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Martin O'Malley: 'We Can't Send Children Back to Death' - Says 'Get Them Out Of These Kennels'

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Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley broke publicly with President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Friday, calling for a more humane policy toward the tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors who have illegally crossed into the United States.

“It is contrary to everything we stand for to try to summarily send children back to death,” the Democratic lawmaker told reporters. O’Malley also criticized the “kennels” in which those who have been detained are being kept and calling for the children to be placed in “the least restrictive” locations, including foster homes or with family members in the U.S.

“Through all of the great world religions we are told that hospitality to strangers is an essential human dignity,” O’Malley said. “It is a belief that unites all of us. And I have watched the pictures of young kids who have traveled for thousands of miles. I can only imagine, as a father of four, the heartbreak that those parents must have felt in sending their children across a desert where they can be muled and trafficked or used or killed or tortured. But with the hope, the hope, that they would reach the United States and that their children would be protected from what they were facing at home, which was the likelihood of being recruited into gangs and dying a violent death.”


O’Malley went so far as to call the children “refugees,” a term with legal weight that would allow most of them to remain in the U.S. He called on Congress and the President to avoid modifying the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008. That measure requires that children who are not from Canada or Mexico who have crossed the border to be given an opportunity to see an immigration judge to make their case for amnesty. Lawmakers on both sides, as well as the White House, are reviewing ways to amend that law to ease deportations of the tens of thousands of migrant children, who are largely from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras.

O’Malley said “the whole world is watching” how the U.S. responds to the humanitarian crisis.

“We have to do right not just by these kids but by our kids and protect the children who are here, put them in the least restrictive settings, get them out of these detention centers and these kennels where they are being cooped up, and operate as the good and generous people that we have always been,” he added. “That’s what’s at stake here, as well as the lives of these kids.”



read more: http://time.com/2978026/martin-omalley-minors-immigration/


Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley speaks during a general session at the California Democrats State Convention, March 8, 2014, in Los Angeles. Jae C. Hong—AP


Martin O'Malley ‏@GovernorOMalley 1h
The greatest power we have is power of our principles. We're not a country that should send children away & send them back to certain death

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Reply Martin O'Malley: 'We Can't Send Children Back to Death' - Says 'Get Them Out Of These Kennels' (Original post)
bigtree Jul 2014 OP
montanacowboy Jul 2014 #1
elleng Jul 2014 #2
bigtree Jul 2014 #3
cali Jul 2014 #34
yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #10
Kingofalldems Jul 2014 #13
yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #20
Kingofalldems Jul 2014 #57
bigtree Jul 2014 #59
Agschmid Jul 2014 #22
WinkyDink Jul 2014 #35
whistler162 Jul 2014 #38
joshcryer Jul 2014 #40
Cha Jul 2014 #4
bigtree Jul 2014 #6
Cha Jul 2014 #8
bigtree Jul 2014 #42
Cha Jul 2014 #58
Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #5
bigtree Jul 2014 #7
littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #15
Vattel Jul 2014 #9
bigtree Jul 2014 #12
Vattel Jul 2014 #19
MohRokTah Jul 2014 #11
bigtree Jul 2014 #14
phleshdef Jul 2014 #16
Ikonoklast Jul 2014 #44
Samantha Jul 2014 #17
bigtree Jul 2014 #45
Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #52
bigtree Jul 2014 #56
mountain grammy Jul 2014 #18
bigtree Jul 2014 #60
mountain grammy Jul 2014 #61
TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #21
davidthegnome Jul 2014 #23
Cracklin Charlie Jul 2014 #24
morningfog Jul 2014 #25
PeteSelman Jul 2014 #26
bigtree Jul 2014 #27
TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #28
bigtree Jul 2014 #29
ReRe Jul 2014 #30
flamingdem Jul 2014 #31
one_voice Jul 2014 #32
bigtree Jul 2014 #33
Scuba Jul 2014 #36
bigtree Jul 2014 #37
whistler162 Jul 2014 #39
bigtree Jul 2014 #41
riversedge Jul 2014 #43
butterfly77 Jul 2014 #46
bigtree Jul 2014 #47
butterfly77 Jul 2014 #49
bigtree Jul 2014 #55
bigtree Jul 2014 #48
unapatriciated Jul 2014 #50
Hekate Jul 2014 #51
Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #53
bigtree Jul 2014 #54
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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 09:47 PM

1. I smell Presidential Timber

go Martin

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 09:50 PM

2. He's got it, imo,

but maybe not enough 'noise' around him.

Biden/O'Malley! (but for Delaware/Maryland proximity.)

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 09:51 PM

3. I couldn't be more proud of my governor right now

 

. . . if this is his idea of a presidential bid, then I'm thoroughly impressed.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 07:01 AM

34. really courageous stuff. I have real respect for your guv- and long have

 

I don't agree with him on everything, but he's got some guts.

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:21 PM

10. Lol. Better talk with your Mayor in Baltimore

 

Who said "no" to accepting the children.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:29 PM

13. What does that have to do with O'Malley?

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:38 PM

20. Are you kidding?

 

He runs MY state and he goes and says that we better do something but yet won't even allow HIS state to accept children in Baltimore of all places just because he Mayor says so. Last time I checked, the Governor is senior to the Mayor unless she doesn't want any funding then she is free to do as she pleases.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #20)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 06:59 PM

57. He doesn't run Baltimore. And I live in Md. too.

Nice try. I see where you are coming from.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #20)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 07:09 PM

59. you're not accurate on that

 

. . . .the federal government is looking at sites in Md.. Some they're looking at have been rejected because they were deemed by local officials and legislators as inappropriate to house children. However, as the governor has expressed his desire to house them, it would seem inevitable that our state will receive some of these children. It is a mistake to think that our state isn't going to form some positive collective response to the crisis, as evidenced by the governor's words. Local complaints are to be expected and the governor is correct in remaining sensitive to legitimate ones from those officials; not satisfied with just forcing something through. It will happen. Wait for it.

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:48 PM

22. Yup!

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 07:04 AM

35. My first thought even just looking at his determined face!

 

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 08:59 AM

38. As in falling down.....TIMBER!!!!!!

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 09:09 AM

40. Oh let it be.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 09:52 PM

4. Mahalo bigtree! Oh I like him. He stands up for what is right.. not expedient.

What was Hillary's take?

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 09:54 PM

6. her take is in the article

 

. . .which frames this stand by Gov. O'Malley as a direct challenge to Hillary's position.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 09:57 PM

8. Okay.. I'll go to the link.. thanks!

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Response to Cha (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 11:08 AM

42. I hope you found what you were looking for, Cha

 

. . . I would have posted it here, I didn't want to spark another Hillary debate on this thread

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Response to bigtree (Reply #42)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 06:59 PM

58. No worries, bigtree.. I was

thinking about it this morning. Telling myself again.. "Must go to link before I comment on thread".

Really do like Gov O'Malley and speaking of Maryland.. the Prez is playing golf on a private course in that neck of the woods today.. I should say "played". Much needed R&R

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 09:52 PM

5. Hear hear! or if you prefer Here here!

We're a much bigger nation than some people would have you believe.


Thanks for the thread, bigtree.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 09:55 PM

7. Yes, Yes!

 

. . . such a gratifying response after a week of worrying about these children.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:12 PM

15. Truly. eom

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:10 PM

9. O'Malley: "Let's release these children now and then find any excuse to arrest them later."

 

He didn't really say that, but given his "arrest them all" policies in Baltimore, he may as well have. I totally agree with what O'Malley said, but given that it is coming from O'Malley, I have no reason to believe that it is sincere. It might be, or it might be a ploy to make himself look better than Clinton.

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Response to Vattel (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:26 PM

12. his 'ploy' as you call it is the ONLY bold embrace of these children

 

. . . by ANY of the potential presidential candidates.

He DOES look better than Clinton here. But, more importantly, he's provided the most prominent voice out there in unequivocal defense of these children. That's what I'm focused on. The election two years from now will take care of itself.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:34 PM

19. well, I am glad that he is saying it. I guess I should give him the benefit of the doubt on motives

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:23 PM

11. Wow, this guy is good.

 

Right now, I'm for Hillary.

This guy could sway me.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:51 PM

14. this is what leadership is all about

 

. . . he's going to take some heat for this.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:19 PM

16. I've already decided that O'Malley will be my candidate in the primary if he runs.

 

Unless Al Gore decides to jump, but I don't see that happening.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #16)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:35 PM

44. Move over, I'm doing the same.

I want O'Malley to run, really, really badly.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:21 PM

17. That is my governor, and I continue to be proud of him

I would love to see him on the ticket in 2016. I am so proud to live in the blue State of Maryland.

Sam

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Response to Samantha (Reply #17)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:36 PM

45. I can get behind a candidate who takes stands like this

 

. . . I hope he's taking notice of the wave of visceral expressions of approval for his blunt, compassionate, and progressive words.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #45)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 06:03 PM

52. I can, too. Would that President Obama and Hillary were so compassionate.

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Response to Louisiana1976 (Reply #52)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 06:56 PM

56. agreed

 

. . . this is a direct challenge to their stands on this issue.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:22 PM

18. Governor O'Malley is speaking for me and many more who want these children treated as refugees

because that's what they are!

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #18)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 08:25 PM

60. I'm going to help change the terminology of this, along with the governor

 

. . . refugees, not migrants.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #60)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 11:58 PM

61. Good, it's really important and Americans need to understand the difference.

The fool Republicans are behaving like heartless idiots because they are.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/calls-are-growing-consider-border-kids-refugees

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:47 PM

21. That is what is right.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:54 PM

23. Absolutely right.

Thank you, Mr. O'Malley. If only we had more like you.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:09 AM

24. Did we not do something similar with the Vietnamese?

I lived next door to a Vietnamese family who came through Fort Chaffee. They were wonderful neighbors.

I think I love this O'Malley.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:09 AM

25. Fantastic! Stark contrast to Hillary.

 

Hope he keeps this up.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:27 AM

26. Hyperbole much?

"Certain death" is a little dramatic isn't it? If it was all that bad they'd be dead already wouldn't they?

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Response to PeteSelman (Reply #26)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:32 AM

27. well, that's just as good an illustration as any

 

. . . that they're caught between a rock and a hard place.

Sounds more like a refugee problem (as Gov. O'Malley stated) than a migrant question.

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Response to PeteSelman (Reply #26)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:49 AM

28. No, they wouldn't. There have been refugees from heinous situations you sound well short of reasoned

here and it isn't funny or cute would you like to be a child or have your child come through many dangers and seeing the worst to be punted right back into it?

Is their no time where there can be some decency? Does everything ever just have to be snark and callousness.

I mean hellfire, some of might make it it is only 82.71% chance they eat it. Send Em on back, it'll build character!

Awww horsepucky! From what I understand it is only really like a 26.25%. Not bad at all, you can't save everyone for crying out loud!

Yeah, 26% is low, you might as well say 25% or even say around 20%, it's not that bad!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:58 AM

29. update: soundcloud of remarks in op

 

https://soundcloud.com/americarising/martin-omalley-we-are-not-a-country-that-should-turn-children-away (right-wing source)




Children sleep in a holding cell at a US Customs and Border Protection processing facility in Brownsville, Texas. (Reuters/Eric Gay/Pool)


( oh, for christ sakes, says my wife upon seeing this image)

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 01:10 AM

30. K&R

FINALLY! A Democrat stands up and tries to jerk us out of our terd-way malaise.
Thank you Governor O'Malley!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 01:19 AM

31. This begs the question: if we take those who are here why not

take a few hundred thousand more?

I like him but it's not steady ground due to the logic of volume.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 01:21 AM

32. I like him very much..

I've been following him. I hope to see & hear more from him.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 06:56 AM

33. kick

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 07:35 AM

36. "The greatest power we have is power of our principles." Obviously he's not a Third Wayer.

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 08:55 AM

37. kick

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 09:03 AM

39. Well Governor how many is your state willing

to take in and ensure that they remain safe from predators. What type of temporary facilities do you have in Maryland? Put up Governor instead of blathering for yourself.

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Response to whistler162 (Reply #39)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 09:48 AM

41. you should know that the federal govt. is considering sites in Md. to house the children

 

. . . there's been some pushback from local officials and congressmen, but you can see for yourself what the attitude of the governor is. He's obviously in favor of providing adequate shelter. Sen. Mikulski and Cardin in my state have objected to a particular site, but Mikulski says she's open to placing them somewhere else in Md. I'd expect that they'd find a way, given the governor's stance.

I mean, why do you think he'd have objections to housing them here after making such a statement? Why wouldn't he approve of sheltering them in my state? I'm not getting your complaint. The governor, just last month, signed a bill which expands opportunities for abused, undocumented children.

Earlier this year, he announced that a jail in Baltimore would not necessarily cooperate with feds on deportations, as most jails do.

Besides, our state is already housing some of the children . . .


Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski said she opposes the proposal for the former Social Security Administration buildings, and has asked the federal government to consider other buildings in the state.

"I am concerned about the health and safety consequences of putting hundreds and possibly thousands of children in a closed down Social Security Administration office building while we work through language barriers to ascertain their legal status and locate their parents," the Maryland Democrat said in a statement.

"Federal agencies must work closely with local communities and nonprofits to select sites that meet the unique needs of these vulnerable children," the Maryland Democrat said. "We must be careful to select sites that are kid-friendly. Being empty and available cannot be the only criteria we use."

Meanwhile, Senate Democrats — led by Mikulski — have proposed an additional $1 billion to deal with the spike in child immigrants.

In a related development, the Board of Child Care of the United Methodist Church said Monday that it recently won a federal grant to care for some of the children, and is housing more than a dozen at a facility in western Baltimore County.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-children-immigrants-20140609,0,3035488.story
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-06-17/news/bs-md-new-shelters-20140617_1_sites-children-health-and-human-services

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 11:28 AM

43. agree.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:48 PM

46. I like O'Malley but..

 

I notice politicians and others speak up for homeless from other countries but don't say a damn thing about children and adults already living in America living on the streets. Affordable housing for Americans!

I can see in these children and there families living better than Americans who have been here for decades and catching hell! Have at it..I live in Detroit.

Don't send them here everytime there is a problem this is the drop off spot seen it throughout the Clinton years,after Katrina. Nothing against the people but send them to Idaho,Wyoming,New York,North Dakota,South Dakota, Oklahoma we have enough problems.

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Response to butterfly77 (Reply #46)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 01:35 PM

47. well, this is a progressive-minded state

 

. . . and our governor does not neglect the needs of our state's children so that's just not something you're going to be able to argue far against.

I don't know where you live, so I'm in no position to argue that, but I would say that responsibility for these children does need to be shared out as equitably as possible, but they are our responsibility.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #47)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 05:26 PM

49. Americans are our responsibility..

 

Why don't I see as many arguing so hardily for Americans on the street,they seem to think that is just fine. By the way my governor is a rotten,stinking,piece of shit!

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Response to butterfly77 (Reply #49)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 06:52 PM

55. I wouldn't send them to Detroit

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 03:57 PM

48. »

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 05:48 PM

50. Thanks for the OP bigtree

My family and I feel the same about this. My parents live a few miles from Murrieta, Ca. As a family we so disgusted by what took place there. My sister started a petition regarding this subject. I ask that any one who feels the same to please sign.

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/america-does-not-turn.fb51?source=s.icn.fb&r_by=1209208

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 05:54 PM

51. THANK YOU GOV. O'MALLEY! "Get them out of these kennels."

"We're not a country that should send children away & send them back to certain death."

I hope to Gods we hear more from him, soon and frequently.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 06:14 PM

53. Regarding the refugees that are placed in Maryland, what's keeping O'Malley from

placing the children in foster homes or with family members who live in that state? I think placing them in less restrictive settings would be a good idea.

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Response to Louisiana1976 (Reply #53)

Sat Jul 12, 2014, 06:51 PM

54. our state officials say they want to find appropriate shelter in our state

 

. . . and I believe they will. Several sites are under consideration, and several others have been rejected as inappropriate for housing children.

We do already have some of the children receiving shelter from the United Methodist Church which has obtained a federal grant to make that happen. As you might imagine, there's no easy solution, but I believe our legislators and local officials will find a way.

Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski said she opposes the proposal for the former Social Security Administration buildings, and has asked the federal government to consider other buildings in the state.

Mikulski, for one made this statement yesterday, "Federal agencies must work closely with local communities and nonprofits to select sites that meet the unique needs of these vulnerable children . . . We must be careful to select sites that are kid-friendly. Being empty and available cannot be the only criteria we use."

I'll gladly post the success of that pledge when it happens.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Jul 13, 2014, 11:14 AM

62. »

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jul 28, 2014, 02:19 PM

63. Bumping this up -

Saw a meme for this today and posted it in Socialist Progressives. I don't always read GD so I don't know if it's been up in here as well. I think it's ok for public use (I found it on the MoveOn Facebook page):

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