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A new study of college women and their attitudes about so-called sluttiness found that slut-shaming calling out a woman for her supposedly promiscuous sexual behavior actually had more to do with a womans social class than it did with sexual activity.
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"Viewing women only as victims of men's sexual dominance fails to hold women accountable for the roles they play in reproducing social inequalities," Elizabeth Armstrong, a sociology and organizational studies professor at the University of Michigan, said in a release. "By engaging in 'slut-shaming' the practice of maligning women for presumed sexual activity women at the top create more space for their own sexual experimentation, at the cost of women at the bottom of social hierarchies."
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Armstrong and her team had originally viewed slut-shaming as based on sexual double standards established and upheld by men, to womens disadvantage, they wrote in the study, which was published Wednesday. They thought that, due to societal expectations that men should seek out lots of sexual activity but that women could only do so while in a committed relationship, the women are vulnerable to slut stigma when they violate this sexual standard and consequently experience status loss and discrimination, they wrote.
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The authors discovered that the affluent women participating in sororities in fact worried less about being judged as a slut than did the less affluent women, even though they would engage in more sexual activity. That was because they kept that activity quiet and conveniently seemed to define the accepted standards surrounding sexual behavior.
But when the less affluent women tried to befriend them, the affluent women would publicly slut-shame them as a way to convey that they didnt fit in.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/29/slut-shaming-study.html
Interesting read.
edited to add: I posted this because I thought it was interesting how once again it's an 'us' vs 'them' type of thing. This was another way of putting poor/less fortunate people 'in their place'. Adding in the race factor and I think that says it all....
I also wanted to add this is the first time I've seen this or any article like it. Maybe I should have included this originally but I never expected for anyone to call for my banning over this.
RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)Great to see you!
one_voice
(20,043 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Unreal and I'm glad the majority of the jury have a brain.
On Fri Jul 11, 2014, 05:09 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Slut-shaming has little to do with sex, study finds
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025228107
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Slut shaming is a misogynist term. This post should be hidden and the admins need to consider banning this poster.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jul 11, 2014, 05:18 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Slut" is a misogynistic term. "Slut shaming" isn't, and there's nothing about this post meant to be offensive. This idea that someone would/should be banned for posting this article is ludicrous.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Yet another thread blaming women, it is insensitive and over the top. It meets the criteria for hiding it.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I believe slut shaming is misogynistic, but the term, particularly as used here, certainly is not.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's the key phrase in the study reported in the post. I'm assuming you don't think that the OP somehow edited the phrase into the actual article too ? I'm always curious in situations like this - what word would you have the OP use ?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Both men and women are known to shame women for their sexual behavior. This is not misogynistic behavior alone. Calling for a ban of the poster is over the top.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Why is an article that is nearly six weeks old being rehashed. Hiding because this doesn't need to be discussed. TxT
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)There's never been a "riderinthestorm" appreciation thread and my OP's usually drop. If one isn't a "popular" poster, you're OP's don't usually get a lot of love.
I'm glad one voice re-posted this. Hopefully she'll get a better result because the article is really excellent and deserves a chance for discussion.
(I can't believe people alerted on this... un-fucking-believable)
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)So yours might not have been the first posted. I know I've seen in three or four times. If I recall correctly, at least one of the threads got a significant number of responses.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)maddezmom
(135,060 posts)Think I was on vacation. Glad it was reposted...food for thought not only about the study but about the usage here on DU.
Tetris_Iguana
(501 posts)It's all about timing.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I wish I had. I'd taken a break for about over a month and wasn't even reading very much.
To me it's another way to hurt poor people. Another reason we need to try and level the playing field.
As for being popular, I know who you and I always like your posts.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)And back atcha!
The ridiculous "ban her" comment by the jury along with the fact this was alerted on at all is shameful. This is a discussion board! It's here to discuss stuff!
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)Out there in the mainstream. In no way should she be banned. Maybe the alerter should put her on ignore.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=47150
I tend to agree that the term should be retired, but I don't think that the OP in this thread was intended to insult anyone.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)But calling for banning.....give me a break.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)it's a term used to describe the behavior of women and men who attempt to shame a sexually active woman by calling her "slut" "whore" "easy lay" etc. etc. It's not a term used to demean women, but instead calls out those who attempt to do so. It means the exact opposite of what the thought police are claiming.
Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)(And that's how I used it the one time it came up in conversation), but I just looked it up and it actually means
It is a neologism used to describe the act of making a person, especially a woman, feel guilty or inferior for certain sexual behaviors or desires that deviate from traditional or orthodox gender expectations, or that which may be considered to be contrary to natural or religious law. Some examples of circumstances where women are "slut-shamed" include: violating accepted dress codes by dressing in sexually provocative ways, requesting access to birth control,[1][2][3] having premarital or casual sex, or being raped or sexually assaulted.[4]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut-shaming
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)"used to describe the act of making a person, especially a woman, feel guilty" should IMO be "used to describe the act of trying to make a person, especially a woman, feel guilty"
Slut shaming exists whether or not it's successful.
Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)There are points in favor of moving on from the term.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)appreciate the kind words.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)but for me to be banned. I'm really at a loss.
This is why I'm taking longer breaks...this was a malicious alert, imo.
Thank for letting me know.
Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)It was definitely a malicious alert, but most DUers are above that trying to drive others off DU, so do what I do now and focus on the good folk at DU and ignore the rest
one_voice
(20,043 posts)Glad to see you're back! I would really have missed you around here.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)and some people really need to get a grip, more like.
Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)Calling for the banning of a DUer is an abuse of the alert system. If you haven't already done it, you should consider hitting the alert button on the bottom of the jury result notification you got, so admin can look at this one.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Trying to get a long term member BANNED for doing not one fucking thing wrong. Too bad loser. you failed.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)I hope someone alerted on the alerter. Sounds like they alerted on a personal grudge rather than the actual post.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,944 posts)It is a shame (me being kind) this article ran into the orthodoxy police, because this piece really shines a light, not on sex and sexuality as one might expect, but rather on financial inequality (i.e. 1% v 99%) which many here seem to think is actually important. Sex, sexual orientation, race, religion, abilities, and yet, it all seems to come down to one thing; money. Of course, it isn't really that simple, but more and more studies I have seen seem to revolve around the "haves" and "have-nots."
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I thought it was interesting because of the financial inequality. I guess I should have made that clearer, which is why I did the edit. I certainly wasn't dismissing any other 'groups' that do it. But if we're to stop this type of thing I think we need to be aware of ALL the bullies.
Yes, it's us vs them AGAIN....
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...commit to her, rather than just be used by him for sex.
Ugh. I can see truth to this. How disgusting. It also would explain why younger women, who have accomplished less for themselves and whose identities are more dependent on attractiveness and sexual desirability are particularly prone to this.
So, so key to raise our young girls with a sense of self and accomplishment beyond their appearance and their parents' wealth. And also key to raise our young men with this same view of women.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)in those other threads, it was broken down more. showed more of the picture. i do not remember, nor am i going to do the research on it.
but, interesting perspective from you.
ProfessorGAC
(64,989 posts)Really? The term is lifted directly from the article and that clearly shows that it was a real study done by professionals who were seeking out the the causes and impact of that term.
The alert was a ridiculous knee-jerk rejection to the first four letters in that term without actually seeing the context.
The alerter, i would hope, is embarassed.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)alp227
(32,015 posts)Yes it's true that slut-shaming does originate with religious beliefs about sex being sinful. But then, humans can be arrogant and narcissistic as well.