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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 11:58 AM Jul 2014

Millennials and Complementary and Alternative Medicine use: Some depressing news

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/07/15/millennials-and-cam-use-some-depressing-news/

After having returned from TAM, I was pumped up by how much interest was shown in the case of Stanislaw Burzynski. More importantly, I was heartened to learn while I was there that the Texas Medical Board had submitted an amended complaint against him containing 202 pages worth of charges. Sure, the descriptions of the violations Burzynski committed in the care of seven patients cited got a bit repetitive, but that’s Burzynski. His MO has been consistent for 37 years, the only change being that in 1997 he decided to use and abuse the clinical trial process as a means to an end, that end being treating any patient he wants with his antineoplastons.

Yes, I was happy to read that the Texas Medical Board was going after Burzynski hard. Then, as I arrived home, I saw this depressing article by David Koeppel in The Fiscal Times entitled Millennials Embrace Alternative Medicine, a $32 Billion Business. Millennials, as you might know, are generally considered to be the generation cohort following Generation X. Although, unlike the case for Baby Boomers and Generation X, there isn’t as tight an agreement over what birth years define the Millennial generation, Millennials were born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s. So we’re talking about people ranging in age from their teens to their early 30s. Of course, these whole named generations are almost entirely arbitrarily defined, but for purposes of this discussion it doesn’t matter. What we’re talking about are teens and young adults, and, if this article is to be believed, young adults are seriously into woo:

Young people are generally healthy. But when 36-year-old Jessica Rich was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis earlier this year, she didn’t choose the conventional medical treatment and prescription drugs that would have attempted to slow the disease’s progress, prevent disability, and control pain. Instead, she opted for alternative treatments.

Rich’s traditional Chinese doctor prescribes herbs, and she’s also seen other alternative medicine experts, including a naturopath, a medic intuitive, and an energy healer – all at a whopping cost of $5,600. Her parents paid for most of this.


OK, it’s really tempting to make jokes about a 36-year-old needing her parents to pay for her basic needs. Or at least it would have been before the financial crash of 2008. I could also point out that, technically, she’s a Gen Xer. But that’s just me being pedantic. In any event, here is a relatively young woman with a serious disease, and, instead of choosing effective medicine, she’s choosing the purest quackery. Yes, this is just an anecdote. We can easily find examples of older people making the same sort of bad health care choices. However, if this article is to be believed, there really is a major increase in the use of alternative medicine by young adults. While Koeppel prefaces his next observation by pointing out that most in their 20s and 30s don’t chare Rich’s distrust of conventional medicine, a lot of them are into the woo:


If the survey data can be believed, and that's a really huge freakin' IF, it makes me fear for the future, when I see young people falling for woo nonsense.

Sid
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Millennials and Complementary and Alternative Medicine use: Some depressing news (Original Post) SidDithers Jul 2014 OP
Just a little critical thinking phil89 Jul 2014 #1
36 isn't Millennial. nt. Hosnon Jul 2014 #2
Yes, Orac states that pretty clearly in the excerpted paragraphs...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #3
Ah I missed that. It doesn't make sense to include the story. Hosnon Jul 2014 #9
It is a mindset, not just an age group really HockeyMom Jul 2014 #13
What do you expect? Archae Jul 2014 #4
With commercials in between, too. arcane1 Jul 2014 #11
When traditional treatments don't work? HockeyMom Jul 2014 #5
My uncle is the same way LittleBlue Jul 2014 #8
Why is the author tempted to make jokes about her being broke? leftstreet Jul 2014 #6
Ah, youth... MineralMan Jul 2014 #7
The pseudo-intellectualism is strong with my generation. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #10
I Have a Friend, RobinA Jul 2014 #12
 

phil89

(1,043 posts)
1. Just a little critical thinking
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 12:02 PM
Jul 2014

Should be enough to lead people away from the scammers... But there's an attraction to that nonsense for some reason. Disgraceful to waste resources on it.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
9. Ah I missed that. It doesn't make sense to include the story.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 12:37 PM
Jul 2014

The author admits that the 36 year old is technically not a Millennial, yet goes on to say that isn't relevant. If we're going to talk about a certain age group, talk about that certain age group.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
13. It is a mindset, not just an age group really
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 01:04 PM
Jul 2014

My older daughter was born in 1979, one year earlier than the Millennials. She has Gen X friends well into their 40s and complains she doesn't know what they are talking about when they "reminisce". Huh? What? I never did that. I don't remember that. I wasn't born yet, or was too young to remember.

http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/how-millennial-are-you/

I took this and was blown away by my own results. I got 58% (no texting phone plan) and was born in 1948. Much of this quiz also has to do with your outlook on life. If you are liberal, you will not score very low on it no matter your age.

Archae

(46,322 posts)
4. What do you expect?
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jul 2014

They get their history from "Ancient Aliens" and "JFK."

They get "medical advice" from Jenny McCarthy.

They get "environmental news" from the Koch brothers.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
5. When traditional treatments don't work?
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jul 2014

How about Acupuncture? My Uncle had numerous surgeries on his back (decades ago) and nothing helped. He was in pain and walked stooped over. Someone suggested he try Acupuncture. The man was in his 70s when he tried it. The pain stopped and he could walk completely upright for the first time in 40 years. Too bad he didn't get it far, far younger.

My daughter is 35 (considers herself a Millennial) and also has had two back surgeries, physical therapy, pain management, meds, etc. Knowing what happened with my Uncle, I suggested to her she try Acupuncture. Unfortunately, insurance consider this "Alternative Medicine" and it is not covered. Why not? It has been used for thousands of years. Is she supposed to just keep having more surgeries? Take stronger and stronger meds? Stop working?

When something is NOT WORKING, try something else, even if that means Alternative Medicine, like Acupuncture.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
8. My uncle is the same way
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jul 2014

He's the last man in the world you'd think would see an acupuncturist. Mid 60s, blue collar, prayers at dinner type.

It worked for him after 8 years of pain in his back and legs. However it works, it seems to have worked for him.

leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
6. Why is the author tempted to make jokes about her being broke?
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jul 2014

Also, $5,600 isn't 'whopping' in terms of conventional medical costs

This could be a simple matter of a society completely UNABLE to pay staggering medical costs

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
7. Ah, youth...
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jul 2014

I never went to the doctor in my 20s and 30s. Any minor ailments I had could be dealt with using OTC stuff. It's easy to get along when you're young for most people. OTC or alternative stuff won't hurt you and the self-limiting ailments most of us get while we're in that age group will get better with or without treatment.

Obviously, people with serious health conditions are a separate case, but the typical millenial can pretty much do what he or she wants with regard to typical medical issues. It doesn't really matter - they'll get better soon anyhow.

Woo? OTC? Regular medical care? It doesn't really matter when you're that age for most people.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
12. I Have a Friend,
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 01:01 PM
Jul 2014

we're boomers. She gets that treatment where they "realign the plates in my skull" for headaches. She needs regular treatment because "the plates slip out of alignment again." I've blocked what this scam is called. Swears this has worked wonders for her. This is a college educated person. I just stare when she talks about it. I'm too embarrassed for her to enlighten her about the last time plates in her head were able to move.

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