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malaise

(267,823 posts)
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:20 PM Jul 2014

Four children 9-11 years old killed while playing on the shore

from Israeli shells

Remember it's their fault- watch and share that popcorn.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/16/witness-gaza-shelling-first-hand-account

Witness to a shelling: first-hand account of deadly strike on Gaza port
There is a deafening explosion, then a second. Four children are dead. Four survivors reach the safety of our hotel
Only afterwards do we discover there are four others who are dead, all children, lying on the wall. I am shown a picture of one of the dead boys, his skin scorched and bruised. Their names are released later: Ahed Bakr, aged 10; Zakaria, 10; and two other boys from the Bakr family, both named Mohammad, aged 11 and nine.

The second shell catches the survivors as they reach the brightly coloured tents. As it explodes, my colleagues, now standing by the terrace wall, shout at unseen Israeli gunners who can't hear them: "They are only children."

The man makes it to the terrace first, scrambling up a steep sandy bank. A skinny man in his 30s, he groans and holds up a T-shirt already staining red with blood where he has been hit in the stomach. He faints, and as he grows pale and limp he is carried to a taxi waved down in the street.

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Four children 9-11 years old killed while playing on the shore (Original Post) malaise Jul 2014 OP
No cause justifies the deaths of innocent people. Albert Camus Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #1
Little children on summer vacation malaise Jul 2014 #2
Yet, we humans like to tell ourselves that we're the pinnacle of the evolutionary scale. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #3
Something is wrong with our species ellenrr Jul 2014 #6
They are sick malaise Jul 2014 #7
Seriously. It's too depressing to contemplate. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #14
saw that report bigtree Jul 2014 #4
Because of the hotel malaise Jul 2014 #5
These things need to be witnessed. I don't care who the fuck is doing it, but they need to stop. uppityperson Jul 2014 #12
Shells sold by American companies and paid for with American Tax dollars CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #8
Good God (pardon the phrase) progressoid Jul 2014 #9
All sorts of games being played n2doc Jul 2014 #10
Saw that malaise Jul 2014 #18
All four of them alsame Jul 2014 #11
Blather, rinse, repeat gratuitous Jul 2014 #13
And isn't that the truth malaise Jul 2014 #15
The vivid reports on this attack chill me to the bone... countryjake Jul 2014 #16
I actually watched Regev malaise Jul 2014 #17
sad. always the innocent have to suffer... CTyankee Jul 2014 #19
Chris Hayes will be covering this in a few minutes malaise Jul 2014 #23
hi, malaise...I can't take too much more of this...murdered children are not my thing at all... CTyankee Jul 2014 #24
I told hubby earlier that I can't watch much more of this slaughter malaise Jul 2014 #28
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #20
ABC showed video of the actual event this evening on the news. Skidmore Jul 2014 #21
I'm sick of watching grown people defend the slaughter of children malaise Jul 2014 #22
I have a grandson and granddaughter the ages of Skidmore Jul 2014 #25
Where is the internatonal condemnation? malaise Jul 2014 #29
If it comes, it will only do so with weasel words skillfully woven together by Skidmore Jul 2014 #30
Has the U.S. State Department issued a statement? aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #31
Haven't seen or heard it malaise Jul 2014 #34
war crimes G_j Jul 2014 #26
They're only war crimes when not committed by the West malaise Jul 2014 #27
The propagandist in I/P claims those are "combat-age males".... HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #32
9-11? malaise Jul 2014 #33
Well, they can't use the alsame Jul 2014 #35
Not to mention that a beach isn't a military target. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #36

malaise

(267,823 posts)
2. Little children on summer vacation
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:27 PM
Jul 2014

We humans are worse than the worst animals - read that eyewitness report

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
3. Yet, we humans like to tell ourselves that we're the pinnacle of the evolutionary scale.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:28 PM
Jul 2014

Despite the obvious evidence to the contrary.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
6. Something is wrong with our species
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:32 PM
Jul 2014

I'm listening to an interview with Alex Perry on Fresh Air. Acc to him Boko Haram is Lord of the Flies on steroids + religious context. They kill only to kill, and they don't try to avoid death for themselves.

Perry describes a video in which the boko haram are advancing, and they are being shot at, and they don't try to avoid being killed.

They are young, acc. to him, badly educated, and not even able to think. "Boko Haram doesn't have logical reasons for the atrocities it commits." http://www.wnyc.org/story/nigerias-boko-haram-more-extreme-than-al-qaida-journalist-says/
(video at link).

He says what they really want is publicity, which the Bring back the Girls campaign gave them, but that if they had been boys they would have had their throats cut.

scary...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. Seriously. It's too depressing to contemplate.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jul 2014

Man's inhumanity to man has gone beyond what I could have ever imagined.

uppityperson

(115,674 posts)
12. These things need to be witnessed. I don't care who the fuck is doing it, but they need to stop.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 05:27 PM
Jul 2014

It needs to be witnessed and shown.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
8. Shells sold by American companies and paid for with American Tax dollars
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jul 2014

Oh and the blood of children.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
10. All sorts of games being played
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 03:47 PM
Jul 2014

Interesting article which states that Hamas was blindsided by the cease fire proposal, in a way that seems calculated to cause them to say no.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.605363

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. Blather, rinse, repeat
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 05:38 PM
Jul 2014

"Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel has the right to defend itself."

No, it's not germane to the slaughter of children, but it seems to comfort all the right people if it's said often enough. Not to mention that Israel will have to defend itself a lot to fend off the righteous anger and retribution that is the normal and natural consequence for their murderous actions.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
16. The vivid reports on this attack chill me to the bone...
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:22 PM
Jul 2014

meanwhile, some guy tells Wolf on CNN, (Regev, I think his name was), "We don't target children. There's obviously been a mistake".

Let me join you in

malaise

(267,823 posts)
17. I actually watched Regev
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:46 PM
Jul 2014

and had to puke.
Check out this inversion of reality.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/hamas-egypt-peace-plan-is-not-acceptable/26974982
Anger is rising over civilian deaths -- including those of four children killed while playing on the beach.

The boys, ages 9 to 11, died Wednesday when a shell from an Israeli gunship exploded near them at the Al-Shati refugee camp in northern Gaza, according to Palestinian officials.

An Israeli official said the shelling was another example of Hamas using civilians as human shields -- intimating that the boys had been left to play near a rocket launcher.

"What they are deliberately doing is seeking to kill as many Palestinians as possible in order to yell to the world to, 'Help us,' " Israeli Cabinet member Naftali Bennett told CNN. "This is cynical and this is cowardly."

CTyankee

(63,771 posts)
24. hi, malaise...I can't take too much more of this...murdered children are not my thing at all...
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 08:04 PM
Jul 2014

I'd best be off the internets for that one...

malaise

(267,823 posts)
28. I told hubby earlier that I can't watch much more of this slaughter
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 08:23 PM
Jul 2014

Thus shelling was from an Israeli ship...navy boats were seen...but 'we do not target children'.
What exactly were they targeting? We all want to know.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
21. ABC showed video of the actual event this evening on the news.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:53 PM
Jul 2014

Four little boys playing soccer on the beach. Chasing a ball. Laughing and running back and forth and then the sand exploded. They also briefly showed the children's bodies lined up in a row.

Dammit. Just stop it. So sick of people insisting that "because God said"... Enough. Are these enough deaths yet to make up for the deaths of the Israeli teens?

malaise

(267,823 posts)
22. I'm sick of watching grown people defend the slaughter of children
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:58 PM
Jul 2014

All children's lives have the same value in my word.

Damn I hate all religions.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
25. I have a grandson and granddaughter the ages of
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 08:06 PM
Jul 2014

a couple of those kids. They are the same age my daughter was when I was trying to get my kids out of post-revolutationary Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. There is no defense for what adults do to children in wars. There's no defense for what people are asking to be done with the child refugees on our borders right now just none. Any god that would be pleased with any of these horrific acts is not a god worth serving.

malaise

(267,823 posts)
27. They're only war crimes when not committed by the West
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 08:17 PM
Jul 2014

and their allies. An NBC reporter was kicking ball with those kids on the beach today - coming up on Chris Hayes after commercials.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
35. Well, they can't use the
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 09:13 PM
Jul 2014

'human shields' excuse this time because there were witnesses. With cameras. Ooops.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
36. Not to mention that a beach isn't a military target.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 09:59 PM
Jul 2014

Naval guns are quite accurrate. This wasn't a mistake. They deliberately targeted a recreational beach with civilians on it.

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