Denial is now a river in Miami

[trumad]

My home town is fucked.

[daleanime]

2. My wingnut sister and BIL were up visiting from Florida this last weekend....

and I asked them about this. Their response was that they lived in a different part of the state so it didn't affect them.

[hobbit709]

3. From an article in the Guardian.

"Of the total of 4.2 million US citizens who live at an elevation of four feet or less, 2.4 million of them live in south Florida."

[Dustlawyer]

6. I bet most of the rest live between Galveston and Houston.

[seabeyond]

15. new orleans. nt

[RKP5637]

30. In fact, a lot of them are in the negative zone? n/t

[CanonRay]

11. No es mi problemo

should be the Tea Party motto.

[laundry_queen]

26. So true. nt

[RandiFan1290]

4. Why Taxpayers Will Bail Out the Rich When the Next Storm Hits

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/why-taxpayers-will-bail-out-rich-when-next-storm-hits-n25901

GULF SHORES, Ala. — As homeowners around the nation protest skyrocketing premiums for federal flood insurance, the Federal Emergency Management Agency has quietly moved the lines on its flood maps to benefit hundreds of oceanfront condo buildings and million-dollar homes, according to an analysis of federal records by NBC News.

The changes shift the financial burden for the next destructive hurricane, tsunami or tropical storm onto the neighbors of these wealthy beach-dwellers — and ultimately onto all American taxpayers.

In more than 500 instances from the Gulf of Alaska to Bar Harbor, Maine, FEMA has remapped waterfront properties from the highest-risk flood zone, saving the owners as much as 97 percent on the premiums they pay into the financially strained National Flood Insurance Program.

[trumad]

5. Fuck that article

Miami Beach is a thriving economy with thousands of jobs. This hits everyone.

[Spider Jerusalem]

18. Not for much longer, relatively speaking.

Ìn a few decades it'll be underwater. Along with pretty much everything north to the Everglades.

[Jerry442]

7. Pencil-whipping.

Yeah, that always works.

[handmade34]

8. excellent find

and investigative reporting... all people should be outraged...

[TBF]

9. FFS - maybe corporations should stop destroying the planet

Talk about missing the point ..

[raouldukelives]

10. Well, its a given. It is what they do and they are here to stay.

The only choice people of conscience are left with is to be a supporter of their efforts or to be someone who takes climate change seriously.
We see the evil staring us in the face. As clearly as slavery or a Third Reich. Just as then, the allure of money far outweighs most peoples puny convictions. And just as then, we can see the people who stood for more of the same and those who stood in the way.

[mountain grammy]

13. Maybe some money changed hands? Just sayin....

[Downwinder]

19. Can you opt out on religious grounds?

[RKP5637]

34. Incredible ... per NBC report

Just down the beach is the Royal Palms. It collected $58,230 for damages during Katrina, and $889,730 from Ivan. The Royal Palms was paying $218,484 a year, but after being changed to a lower-risk flood zone, now pays only $6,845, saving 97 percent.

[heaven05]

12. How can this be denied

as proof of a coming cataclysm? This type of flooding is a new happening. This is proof hitting them in the face and to some, nothing is amiss? Just can't face the truth I guess. Well I'm sure the truth will become more apparent in the coming years.

[RKP5637]

32. Most of them just can not think out of the box. Even with this many still don't get it, and

for others, it's out of sight out of mind. Republicans/deniers and the like IMO is really more of a mental problem. They are organically dysfunctional IMO. It is so sad they drag so many down with them. Often there are so many WTF's I have to remind myself we ARE in the 21st century, but I often think many of my countrymen are hundreds and hundreds of years behind.

[dembotoz]

14. think tourism opportunities--disney small world boat rides and gondola service like in venice

[Tuesday Afternoon]

22. ok. that made me chuckle. thanks for the grin.

[progressoid]

16. Oh, it's just cyclical. Or sunspots. Or something.

[Are_grits_groceries]

17. It's going to be a very real, permanent river

through Miami in the near future.
Then they can talk to Mother Nature who doesn't listen to fools.

[RKP5637]

33. +++ 1,000,000 +++ n/t

[TeeYiYi]

20. That's just a mirage...

...Everybody knows that! It's no big deal...



TYY

[Uncle Joe]

21. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, trumad.

[snagglepuss]

23. That looks like perfect mosquito breeding grounds. Are there mosquitos in Miami?

[A HERETIC I AM]

31. "Are there mosquitos in Miami?"

Does a one-legged duck swim in a circle?

[SomethingFishy]

24. High Tide?

I got out of Miami 25 years ago... Too hot and humid for me...

[greytdemocrat]

25. It's summer.

Tropical moisture has been causing flooding T-Storms
for days now. This isn't exactly something new.

I'm in Sarasota and we've been getting hit with these
storms for days...

When a storm drops 2 inches of rain in under an hour
you tend to get street flooding.

[BKH70041]

28. I agree 100%

I grew up in Miami and I keep coming back and looking at this pic thinking "WTH?!? That doesn't look any different than what the streets always looked like during the rainy season when I was growing up there in the 60's and 70's." Someone else posted something similar a few weeks ago and it looked like typical Miami street flooding after a big rain.

BFD.

[trumad]

37. Nope---

this is not caused by rain. This is happening on the sunniest days. This is ocean water.

[redqueen]

29. This is something new.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/11/miami-drowning-climate-change-deniers-sea-levels-rising

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025242787

[trumad]

36. No---

this is happening on bright sunny days. No rain in site.

Ocean water coming up through the drain pipes.

[onethatcares]

27. I'm in st pete

central, not the beaches and I can assure you a one meter rise in the gulf of mexico will raise hell with the condo/motel industry here.

this place is and has been built out for a long time, but for FEMA to change the flood maps to benefit the multi millionaires blows my mind.

[Boom Sound 416]

35. Now that's what I call waterfront property

[snooper2]

38. Did you take a big swig of that to confirm it is salt water?