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Where is the United Nations re the bombing of Gaza? (Original Post) malaise Jul 2014 OP
Maybe they're stuck in bomb shelters in Israel Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #1
They are right here in NYC. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #16
Israel, US Try to Ward Off UN Condemnation of Gaza Air Strikes alsame Jul 2014 #2
Thanks malaise Jul 2014 #5
Business alsame Jul 2014 #13
No one ever learns malaise Jul 2014 #14
so true! nt ellenrr Jul 2014 #38
Chris Hayes just delivered an excellent rant malaise Jul 2014 #20
UN chief Ban Ki-moon pleas for Gaza ceasefire. elleng Jul 2014 #3
Thanks elleng malaise Jul 2014 #6
You're welcome, mal. elleng Jul 2014 #18
the UN is as effectual as ever-- calls for both sides to have a truce, ellenrr Jul 2014 #4
They love the pretence malaise Jul 2014 #7
me too. :( -the "equalizing" is one of the main strategies... ellenrr Jul 2014 #8
Did you see this malaise Jul 2014 #11
No, I didn't see that. Pitiful. ellenrr Jul 2014 #15
Apparently Obama has offered to broker a cease fire malaise Jul 2014 #19
last I heard Obama had expressed support for Israel's "right of self-defense". nt ellenrr Jul 2014 #22
That was part of it malaise Jul 2014 #24
yes... ellenrr Jul 2014 #34
is this person on MSNBC? I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk about the imbalance on mainstream ellenrr Jul 2014 #35
Jerusalem's restraint in defending itself against Hamas terrorism tritsofme Jul 2014 #9
+1000 nt PCIntern Jul 2014 #10
Ah yes, "restraint" Scootaloo Jul 2014 #27
indeed nt ellenrr Jul 2014 #37
Barf. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #33
so - if the iron dome has been successful in repelling rockets - why the attack by Israel ellenrr Jul 2014 #36
The UN has frequently spoken out against Israeli policies BainsBane Jul 2014 #12
The UN should condemn the situation, and all the players (nt) Babel_17 Jul 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #21
No doubt the U.S. will call on the UN to establish a No Fly Zone over Gaza. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #23
LOL malaise Jul 2014 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #26
I condemn the rockets too but 81 people are dead malaise Jul 2014 #28
The nobel peace prize winner who funds the military of one side of the conflict? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #31
Interestingly... Scootaloo Jul 2014 #32
Where is the 'proportionality'? elias49 Jul 2014 #29
+1000, thank you for expressing this. I often think about what makes this situation different than ellenrr Jul 2014 #39
Precisely malaise Jul 2014 #40

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
1. Maybe they're stuck in bomb shelters in Israel
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:32 PM
Jul 2014

hiding out from indiscriminately-fired rockets from Hamas.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
13. Business
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:51 PM
Jul 2014

as usual. As a friend said today, every time Israel starts bombing someone, we go the UN and act like their lawyer.

malaise

(267,784 posts)
14. No one ever learns
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:54 PM
Jul 2014

back to December 2008 and January 2009. This time there's a World Cup for diversion - that time was the Christmas holidays and the Obama victory.
I weep for this planet.

elleng

(130,126 posts)
3. UN chief Ban Ki-moon pleas for Gaza ceasefire.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jul 2014

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has appealed for a ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza.

Mr Ban urged both sides to exercise restraint, saying the Middle East could not afford "another full-blown war".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28252008

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
4. the UN is as effectual as ever-- calls for both sides to have a truce,
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jul 2014

as if this was an equal situation rather than the most massive force in the region, funded by your tax dollars, with an army, navy , and air force, bombing a civilian population which cannot even flee.

malaise

(267,784 posts)
7. They love the pretence
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:40 PM
Jul 2014

at both sides as if people are being killed on both sides as if the weapons can be compared.

I'm sick of this planet and persons who defend this madness.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
8. me too. :( -the "equalizing" is one of the main strategies...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:44 PM
Jul 2014

unfortunately many otherwise intelligent people get caught up in the victimization thing that Israel plays so well.
so here I have to say 'I'm a Jew' otherwise I get called anti-semitic.

otoh, there are always a small number, even in Israel, who bravely continue to speak truth.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
15. No, I didn't see that. Pitiful.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:02 PM
Jul 2014

As if you could find an Israeli home which has been destroyed.
I don't know if that was a mistake, so much as showing her ideology.

If you can get Euronews (it is online - I get it on tv thru cable) they do some good reporting. They show the remains of the houses, the Palestinian dead and wounded, and the hospitals which run out of medicine.

malaise

(267,784 posts)
19. Apparently Obama has offered to broker a cease fire
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:31 PM
Jul 2014

Chris Haynes has a very good rant on this now. He's discussing the imbalance

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
35. is this person on MSNBC? I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk about the imbalance on mainstream
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 05:27 AM
Jul 2014

tv.
i will try to catch his show.

tritsofme

(17,320 posts)
9. Jerusalem's restraint in defending itself against Hamas terrorism
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:46 PM
Jul 2014

has been admirable.

It is encouraging to see the success of the Iron Dome repelling the rockets flung by Hamas terrorists.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
27. Ah yes, "restraint"
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:32 PM
Jul 2014

I always wonder. if this is what you regard as a "restrained" response, what would an "expected" response be?

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
36. so - if the iron dome has been successful in repelling rockets - why the attack by Israel
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 05:28 AM
Jul 2014

on an unarmed, imprisoned, civilian population?

Response to malaise (Original post)

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
23. No doubt the U.S. will call on the UN to establish a No Fly Zone over Gaza.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:21 PM
Jul 2014

And, offer U.S. troops to don Blue Helmets in the peace keeping force.

They will do this as soon as they get permission to do so from Jerusalem.

Response to malaise (Original post)

malaise

(267,784 posts)
28. I condemn the rockets too but 81 people are dead
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:35 PM
Jul 2014

from Israeli missiles. Until the US condemns both sides we're wasting time in this modern day apartheid.
Jimmy Carter was right.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
30. The nobel peace prize winner who funds the military of one side of the conflict?
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:42 PM
Jul 2014

or the nobel peace prize winner who keeps writing checks for the military coup in Egypt that sentenced over a thousand people to death for supporting a political party?

Did you mean the nobel peace prize winner who sent arms and training to the guys who are now tearing up iraq, in an effort to further inflame a civil war in Syria in the hopes of "regime change"?

Or the nobel peace prize winner who funded and armed the king of Bahrain to put down a peaceful democratic movement with extreme lethal force?

Further US involvement in the middle east needs to be strenuously avoided, both for our sake and for theirs. let Norway try it again. or hell, nobody ever asks Madagascar for help, maybe thye have some tricks up their sleeves?

Now get me clear, i like Obama - I like most of his domestic policy, at least. But really? He's not at the top of the list for this sort of thing. No US president is, until we get one that will extricate the Us from the situation and try to approach it for the situation it is - the 11th strongest military on the planet waging war against a captive stateless population.

Response to Scootaloo (Reply #30)

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
32. Interestingly...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:56 PM
Jul 2014

Hamas is an affiliate organization of the same political party al-Sisi sentenced all those people to death for supporting. he also literally killed an additional two thousand people in Cairo for supporting the same party, plus an undisclosed number through Egypt.

I'm sure that if you put Israel, Israel's sugardaddy, and al-Sisi into a room together, they'll come up with something

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
29. Where is the 'proportionality'?
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:42 PM
Jul 2014

It drives me crazy listening to the MSM going on and on about the 'hundreds of rockets launched by Hamas'. And there are no Israeli injuries,? Huh? That's because Hamas' bottle-rockets generally land in vacant lots or don't detonate. Then Israel sends in fighter jets and blows the shit out of a whole town...children be damned.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
39. +1000, thank you for expressing this. I often think about what makes this situation different than
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 05:36 AM
Jul 2014

others in the world.
There are plenty of situations in the world where one people brutalize, murder, oppress another.
But there is none other - as far as I can think - where the one that is doing the oppressing is regarded as the "good guy" and the victim of the oppression becomes the "bad guy".

I believe the reason for this is the Holocaust and the Israeli propaganda machine which has worked very efficiently, in the world, but particularly in the US.

Someone said - Edward Said? - that the Palestinians have the misfortune to be the victims of the Holocaust too.

I do not believe there will be an end to the carnage until American Jews wake up to the truth.
Which actually is happening. There is a lot less of a "forced consensus" on Israel than there used to be.

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