children.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
19. It's the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 01:32 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.state.gov/j/tip/laws/113178.htm

Originally pushed by a bipartisan coalition of lawmakers as well as by evangelical groups to combat sex trafficking, the bill gave substantial new protections to children entering the country alone who were not from Mexico or Canada by prohibiting them from being quickly sent back to their country of origin.

Instead, it required that they be given an opportunity to appear at an immigration hearing and consult with an advocate, and it recommended that they have access to counsel. It also required that they be turned over to the care of the Department of Health and Human Services, and the agency was directed to place the minor “in the least restrictive setting that is in the best interest of the child” and to explore reuniting those children with family members.

The Obama administration says the law is partly responsible for tying its hands in dealing with the current influx of children. Officials have suggested that the White House might seek flexibility in the law’s requirements when it asks Congress to provide emergency funds to contend with the latest immigration crisis, a request that could come as early as Tuesday. About 52,000 minors without their parents have been caught at the Southwest border since October.

“Giving the secretary of homeland security additional authority and discretion that he can use to confront that situation more efficiently, making sure that we are acknowledging the humanitarian issues that are at stake while also enforcing the law, is a priority,” Josh Earnest, the White House press secretary, said Monday. “It’s the priority of this administration, and if you listen to the public comments of Democrats and Republicans, it sounds like it’s a bipartisan priority.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/08/us/immigrant-surge-rooted-in-law-to-curb-child-trafficking.html?_r=0

BainsBane

(53,010 posts)
25. You mean so he can use all the local police for traffic control
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:42 PM
Jul 2014

and back up the area for the day?


This is the type of thing I'd expect to hear from a cable news pundit.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
26. yeah, why WON'T he go face a crowd of armed lunatics that think he's
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:29 PM
Jul 2014

the Muslim Antichrist, to get his picture taken looking at an empty stretch of border and give a speech about a problem that his presence there will do absolutely nothing to fix?

The bastard!

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