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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 12:51 PM Jul 2014

I am a blonde. I am not dumb, I am not a GOP and I have no desire to work for Faux News

I suspect I'm not the only blonde (natural or dyed) here at DU.

I know we're getting to the point that we're all trying to be politically correct and lately it starts to get tedious. But here's the thing, it gets old when we hear about constantly that it's the 'Dumb Blonde' GOP representative who is saying crazy things or the 'Dumb Blonde' on Faux News trying to use her pretty looks to distract you from the misinformation she is spewing.

I mean when we criticized Michelle Bachmann no one here said 'Oooo what a dumb Brunette'. So why would we do that for that representative from North Carolina? Her dumbness has nothing to do with her hair color. It has to do with her whack choices probably overly influenced by a Church that says they follow Jesus but actually more follow Paul and the Old Testament. Her hair could be green, blue, orange, black or she could shave it all off and her statement would still be dumb.

I realize that over the decades there was always this perception that 'Blondes have more fun' - back in the 40s and 50s all the top pinup gals were 'blonde' like Betty Grable, Marilyn Monroe, Lana Turner, Veronica Lake etc etc. These women were talented but usually cast as the ditsy girl in movies. Over the decade somehow the perception that blondes are dumb became a regular way of life - that it was ok to tell 'dumb blonde' jokes because aren't all blondes dumb?

Maybe we're a society where we are running out of groups of people we can use as the butt of jokes. I know in my lifetime I've heard bad jokes offend just about every nationality out there but it's probably been at least the late 80s/90s when I last heard one (which is good!). Maybe some people think Dumb Blonde jokes are the last group of people that we can insult without criticism. I'm here to say otherwise!

But in the end this is a fact - we blondes are not dumb. Sure I do dumbass things from time to time but it has nothing to do with my hair color. It has to do with the fact that sometimes I do dumbass things that I really didn't mean to do.

So please remember this - when you insult blondes and call them 'Dumb' you are also calling Blonde DUers 'dumb' too. I think there are better ways to be critical of someone other than using tired old stereotypes.

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I am a blonde. I am not dumb, I am not a GOP and I have no desire to work for Faux News (Original Post) LynneSin Jul 2014 OP
Hear, hear! MoonchildCA Jul 2014 #1
I don't think it's tedious to be mindful and considerate redqueen Jul 2014 #2
I agree, redqueen. n/t Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #8
Love your post .Spot on. SummerSnow Jul 2014 #3
Also, why is it blonde women that are dumb, but not blonde men? CrispyQ Jul 2014 #4
Yes, interesting. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #11
See my post #12 below. nt tblue37 Jul 2014 #13
Think Dan Quayle. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #48
The use of cliched memes like that are symptoms MineralMan Jul 2014 #5
Maybe you see why some of us don't like upaloopa Jul 2014 #6
Point well taken LynneSin Jul 2014 #9
Blonde, here. madamesilverspurs Jul 2014 #7
well said oldandhappy Jul 2014 #10
Back in the 1980s, when dumb blonde jokes were all the rage, a tblue37 Jul 2014 #12
I use to have a reply when people told Dumb Blonde Jokes around me... LynneSin Jul 2014 #14
My favorite "Dumb Blonde Joke" csziggy Jul 2014 #36
Well, for what it's worth ... MH1 Jul 2014 #31
I love blondes! IronLionZion Jul 2014 #15
What a horrible post. redqueen Jul 2014 #18
Just an anecdotal observation, that's all. IronLionZion Jul 2014 #20
Yeah but why extrapolate that to other brunettes? redqueen Jul 2014 #22
I get your point. IronLionZion Jul 2014 #24
Sigh redqueen Jul 2014 #25
Whenever there are two ways to interpret something, IronLionZion Jul 2014 #38
Or as a blonde perhaps we are tired of being generalized LynneSin Jul 2014 #32
Agreed IronLionZion Jul 2014 #37
The mother to the antichrist is not a blonde BainsBane Jul 2014 #41
See post #28 IronLionZion Jul 2014 #47
I've never understood blonde jokes. Lunacee_2013 Jul 2014 #16
True story... pipi_k Jul 2014 #17
Oh yeah? Weil I AM and blonde and I AM a fucking moron Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #19
It's not tedious. LisaLynne Jul 2014 #21
I love redheads! IronLionZion Jul 2014 #28
Aw, thanks. LisaLynne Jul 2014 #29
You folks are gorgeous Aerows Jul 2014 #45
The very first time Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #42
No one loves redheads more than me Aerows Jul 2014 #44
Fox News USES stereotypes intentionally. JoePhilly Jul 2014 #23
They do and it's annoying... LynneSin Jul 2014 #33
Fake Fox Fakers!!! JoePhilly Jul 2014 #35
Smart blond here libodem Jul 2014 #26
I'm sure Michele Bachmann has been called dumb more than once here as Cleita Jul 2014 #27
I married a blonde and all I can say is... CincyDem Jul 2014 #30
Your daughter isn't amazing because she's blonde LynneSin Jul 2014 #34
Yep - amazing no matter what that's for sure. n/t CincyDem Jul 2014 #39
Another natural blonde. I got tombstoned in 2008 for objecting to a thread that made fun McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #40
Blonde here Aerows Jul 2014 #43
I SMH Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #46

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
2. I don't think it's tedious to be mindful and considerate
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 12:55 PM
Jul 2014

IMO it's very easy to drop unnecessary, hurtful sayings which do nothing but reinforce stereotypes.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. Yes, interesting.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 11:08 PM
Jul 2014

As a blonde woman with a genius level IQ, I take offense to this ridiculous meme. Why aren't men judged by their hair color?

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
5. The use of cliched memes like that are symptoms
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 12:57 PM
Jul 2014

of too little thought before pressing keys on a keyboard. It's true that Fox News tends to hire attractive blonde women as news readers, but so do most TV stations. That the people who read the news on Fox are not the brightest bulbs has nothing to do with their hair color, but people who don't think before they write just use the most convenient cliche they can find to express themselves.

Good post! K&R.

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
7. Blonde, here.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:25 PM
Jul 2014

At least, I used to be. I've gotten lighter, but some shades of gray have that effect.

Just for fun: In the fourth grade I learned that 'blonde' refers to girls, 'blond' refers to boys. Didn't find out why until the first of three years of French I in junior high school; yes, I said three years of French I, but that had nothing to do with my being blonde. Really.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
10. well said
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 03:22 PM
Jul 2014

Thank you

And I have to admit I am kind taken with the green hair idea! Forgive me. Made me laugh.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
12. Back in the 1980s, when dumb blonde jokes were all the rage, a
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:10 AM
Jul 2014

friend of my then teenaged son told one of those jokes in my presence. I couldn't resist pointing out to him--and to all of the other boys in the group--that he was also blond. Oddly enough, he had not considered that detail at all when sharing the joke.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
14. I use to have a reply when people told Dumb Blonde Jokes around me...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:42 AM
Jul 2014

Why did the Brunette tell dumb blonde jokes?

Because they had nothing else going on with their lives.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
36. My favorite "Dumb Blonde Joke"
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 03:15 PM
Jul 2014

One day a blonde woman came into a New York bank and asked for a short term loan for $5000 on her Jaguar. The loan officer checked into her credit, which was excellent, and into the title of the car, which was clean, and agreed to loan her the money for 30 days if she left the car in the possession of the bank. She agreed to that stipulation and left with the cash.

The loan officer and other bankers joked about the "dumb blonde" who gave up the use of her car for a small loan that she obviously didn't need, then put the car into the bank parking lot and didn't think about it for a few weeks.

Four weeks later, the blonde returned, handed back the $5000 still in the original bank bands and the interest for the money. As the loan officer closed out the loan and handed her car keys back, he asked her why she had gotten the loan. She told him, "I went to Europe on vacation. Since the bank was holding the car as collateral, I knew the bank would keep the car secure. To leave my car in secure parking for the four weeks would have cost me much more than this loan did."

Some dumb blonde!

This is the only "dumb blonde joke" I ever tell.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
31. Well, for what it's worth ...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jul 2014

... but first let me say I agree with the OP ....

Ok now that's out of the way: In my observation, in these "jokes" the phrase "dumb blonde" is just shorthand for "person way too well-favored in the looks department who never had to actually learn anything because they get by on their looks alone".


Therefore, "dumb blonde" does NOT refer to all blondes, just the really good-looking and simultaneously stupid ones.

That said, since it is so easily and so often misconstrued, just better not to use it. Even people who seem to meet the more nuanced description I just gave, sometimes actually do dumb things for the same reasons that we all sometimes do dumb things, and not because of their looks-linked dumbness.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
15. I love blondes!
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 10:16 AM
Jul 2014


Actually, I personally know friends who claimed they had more professional success after dying their hair blonde: newscasters, dancers, servers, flight attendants, etc.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/abefg/18-stunning-facts-about-blonds

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/01/blondes-interesting-facts-video-buzzfeed_n_5548190.html

http://www.buzzfeed.com/aj8/21-assumptions-people-make-about-blondes-cfe3

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tabathaleggett/problems-only-blondes-can-relate-to

Plus Hillary, and Elizabeth Warren and lots of other smart Dems are blonde.

I have another theory about why people make jokes about blondes. Its because many blondes tend to be sweet and friendly and not be bothered by such things. If someone said those things about a brunette, she would punish them brutally. I had a brunette girlfriend before who held a lot of contempt for blondes. It didn't seem rational at all, it was probably jealousy.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
18. What a horrible post.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jul 2014

Eurocentric beauty standards mean that yes, blondes are probably more successful. It's about as meaningful or worthy of celebrating as the fact that tall people tend to be more successful.

If someone said those things about a brunette, she would punish them brutally. I had a brunette girlfriend before who held a lot of contempt for blondes. It didn't seem rational at all, it was probably jealousy.


Do you really not see what's wrong with that?

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
20. Just an anecdotal observation, that's all.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:31 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Fri Jul 18, 2014, 03:15 PM - Edit history (1)

The individual I was talking about was an extremely unusual person. She would even refer to herself as an "alpha female" who wouldn't hesitate to destroy others she deemed inferior to take what she wants.

I certainly wasn't claiming everyone would be like that. That would be horrible.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
22. Yeah but why extrapolate that to other brunettes?
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:42 AM
Jul 2014

'If someone said that about a brunette, she would probably...'

?

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
24. I get your point.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jul 2014

There doesn't seem to be much generalization about brunettes though. Maybe brunettes might be behind the promotion of blonde stereotypes.

Are you brunette?

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
38. Whenever there are two ways to interpret something,
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 03:35 PM
Jul 2014

if one of them makes you sad or angry, I meant the other one.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
32. Or as a blonde perhaps we are tired of being generalized
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 02:55 PM
Jul 2014

I know you meant well but you kinda went against what I was saying

Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren aren't successful because they are blonde, they are successful because they are strong independent woman - hair color has nothing to do with it.

Lunacee_2013

(529 posts)
16. I've never understood blonde jokes.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 10:33 AM
Jul 2014

WTF does hair color have to do with intelligence anyways? As for the "politically correct" issue, that's simply being polite and calling people what they want to be called. When people complain about the "p.c. police" what I usually hear is "I want to act like a bigoted asshole without anyone calling me out on it".

ETA: I'm not a blonde myself. My hair is mostly light-to-medium brown, but it does have a noticeable blonde streak in the front. People ask me if I dyed it, but it's just naturally colored that way.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
17. True story...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:06 AM
Jul 2014

I haven't bothered coloring my hair in a long time, but for years I did, starting at the age of 14.

It's been just about every natural color there is, including platinum blonde. My own color is sort of a dirty dishwater bleh color, so...yeah...I colored it.

Anyway, what I discovered. I got treated WAY differently when my hair was blonde than when it was colored brown or black. By men and women.

It was sort of, I dunno....contemptuous. Like I was stupid or something.


Oh, and a bit on the famous, "Bubble-headed bleach blonde" line from the song, "Dirty Laundry"...

There's a local channel where one of the anchorwomen is a brunette, and she's dumber than a box of rocks. Her occasional co-anchor is blonde and looks like Einstein in comparison.

Hair color...it's only root deep.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
19. Oh yeah? Weil I AM and blonde and I AM a fucking moron
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:17 AM
Jul 2014

So, you see, if this were cable news, I would be invited to come on the show and argue that all blondes are idiots in the name of "balance."

Full Disclosure: Not Actually a Blonde
Full Disclosure: Actually a Fucking Moron

LisaLynne

(14,554 posts)
21. It's not tedious.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:41 AM
Jul 2014

Especially with Faux New people, what we object to is not the color of their hair, but the contents of their alleged brains!

I do understand -- I'm a redhead and all the ginger talk really gets to me sometimes.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
42. The very first time
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 08:50 PM
Jul 2014

"I do understand -- I'm a redhead and all the ginger talk really gets to me sometimes."

I heard the term "ginger" was on a South Park episode several years ago, and ever since then, it seems like there have been a ton of people using that word. It spread like wildfire.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
23. Fox News USES stereotypes intentionally.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:47 AM
Jul 2014

In this case they are using attractive, nearly interchangeable blondes for their sex appeal with the older white male demo graphic.

Those women aren't dumb, well most of them aren't, and they know exactly what their job is. Speak to that old white guy, keep him watching.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
33. They do and it's annoying...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 02:57 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Fri Jul 18, 2014, 03:30 PM - Edit history (1)

and most of them probably aren't natural blondes either which really bugs me.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
26. Smart blond here
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:00 PM
Jul 2014

I used to be cute and skinny, too. One of my brunette friends who managed a production line in the 80's complained in front of me that she didn't like to work with blonds as well as dark haired workers. Who knows?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
27. I'm sure Michele Bachmann has been called dumb more than once here as
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:25 PM
Jul 2014

has Sarah Palin. Instead of the blonde noun, I think the word ass has been attached to the aforementioned ladies as in dumbass. Brunette is clumsier to say than blonde is all. I suggest we call all dumbasses just that, regardless of hair color or gender. We shouldn't pick on people because of their appearance.

CincyDem

(6,355 posts)
30. I married a blonde and all I can say is...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 12:43 PM
Jul 2014


...I married up in every possible way.

Our daughter is blonde. I suspect that if I ever used the phrase around her I would find my left foot firmly planted about 12 inches up my butt. And it would take her about 8 seconds to make it happen. LOL

More seriously, this is such a damning phrase for women, particularly young girls, to hear because it starts them down the path of directly connecting how they look to who they are. Nothing good can ever come from that.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
34. Your daughter isn't amazing because she's blonde
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jul 2014

She'd be amazing even if she shaved her head or was born with green hair.

But you are right, I was hearing dumb blonde jokes since I was 3 years old and my firey red hair suddenly turned pale blonde. And it gets to a person afterwhile because people made me feel bad about my blonde hair that I was some sort of 'dummy' (which btw I had very good grades in school yet all I could think about was how kids called me a dumb blonde).

Looking back I realized these were kids that were just jealous and wanted a way to put me down. But it got old and tiresome that's for sure.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
40. Another natural blonde. I got tombstoned in 2008 for objecting to a thread that made fun
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 06:45 PM
Jul 2014

of Hillary for being blond. I think it sucks that at DU it is ok to mock blond women. This is sexism. It is the worst kind of sexism. I have always been the smartest person in any room where I have ever been. And I have had to prove myself over and over again to a bunch of idiots---men and brunette women who assume that because I am short and blond that I am bimbo. It gets real old real fast. And sometimes, in the medical profession, it can get dangerous, when some other health care provider decides not to listen because "What does she know? She's just a dumb blond." Not so bad now that I am over 50 and look grandmotherly, but it was a real problem when I was in my 20s and 30s.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
46. I SMH
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 09:28 PM
Jul 2014

at phrases such as "dumb blonde". The average person knows full well that one's hair color does not affect their intelligence, plus that phrase just sounds corny and uncreative, anyway (much like many other insults for other groups of people). The "dumb blonde" phrase has been around for ages.
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