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apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 12:37 PM Jul 2014

Maybe more grocery stores and shopping malls should offer free childcare to customers

Perhaps 1hr max per customer? That might stop some parents from leaving their kids in cars while they shop. This won't help the parents who simply forget or are absent minded, but it might decrease the number of parents who do it on purpose.

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Maybe more grocery stores and shopping malls should offer free childcare to customers (Original Post) apples and oranges Jul 2014 OP
Didn't the guy working for Home Depot... NCTraveler Jul 2014 #1
Why? I have two kids and have no issues with shopping without childcare. dilby Jul 2014 #2
Judgment from other parents doesn't help either apples and oranges Jul 2014 #3
That is still a parenting problem. dilby Jul 2014 #5
Not all kids are the same laundry_queen Jul 2014 #11
If your children have special needs the last place you should be leaving them is dilby Jul 2014 #12
That wasn't what I was addressing in my post, now was it? laundry_queen Jul 2014 #13
So your post had absolutely nothing to do with my post then. dilby Jul 2014 #15
LOL. You may want to re read the post I replied to laundry_queen Jul 2014 #16
No, people should start out with a plant. hamsterjill Jul 2014 #17
I've never seen child care at Freddy's but that's a Union employer so their wages are probably Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #7
It's called Playland and they are usually located by the Rest Rooms. dilby Jul 2014 #8
I used to pretend I have absolute knowledge of who should or should not be a parent too. LanternWaste Jul 2014 #9
Did you read the joke books also? The ones that told parents how to uppityperson Jul 2014 #18
I appreciate the sentiment but...... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #4
"Day care centers going where the shoppers are" PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #6
IKEA has a childcare center in the local store Retrograde Jul 2014 #10
Plus, PasadenaTrudy Jul 2014 #14
I agree. hamsterjill Jul 2014 #19
Personally, I can't stand children PasadenaTrudy Jul 2014 #20
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. Didn't the guy working for Home Depot...
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 12:39 PM
Jul 2014

Have a childcare facility on-site? Parent's aren't going to take the time to "check" their kid in if they are willing to leave them anyway.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
2. Why? I have two kids and have no issues with shopping without childcare.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 12:43 PM
Jul 2014

If you can't manage a grocery run with children you probably should not be a parent. Here where I live Fred Meyers offers childcare while you shop and I would never use it, I doubt they run background checks and the people working it are probably making minimum wage.

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
3. Judgment from other parents doesn't help either
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jul 2014

What about the parents who have a harder time controlling their kids?

dilby

(2,273 posts)
5. That is still a parenting problem.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 12:59 PM
Jul 2014

If you can't control your kids you probably should not have them. People should probably start out with a dog before deciding if they want to be a parent, if the dog is out of control and lacks discipline their children will be worse.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
11. Not all kids are the same
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 03:21 PM
Jul 2014

and you cannot possibly predict what your child's temperament will be in advance. And kids with certain disabilities can have more issues with behavior that even the best parent in the world may have problems controlling (and it's not like you can decide if your child has a disability or not). But, by all means, let's judge parents and go back to the days where children should be seen and not heard. The republicans are trying to drag the country back to the 1800's anyway, why not help them along a little.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
12. If your children have special needs the last place you should be leaving them is
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 03:47 PM
Jul 2014

at grocery story daycare. And if a parent can't possibly manage their child's temperament while grocery shopping what makes you believe that a free day care service in a grocery or shopping center will be any better at it? If a parent is unable to manage their child it would make them an even worse parent to go drop their problem off at the feet of someone else and say deal with it.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
13. That wasn't what I was addressing in my post, now was it?
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 04:39 PM
Jul 2014

I was addressing your comment about parents being unable to 'control' their children and your judgmental attitude towards them. That is all.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
15. So your post had absolutely nothing to do with my post then.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 04:56 PM
Jul 2014

Because I was specifically saying parents who are unable to control their children while shopping. Or to be precise the idea that Parents need daycare in a grocery store so they wont leave them locked in hot cars.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
16. LOL. You may want to re read the post I replied to
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 05:13 PM
Jul 2014

Says nothing about shopping in it, or even about controlling kids while shopping. It says that some people shouldn't have kids if they can't control them. Period, no 'shopping' caveat there. Maybe you should edit.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
17. No, people should start out with a plant.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jul 2014

Then graduate to a goldfish perhaps, and then maybe, maybe, maybe a dog.

I do animal rescue and we've actually told potential adoptors before that they might perhaps do this. We suggest this when their application and interview process reveal that they don't know anything about taking care of a living, breathing being.

I'd rather not use cats and dogs for parental training classes.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. I've never seen child care at Freddy's but that's a Union employer so their wages are probably
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jul 2014

a bit better than you'd think, they have a 75% retention rate. Just saying.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
8. It's called Playland and they are usually located by the Rest Rooms.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jul 2014

I am pretty sure all of them have them, well I don't remember seeing one at the Hawthorne location but as large as that one is I think it should.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. I used to pretend I have absolute knowledge of who should or should not be a parent too.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:47 PM
Jul 2014

"If you can't manage a grocery run with children you probably should not be a parent..."

I used to pretend I have absolute knowledge of who should or should not be a parent too.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
18. Did you read the joke books also? The ones that told parents how to
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 05:22 PM
Jul 2014

manage their children at all times so everything would be coming up roses? Those came after the joke books about what a pregnancy and delivery would be like.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
4. I appreciate the sentiment but......
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jul 2014

as another poster has noted...I wonder if parents who would simply forget they had the child in the car would remember to remove them and drop them off @ childcare.

I do believe we as a society need to be more supportive of families that includes more than just a bumper sticker. We need to ensure the fetus and mother receive appropriate pre-natal care. We need to ensure the infant (and the rest of the family) have a safe home, access to healthcare, sufficient funds to provide nutritious meals for their families, good, safe schools that turn out young people prepared for the challenges of today. A society that considers the need for paid maternity (shared with paternity) leave. A society that considers no parent should have to work 3 jobs to provide for their families. The list goes on and on.

That said, I believe where child care is provided it should be considered as a value add and paid for by the parents. Having a child or children is an awesome responsibility in ways too numerous to list. As someone who has chosen not to have children but do have dogs I don't expect a business to provide free dog care. If they were to provide that type of care I would expect to pay for it. The same should apply for parents of human children. It would be great to have child care available at more places such as large malls which have the volume to make such a service feasible but the cost needs to be born by the parents and not the public or the rest of the customers.

Retrograde

(10,132 posts)
10. IKEA has a childcare center in the local store
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 03:08 PM
Jul 2014

Don't know if it's free or not, but it's there to get parents to spend more time and money in the store.

Of course, parents can and sometimes do forget the kid in childcare!

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
19. I agree.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jul 2014

I doubt ours will be a popular viewpoint on DU, but as crowded as the larger grocery stores are in my city, it would be a big benefit to the populace at large if (when possible) either mom OR dad, and not mom, dad AND "x" number of children, did the grocery shopping.

I have nothing against children in general, but many children get cranky, tired and unruly at the grocery store.

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