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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:06 PM Jul 2014

UB paid Hillary Clinton $275,000 for speech last fall

The University at Buffalo paid former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton $275,000 for her speech at Alumni Arena last fall, according to a copy of her speaking agency’s contract with the university, which was released today.

The nine-page contract stipulates that the “net honorarium” for the speech would go to the Clinton Foundation, which Clinton’s husband, former President Bill Clinton, founded after leaving the White House. But an unspecified sum would have gone to the Harry Walker Agency, which arranges the former secretary of state’s speaking arrangements.

No state or tuition funds were used to pay Clinton’s speaking fee, the university said in a statement. Instead, the UB Foundation paid for the speech as part of its annual Distinguished Speakers Series.

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The contract, which provides the most inside detail to date about Clinton’s lucrative speaking engagements, also shows that Clinton exerted a great deal of control over the details of the sold-out event at UB last Oct. 23.

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The contract, which provides the most inside detail to date about Clinton’s lucrative speaking engagements, also shows that Clinton exerted a great deal of control over the details of the sold-out event at UB last Oct. 23.

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UB paid Hillary Clinton $275,000 for speech last fall (Original Post) cali Jul 2014 OP
I find it literally amazing that when Guilianni ran not one word dsc Jul 2014 #1
Yup Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #5
who is stopping you? reddread Jul 2014 #7
why no one gave a ratass about that.....THIS is just another attempt to smear Hillary Clinton VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #14
oh please. let's not pretend that the criticism of Fooliani and the Grinch has ever been cali Jul 2014 #19
Go aheand and produce the media accounts dsc Jul 2014 #20
"Want Gingrich to speak? He needs ‘first class expenses’ and 2 bathrooms" PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #24
I dont expect better, not in todays climate, I expect the Dems randys1 Jul 2014 #27
"not one single solitary word" - not quite... PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #23
Hillary Clinton Says She’s Donated All University Speaking Fees Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #2
Hope she didn't use a lot of filler words, like "Um" and "uh" and "you know". TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #3
Yeah its only important when a woman gets speaking fees huh? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #4
Come on, it's ridiculous that a college is paying that much for anybody to come speak. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #6
Is this a commentary on College speaking fees.....or just those of Hillary Clinton? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #8
Speaking fees. I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton, but if I were a student, I'd be pissed at TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #10
You didn't write the OP did you? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #11
Nope. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #12
It wasn't the college or more specifically the university whistler162 Jul 2014 #30
I don't understand this argument LittleBlue Jul 2014 #38
You mean "UB paid Clinton Foundation $275,000 for speech last fall" frazzled Jul 2014 #9
If it (the fee) goes to a Foundation packman Jul 2014 #13
is it taxable to the recipient? THATS the point. reddread Jul 2014 #32
I wonder if she donated her speaking fees only as a response the criticism she received. pa28 Jul 2014 #15
She yearns to be President Aerows Jul 2014 #16
Um, most politicians yearn to be President. If Elizabeth Warren runs for President after just a few Metric System Jul 2014 #22
Horrible News! Not a chance in Hell that President Obama and Michelle will speak for money. onehandle Jul 2014 #17
I find it a bit unseemly. And the Clinton Foundation is troubled. cali Jul 2014 #21
My thoughts exactly. btw, Im curious 2 know wen Hillary decided 2 donate speakin fees 2 her Foundation, ie herself; only afta people complained? hmm InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #37
In America, someone traded a service for cash? conservaphobe Jul 2014 #18
I think this line of criticism of Hillary has run it's course - at least among Dems wyldwolf Jul 2014 #25
Supply/Demand - it's just basic economics for the colleges CincyDem Jul 2014 #26
I don't know how many more times it can be explained, but I will try one more time yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #36
I appreciate the extra, albeit unnecessary, explanation CincyDem Jul 2014 #40
How many here would turn down speaking fees? randys1 Jul 2014 #28
certainly not ... wyldwolf Jul 2014 #29
Someone please grab a screen shot and post it. Bernie Sanders too. KittyWampus Jul 2014 #35
Elizabeth Warren is not running for President in 2016 Peacetrain Jul 2014 #31
whose delicious quote is this? reddread Jul 2014 #33
Keep flogging that dead horse, Cali. Maybe your favorite band will play their next gig for free. KittyWampus Jul 2014 #34
I love how the Anti-Libertarian free marketeers are the first to defend this with: Bonobo Jul 2014 #39

dsc

(52,158 posts)
1. I find it literally amazing that when Guilianni ran not one word
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:09 PM
Jul 2014

not one single solitary word, was written about his speaking fees. When Gingrich ran, again, not one single solitary word. What about when Powell was being considered, yet again not one single solitary word. Yet now, all of the sudden, it is all we hear about. I wonder what could be different. Oh wait, I know, it's the return of the Clinton rules.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
7. who is stopping you?
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jul 2014

that Clinton Foundation scam ought to be outrageous enough.
by all means, please document Guliani and Gingrich's fees and speaking schedule.
there is plenty to learn from that, dont leave us hanging.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
14. why no one gave a ratass about that.....THIS is just another attempt to smear Hillary Clinton
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:21 PM
Jul 2014

a pathetic attempt at that....

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
19. oh please. let's not pretend that the criticism of Fooliani and the Grinch has ever been
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:34 PM
Jul 2014

anything but fucking scathing.

And yes, I expect better from dems.

dsc

(52,158 posts)
20. Go aheand and produce the media accounts
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:35 PM
Jul 2014

I would love to see them. I don't recall even one such article.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
24. "Want Gingrich to speak? He needs ‘first class expenses’ and 2 bathrooms"
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jul 2014

"Gingrich’s money-making and spending habits have become a central issue in the presidential race since he has risen to the top of the Republican field ahead of Mitt Romney."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/want-gingrich-to-speak-he-needs-first-class-expenses-and-2-bathrooms/2011/12/07/gIQAVZzFdO_story.html

randys1

(16,286 posts)
27. I dont expect better, not in todays climate, I expect the Dems
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:13 PM
Jul 2014

to not be as bad as the right and they arent, that is all i can expect until a viable 3rd party comes along or the country breaks up into 3 provinces...

I expect Rand Paul to nominate SC justices who would destroy what is left of America, which is why I will vote for Hillary if she is the candidate

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
2. Hillary Clinton Says She’s Donated All University Speaking Fees
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:10 PM
Jul 2014


Hillary Clinton continued to justify her high-dollar speaking fees on Friday, telling ABC News’ Ann Compton that all of the money she’s made from colleges over the past year and a half has been donated to her family’s foundation.

“All of the fees have been donated to the Clinton Foundation for it to continue its life-changing and life-saving work. So it goes from a foundation at a university to another foundation,” Clinton said when asked about the criticism she and her husband have faced recently for their wealth.

Hillary Clinton reportedly makes roughly $200,000 for each speaking engagement. And recent reports show that she has made much more from some of the country’s top universities.

Last week, students at the University of Nevada Las Vegas, where Clinton is scheduled to speak at a fundraiser in October, asked the former secretary of state to return her fee of $225,000 back to the university. If she does not, the students said they plan to protest her visit.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/07/hillary-clinton-says-shes-donated-all-university-speaking-fees/

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. Hope she didn't use a lot of filler words, like "Um" and "uh" and "you know".
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:10 PM
Jul 2014

Or worse, lots of "I'd like to thank the Board Of Trustees, the Provost..." or "I remember when Bill campaigned in Buffalo, we enjoyed the wings before they became famous" or other such inanities. Every word better have been a precious drop of gold, for that price.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
4. Yeah its only important when a woman gets speaking fees huh?
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:11 PM
Jul 2014

How much do you think Elizabeth Warren will or is getting? Nitpicking...

Not hatred AT ALL!

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
8. Is this a commentary on College speaking fees.....or just those of Hillary Clinton?
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:14 PM
Jul 2014

Come on yourself! Its rhetorical....its the posters favorite cause....

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
10. Speaking fees. I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton, but if I were a student, I'd be pissed at
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jul 2014

this sort of waste no matter who they were paying. Nobody's mere speech event is worth anywhere NEAR that much, no matter what the speaker does with the money afterward. I can understand paying a speaker enough to cover expenses and a bit more to make it worth someone's while to do it, but almost $300,000 is beyond excessive.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
11. You didn't write the OP did you?
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:18 PM
Jul 2014

believe me...it is most definitely NOT about how much that college paid anyone in speaking fees....Definitely not!

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
38. I don't understand this argument
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 09:15 PM
Jul 2014

People always respond this way in the Hillary threads.

The UB Foundation is Buffalo's endowment. Just like Harvard's endowment isn't called "Harvard University", it's called HMC. The endowment is part of the university, it's just put in a separate entity for business purposes.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. You mean "UB paid Clinton Foundation $275,000 for speech last fall"
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:15 PM
Jul 2014

Cause that's what it says in the article. (That a certain amount went to the Walker agency is normal: they do all the planning, scheduling, paperwork, etc., and, you know, they do have to pay staff to do that stuff; that's what "agents" do: they take a percentage.) Otherwise, it looks like Hillary Clinton got paid nothing.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
13. If it (the fee) goes to a Foundation
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jul 2014

is it tax-deductable to those who gave the money? If so, who is really paying whom?

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
32. is it taxable to the recipient? THATS the point.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:24 PM
Jul 2014

thats a two way street they are greasing for themselves, while people hail their good deeds.
jesus H christ.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
15. I wonder if she donated her speaking fees only as a response the criticism she received.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:29 PM
Jul 2014

If that's the case her donations look like more like damage control and less like "life saving and life changing" altruism.

As of last week she had not released any records to back up her claims.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/07/hillary-clinton-offers-no-documents-to-rebut-criticism-of-hefty-speaker-fees/

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
16. She yearns to be President
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:33 PM
Jul 2014

That's exactly why she will never get my support. It's a rough road to lead a nation - she thinks she's entitled to it. There are so many people that are better suited to lead our nation than Hillary Clinton.

Sorry, she doesn't have my support, and she never will.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
22. Um, most politicians yearn to be President. If Elizabeth Warren runs for President after just a few
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jul 2014

years in the national spotlight then what does that say about her ambitions? See how that can be turned around? It's all so silly.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
17. Horrible News! Not a chance in Hell that President Obama and Michelle will speak for money.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:33 PM
Jul 2014

Only people with the name Bush and Clinton will do this.

Heh.

Bookmark this thread.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. I find it a bit unseemly. And the Clinton Foundation is troubled.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:40 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/us/politics/unease-at-clinton-foundation-over-finances-and-ambitions.html?pagewanted=all

I would find this more palatable if she donated her speaking fees to an entity other than her own foundation. And it's not like it needs the money. There was an interesting article a couple of weeks ago about how here donated fees are penny ante stuff to the Clinton Foundation, whereas they'd make a real difference to some charitable organizations.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
37. My thoughts exactly. btw, Im curious 2 know wen Hillary decided 2 donate speakin fees 2 her Foundation, ie herself; only afta people complained? hmm
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 09:00 PM
Jul 2014
 

conservaphobe

(1,284 posts)
18. In America, someone traded a service for cash?
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:34 PM
Jul 2014

Jesus, what will they think of next...

Next thing you know... someone will knock on my door trying to sell me something I don't need.



wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
25. I think this line of criticism of Hillary has run it's course - at least among Dems
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:10 PM
Jul 2014

Oh, there are a few still harping on it. But yawn.

CincyDem

(6,353 posts)
26. Supply/Demand - it's just basic economics for the colleges
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:11 PM
Jul 2014

$275k. Let's see. That's about 4 years tuition for at most 2 kids.

These universities use their speakers list as a marketing tool for prospective students. With 5 kids going through college, we've seen just about every admissions school pitch east of the Mississippi and a fair number west too. In every one, there was some element of crowing about who comes to campus. (note: the most fun was leonard maltin's film class at USC...you NEVER knew who was going to just drop in...and many stars waited in line with the students...but I digress). They range from Condi Rice to Paul Volker to Jeb Bush to Russell Simmons to Cornell West to George Lucas etc etc etc. A litany of names all designed to have you believe that you're kid is going to be exposed to the best and the brightest.

IF, as a result of this marketing message they get just 2 more kids who are paying 100% for their education, then they're money ahead.

They're trying to ramp up demand for their seats.
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
36. I don't know how many more times it can be explained, but I will try one more time
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jul 2014

The foundation paid the money which is separate from the University. This has been discussed so many times. My only hope is that some were not part of the discussion previously.

CincyDem

(6,353 posts)
40. I appreciate the extra, albeit unnecessary, explanation
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 09:58 PM
Jul 2014

I know who paid the bill. I would respectfully submit, however, that the "independent" foundation is only independent for the purposes of legal status as a non-profit. Do you think for a moment that these foundations don't work day and night solely for the purpose of benefiting the brand name institution with whom their affiliated.

I can't imagine The Princeton Foundation investing money for the betterment of Harvard Students. And if you want to cleave California right down the San Andreas Fault - just suggest to the USC foundation that they do something to benefit UCLA (you LA folks know what I'm saying here, right?).

There's just enough Chinese fire wall between these foundations and the school to pass the IRS blush test and not an ounce more. The money didn't come from students or federal funds but the purpose of the money is to support the future of the institution.

The foundations also fund overseas study programs that are touted during the recruiting trips.
The foundations also fund special engineering internships featured in the recruiting trips.
The foundations sponsor student trips for dinner into the closest big city (our experience was into NYC from NJ).

I'm sure the foundations do a lot of things but a big part of their charter is to engage in activities that provide stature and salable benefits to the student body and their parents of their affiliated institution.

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
31. Elizabeth Warren is not running for President in 2016
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jul 2014
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/04/elizabeth-warren-im-not-running-for-president/

“I’m not running for president,” Warren told ABC News’ David Muir in an interview at her home in Cambridge, Mass.

Asked about a recent story that suggested she is “Hillary’s nightmare,” Warren said, “I don’t get who writes these headlines or what they’re about. I think there’s just kind of a pundit world out there.”

“Do you think Hillary Clinton would make a good president?” Muir asked.

“I think Hillary Clinton is terrific,” Warren said. “We gotta stay focused on these issues right now.”
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Bernie Sanders is an Independent.. and cannot run in the Democratic Party, unless he changes his party affiliation, and then he will be saddled with being part of a very large party.. good, bad, and indifferent

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The Clinton Foundation works very hard.. and if you are going to contribute to any charity, it only makes sense you are giving your speaking fees to one that carries your families name and one you work hard in

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reddread

(6,896 posts)
33. whose delicious quote is this?
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:26 PM
Jul 2014

"The Clinton Foundation works very hard.. and if you are going to contribute to any charity, it only makes sense you are giving your speaking fees to one that carries your families name and one you work hard in"

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
34. Keep flogging that dead horse, Cali. Maybe your favorite band will play their next gig for free.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:28 PM
Jul 2014

LOL

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
39. I love how the Anti-Libertarian free marketeers are the first to defend this with:
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 09:42 PM
Jul 2014

"Why shouldn't she get what she can!"
and "It's what the market bears!"

Etc.

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