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pa28

(6,145 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:20 PM Jul 2014

U.S. compromises on labor rights in latest round of TPP negotiation.

From the USTR's TPP web site:

"Ensuring respect for worker rights is a core value. That is why in TPP the United States is seeking to build on the strong labor provisions in the most recent U.S. trade agreements by seeking enforceable rules that protect the rights of freedom of association and collective bargaining; discourage trade in goods produced by forced labor, including forced child labor; and establish mechanisms to monitor and address labor concerns."

Unfortunately during this week's Ottawa round of negotiation those tough worker protections designed to "level the playing field" for American workers seem to be evaporating. Instead, violations will result in "discussions to seek improvements".

From The Japan News

Developed countries were pushing for labor rights protection and improved working conditions, while emerging economies were intent on prioritizing economic growth. But in the latest round of talks, the opposing sides compromised and agreed to a rule that the nations involved will settle suspected violations by holding discussions to seek improvements, instead of immediately imposing sanctions.


http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0001414471
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U.S. compromises on labor rights in latest round of TPP negotiation. (Original Post) pa28 Jul 2014 OP
Protesters cry foul at secrecy around (TPP) talks leftstreet Jul 2014 #1
Those are some great signs. Hard to ignore and spelled correctly. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #22
Oh, you nervous nellies! gratuitous Jul 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #3
Yep, I'm sure. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #7
... Enthusiast Jul 2014 #18
Pass it now, fix it later! obxhead Jul 2014 #10
That's been the meme and we always fell for it Populist_Prole Jul 2014 #17
or as Thom Hartmann call it the Southern Hemisphere Asian Free Trade Agreement NightWatcher Jul 2014 #4
"Oh, no! We'd really love the little people to have rights, but we just can't swing it." MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #5
But of course. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #6
Give me everything I've asked for and more, IDemo Jul 2014 #8
"Thanks, Obama" nt msongs Jul 2014 #9
More Feudalism Octafish Jul 2014 #11
Please Dems don't let this POS pass! n/t betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #12
Uh....quelle surprise... senseandsensibility Jul 2014 #13
No excuse for this. Representative government, my ass. nt woo me with science Jul 2014 #14
It's corporations negotiating in secret to disable the laws we've worked for. pa28 Jul 2014 #15
This is how you do multi-state treaties. joshcryer Jul 2014 #16
Yes. That is the reason for the secrecy. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #21
The full treaty must pass a vote in the Congress. joshcryer Jul 2014 #23
+1 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #20
+1 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #19
TPP will be teh awesome! KG Jul 2014 #24

leftstreet

(36,101 posts)
1. Protesters cry foul at secrecy around (TPP) talks
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:26 PM
Jul 2014
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Protesters gathered outside the Delta Hotel in Ottawa Thursday morning where trade talks are underway among Trans-Pacific Partnership members.

Protesters held signs that said, “secret deal being negotiated here” and “stop the TPP,” while the Raging Grannies, an Ottawa-based satirical singing group, performed outside the hotel.

Canada is one of 12 countries involved in the talks, with meetings held behind closed doors.


The Council of Canadians told the Citizen it believes there is too much secrecy around the talks, which were initially planned for Vancouver but moved to Ottawa at the last minute.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/protesters-cry-foul-at-secrecy-surrounding-trans-pacific-partnership-talks


Hope you don't mind my sticking this here
DURec

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Oh, you nervous nellies!
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:35 PM
Jul 2014

We'll have plenty of labor and environmental protections in the TPP! They'll practically be coming out of your ears. We just have to proceed carefully in deference to our other partners, just like we did with NAFTA. We'll have those "side agreements" on labor and the environment worked out for NAFTA real soon (it's only been about 20 years, what's your hurry), then we'll get cracking on the TPP, but we have to ratify it first.

Golly, why are you all so suspicious?

Response to gratuitous (Reply #2)

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
7. Yep, I'm sure.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:38 PM
Jul 2014

She helped craft it. Nothing to see here. BTW, did I mention she's already received over $7 million from Goldman-Sachs?

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
10. Pass it now, fix it later!
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jul 2014

How quick the sheeple run to defend the party, regardless of the policy.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
17. That's been the meme and we always fell for it
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:48 AM
Jul 2014

Damned technocrats. Look good on paper: Rotten in reality.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. or as Thom Hartmann call it the Southern Hemisphere Asian Free Trade Agreement
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jul 2014

SHAFTA is more fitting

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
5. "Oh, no! We'd really love the little people to have rights, but we just can't swing it."
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:15 PM
Jul 2014

"But once it's law, we can work on improving it. Honest."

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. But of course.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:35 PM
Jul 2014

Everyone saw this coming, except for the corporate state apologist-deniers. We can say goodbye to many enviromental protections, too. We don't need to see what's in it (when it will be too late to do anything )... we know by who's crafting the agreement that its a steaming load of crap. Wall St paid Obama well, and he aims to deliver.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
16. This is how you do multi-state treaties.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:05 AM
Jul 2014

Some partners will get a better deal than others. If it was public it wouldn't pass muster.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
23. The full treaty must pass a vote in the Congress.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 06:47 AM
Jul 2014

We will have a week or two to make our voices heard. No treaty voted by the Congress is "secret." But the negotiations, yes. Absolutely.

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