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bigtree

(85,915 posts)
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 03:22 AM Jul 2014

Surge Of Refugee Minors Includes Pregnant Mothers - Moved To Permanent Facilities

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Surge Of Undocumented Minors Includes Pregnant Mothers http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/surge-of-undocumented-minors-includes-pregnant-mothers … via @dcbigjohn


WASHINGTON — The thousands of undocumented minors in U.S. detention facilities includes an unknown number of pregnant teenaged immigrants.

The pregnant minors have been moved into longer-term shelters operated by the Department of Health and Human Services in order to provide federally funded health care.

It is unclear how many of the minors are pregnant and now in HHS custody, and HHS spokesman Kenneth Wolfe said Friday that the department does not have “available” statistics on the number of pregnant minors housed in HHS facilities.

But Wolfe confirmed the department, which is tasked with overseeing the flood of immigrants, moves pregnant girls to permanent shelters, rather than the temporary detention facilities that most of the undocumented children are in.

According to the HHS website, the department maintains “approximately” 100 permanent shelters in the United States, most along the southern border with Mexico.


read: http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/surge-of-undocumented-minors-includes-pregnant-mothers


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Surge Of Refugee Minors Includes Pregnant Mothers - Moved To Permanent Facilities (Original Post) bigtree Jul 2014 OP
The same people who'd protest abortion clinics alp227 Jul 2014 #1
Color me suspicious perdita9 Jul 2014 #2
... bigtree Jul 2014 #3
I made an observation about a national news story perdita9 Jul 2014 #8
Mexican Government: Freight Trains Are Now Off-Limits to Central American Migrants bigtree Jul 2014 #4
70,000 Kids Will Show Up Alone at Our Border This Year. What Happens to Them? bigtree Jul 2014 #5
Wow! What bigtree said.... riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #6
we've got Holocaust deniers, now migrant children deniers bigtree Jul 2014 #7
Don't put words in my mouth perdita9 Jul 2014 #9
edited out the nastiness (and it WAS nasty) bigtree Jul 2014 #10
You're the one who's getting nasty perdita9 Jul 2014 #11
yeah, I got nasty bigtree Jul 2014 #12
I see no question whatsoever in your screed. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #13
You'd think he'd have even come up with a Fox News style question. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #14
My question: Are these really refugees from violence... perdita9 Jul 2014 #15

alp227

(31,959 posts)
1. The same people who'd protest abortion clinics
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 04:09 AM
Jul 2014

would also demand the immediate deportation of the girl or even escort the girl to get an abortion! I've seen enough "anchor baby" postings on the Freeperville parts of the web to conclude that.

perdita9

(1,142 posts)
2. Color me suspicious
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 06:18 AM
Jul 2014

Last night NBC Nightly news ran a story that included 'refugees' crossing the border after an arduous 1,000 mile journey.

I watched closely but couldn't spot any signs of dehydration among any of the immigrants. No one even sported a decent pair of bags under their eyes. They did a close up on one 8 year old girl. Her face was so clean she didn't even have dirt in her ears, nor were there sweat stains on her scalp. The white stripes on her shirt were, in fact, white.

I've seen Boy Scouts look worse following an afternoon hike.

I'm beginning to get very suspicious of these tales of people walking long distances and hanging onto the top of trains. It won't surprise me to find this immigration 'crisis' is another con job that the media are promoting for ratings.

perdita9

(1,142 posts)
8. I made an observation about a national news story
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 12:13 PM
Jul 2014

And I haven't seen a single photo of those train pictures on NBC news.

For your information, I questioned Bush on the buildup to the Iraq war too.

bigtree

(85,915 posts)
5. 70,000 Kids Will Show Up Alone at Our Border This Year. What Happens to Them?
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jul 2014
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/child-migrants-surge-unaccompanied-central-america



____ The surge was already in full swing by the time Adrián started on his path north, in December 2012. He took a bus to the Mexico-Guatemala border, crossed the Suchiate River by inner tube into the state of Chiapas, and stole a bike to pedal to the city of Tapachula. He walked 150 miles north, making sure to skirt La Arrocera, a broad swath of scrubland known for migrant kidnappings and assaults. He slept on the doorstep of a church after finding the migrant shelter burned to the ground.

Then, in the town of Arriaga, he hopped aboard La Bestia, the infamous freight train that many migrants ride to the US border despite the often-repeated horror stories: the surging wheels that slice through people who slip trying to jump on moving boxcars, or fall off while sleeping; the thieves who go car to car with machetes or .38s; the night raids from Mexican law enforcement as well as kidnappers sent by Los Zetas.

Adrián rode La Bestia to Guadalajara, where he spent a sleepless Christmas night on a sidewalk. He got back on and rode for days until reaching Monterrey, where he was forced off the train when someone attacked him with a machete because he was gay. He fled barefoot on the trackside gravel and walked an hour to a village, where, his feet bleeding, he pleaded for a pair of shoes.

He begged for money. He sold newspapers. He even sold his body for $50. He headed north to the border at Nuevo Laredo; when he couldn't get across, he moved backward, 450 miles south to San Luis Potosí­, 200 miles west to Guadalajara once more, before heading another 1,000 miles north to the Sonora Desert, finally ending up in that decrepit safe house near the border.

When the Border Patrol caught Adrián a week later in the Arizona desert—he'd ditched the pot at a drop point along the way—he became one of the 38,833 unaccompanied minors apprehended by the Border Patrol in fiscal year 2013. That was a 59 percent jump from the year before, and a 142 percent increase from fiscal 2011; no one knows how many more kids avoided Border Patrol detection, or never got that far. This year, officials have told advocates they anticipate the numbers to double again, to as many as 74,000 unaccompanied children. That's equivalent to every single student in Dallas' 81 public middle and high schools getting up and walking across the border in a single year . . .


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/child-migrants-surge-unaccompanied-central-america

perdita9

(1,142 posts)
9. Don't put words in my mouth
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 12:15 PM
Jul 2014

I didn't deny that there were migrant children. I made an observation that they looked pretty darned clean and healthy for people who just went on a 1,000 mile journey.

bigtree

(85,915 posts)
10. edited out the nastiness (and it WAS nasty)
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jul 2014

perdita9 (707 posts)
2. Color me suspicious

Last night NBC Nightly news ran a story that included 'refugees' crossing the border after an arduous 1,000 mile journey.

I watched closely but couldn't spot any signs of dehydration among any of the immigrants. No one even sported a decent pair of bags under their eyes. They did a close up on one 8 year old girl. Her face was so clean she didn't even have dirt in her ears, nor were there sweat stains on her scalp. The white stripes on her shirt were, in fact, white.

I've seen Boy Scouts look worse following an afternoon hike.

I'm beginning to get very suspicious of these tales of people walking long distances and hanging onto the top of trains. It won't surprise me to find this immigration 'crisis' is another con job that the media are promoting for ratings.

perdita9

(1,142 posts)
11. You're the one who's getting nasty
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 12:48 PM
Jul 2014

I just made an observation and asked a question.

If you're so sure you're right, why the hostility?

bigtree

(85,915 posts)
12. yeah, I got nasty
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 01:13 PM
Jul 2014

I'd like to see you post your query as a free-standing thread so I could watch DU virtually tear you apart for it.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. I see no question whatsoever in your screed.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jul 2014

What was the question you thought you were asking? All I see are statements and presumptions.

perdita9

(1,142 posts)
15. My question: Are these really refugees from violence...
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 04:37 PM
Jul 2014

...or are people using this as an opportunity to migrate into this country? From news reports, the coyotes are certainly selling passages, using the law George W. Bush signed that guarantees children from non-contiguous countries the right to an immigration hearing.

For instance, earlier this week I heard an interview on NPR with an 8 year old who said a gang had threatened him with death. I thought that was pretty strange. Why would a gang threaten an 8 year old, or a lot of 8 year olds? 8 year olds don't have money but their parents do and, if terrified enough, they'll contract with a coyote to take the kid to the American border for a payment of several thousand dollars.

So my question is, is this in fact an actual refugee crisis or a money making scheme the coyotes and the gangs have cooked up among themselves? The story on NBC Nightly News on Saturday showed immigrants who looked well fed, hydrated and clean. Not stressed out people fleeing for their lives.

I'm all for taking in refugees. I'm morally opposed to people entering the country under false pretenses.

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