Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Omaha Steve

(99,505 posts)
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 01:29 PM Jul 2014

Who are you going to believe — Senator Elizabeth Warren or Congressman Jared Polis?


https://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/real-people-pushed-out-of-tpp-talks/#more-23418

https://talkingunion.wordpress.com/

Real people pushed out of TPP talks
Posted on July 11, 2014 by dsalaborblogmoderator


Sen Elizabeth Warren and Congressman Jared Polis

by Dave Anderson

Who are you going to believe — Senator Elizabeth Warren or Congressman Jared Polis?

At Public Citizen’s annual gala in May, Warren launched an attack on backroom trade deals such as the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) currently being negotiated: “From what I hear, Wall Street, pharmaceuticals, telecom, big polluters and outsourcers are all salivating at the chance to rig the deal in the upcoming trade talks. So the question is, Why are the trade talks secret? You’ll love this answer. Boy, the things you learn on Capitol Hill,” Warren said. “I actually have had supporters of the deal say to me ‘They have to be secret, because if the American people knew what was actually in them, they would be opposed.’ /

“Think about that. Real people, people whose jobs are at stake, small-business owners who don’t want to compete with overseas companies that dump their waste in rivers and hire workers for a dollar a day — those people, people without an army of lobbyists — they would be opposed. I believe if people across this country would be opposed to a particular trade agreement, then maybe that trade agreement should not happen.”

By contrast, Congressman Polis has straddled the fence on both fast track authority and the TPP. He is “troubled by the lack of transparency in the U.S. TPP negotiations” and says he won’t support a deal which undermines protections for the environment, consumers and workers.

FULL story at link.

10 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Who are you going to believe — Senator Elizabeth Warren or Congressman Jared Polis? (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2014 OP
If they're both concerned... Then leak it. politicat Jul 2014 #1
Kick.... daleanime Jul 2014 #2
Polis is saying that the TPP does not permit corporations to overturn djean111 Jul 2014 #3
Not just suck taxpayer dollars, but pre-empt laws that protect consumers. Scuba Jul 2014 #4
Jared Polis is my congresscritter so, to answer your question, truebluegreen Jul 2014 #5
Mine too... Buddyblazon Jul 2014 #9
I agree that he is approachable and a fantastic person truebluegreen Jul 2014 #10
Reject all existing trade partnerships. Half-Century Man Jul 2014 #6
2014: non-corpos arrested at TPP conferences MisterP Jul 2014 #7
K&R woo me with science Jul 2014 #8

politicat

(9,808 posts)
1. If they're both concerned... Then leak it.
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 01:34 PM
Jul 2014

If they don't have the whole doc, leak what they've got.

It's a simple solution. Not necessarily great for long-term job security, but I'm in Polis' district. If he leaked the TPP, he would would have the support of the district. The only way to combat secrecy is with sunlight, after all.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. Polis is saying that the TPP does not permit corporations to overturn
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 01:46 PM
Jul 2014

laws/regulations that keep them from making a profit.
Maybe he is splitting hairs. I don't know that a corporation can actually overturn a law or regulation - but it can certainly sue for estimated lost profits due to a law or regulation, effectively possibly bankrupting a municipality.
Effectively suck taxpayer dollars.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
9. Mine too...
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jul 2014

I've met him several times. He's really a fantastic person. So unbelievably approachable.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
10. I agree that he is approachable and a fantastic person
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jul 2014

with a great back story...I was one of his caucus delegates when he first ran for Congress.

But now I see him as having too much of a pro-business slant.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
7. 2014: non-corpos arrested at TPP conferences
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 02:29 PM
Jul 2014

2015: teabaggers protest TPP
2017: bluelinkers insist that TPP has brought unemployment down to 0.000001% and 100.5% of Americans happy with it
2018: the lights go out: Gloria LaRiva blamed for war in Gabon

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Who are you going to beli...