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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am a blonde. I am not dumb, I am not a GOP and I have no desire to work for Faux News
I suspect I'm not the only blonde (natural or dyed) here at DU.
I know we're getting to the point that we're all trying to be politically correct and lately it starts to get tedious. But here's the thing, it gets old when we hear about constantly that it's the 'Dumb Blonde' GOP representative who is saying crazy things or the 'Dumb Blonde' on Faux News trying to use her pretty looks to distract you from the misinformation she is spewing.
I mean when we criticized Michelle Bachmann no one here said 'Oooo what a dumb Brunette'. So why would we do that for that representative from North Carolina? Her dumbness has nothing to do with her hair color. It has to do with her whack choices probably overly influenced by a Church that says they follow Jesus but actually more follow Paul and the Old Testament. Her hair could be green, blue, orange, black or she could shave it all off and her statement would still be dumb.
I realize that over the decades there was always this perception that 'Blondes have more fun' - back in the 40s and 50s all the top pinup gals were 'blonde' like Betty Grable, Marilyn Monroe, Lana Turner, Veronica Lake etc etc. These women were talented but usually cast as the ditsy girl in movies. Over the decade somehow the perception that blondes are dumb became a regular way of life - that it was ok to tell 'dumb blonde' jokes because aren't all blondes dumb?
Maybe we're a society where we are running out of groups of people we can use as the butt of jokes. I know in my lifetime I've heard bad jokes offend just about every nationality out there but it's probably been at least the late 80s/90s when I last heard one (which is good!). Maybe some people think Dumb Blonde jokes are the last group of people that we can insult without criticism. I'm here to say otherwise!
But in the end this is a fact - we blondes are not dumb. Sure I do dumbass things from time to time but it has nothing to do with my hair color. It has to do with the fact that sometimes I do dumbass things that I really didn't mean to do.
So please remember this - when you insult blondes and call them 'Dumb' you are also calling Blonde DUers 'dumb' too. I think there are better ways to be critical of someone other than using tired old stereotypes.
MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)I cringe every time I see that. Thanks for posting. I hope this gets recs.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)IMO it's very easy to drop unnecessary, hurtful sayings which do nothing but reinforce stereotypes.
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)CrispyQ
(36,460 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)As a blonde woman with a genius level IQ, I take offense to this ridiculous meme. Why aren't men judged by their hair color?
tblue37
(65,336 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)of too little thought before pressing keys on a keyboard. It's true that Fox News tends to hire attractive blonde women as news readers, but so do most TV stations. That the people who read the news on Fox are not the brightest bulbs has nothing to do with their hair color, but people who don't think before they write just use the most convenient cliche they can find to express themselves.
Good post! K&R.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)the old white male thingy either
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,800 posts)At least, I used to be. I've gotten lighter, but some shades of gray have that effect.
Just for fun: In the fourth grade I learned that 'blonde' refers to girls, 'blond' refers to boys. Didn't find out why until the first of three years of French I in junior high school; yes, I said three years of French I, but that had nothing to do with my being blonde. Really.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Thank you
And I have to admit I am kind taken with the green hair idea! Forgive me. Made me laugh.
tblue37
(65,336 posts)friend of my then teenaged son told one of those jokes in my presence. I couldn't resist pointing out to him--and to all of the other boys in the group--that he was also blond. Oddly enough, he had not considered that detail at all when sharing the joke.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Why did the Brunette tell dumb blonde jokes?
Because they had nothing else going on with their lives.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)One day a blonde woman came into a New York bank and asked for a short term loan for $5000 on her Jaguar. The loan officer checked into her credit, which was excellent, and into the title of the car, which was clean, and agreed to loan her the money for 30 days if she left the car in the possession of the bank. She agreed to that stipulation and left with the cash.
The loan officer and other bankers joked about the "dumb blonde" who gave up the use of her car for a small loan that she obviously didn't need, then put the car into the bank parking lot and didn't think about it for a few weeks.
Four weeks later, the blonde returned, handed back the $5000 still in the original bank bands and the interest for the money. As the loan officer closed out the loan and handed her car keys back, he asked her why she had gotten the loan. She told him, "I went to Europe on vacation. Since the bank was holding the car as collateral, I knew the bank would keep the car secure. To leave my car in secure parking for the four weeks would have cost me much more than this loan did."
Some dumb blonde!
This is the only "dumb blonde joke" I ever tell.
MH1
(17,600 posts)... but first let me say I agree with the OP ....
Ok now that's out of the way: In my observation, in these "jokes" the phrase "dumb blonde" is just shorthand for "person way too well-favored in the looks department who never had to actually learn anything because they get by on their looks alone".
Therefore, "dumb blonde" does NOT refer to all blondes, just the really good-looking and simultaneously stupid ones.
That said, since it is so easily and so often misconstrued, just better not to use it. Even people who seem to meet the more nuanced description I just gave, sometimes actually do dumb things for the same reasons that we all sometimes do dumb things, and not because of their looks-linked dumbness.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Actually, I personally know friends who claimed they had more professional success after dying their hair blonde: newscasters, dancers, servers, flight attendants, etc.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/abefg/18-stunning-facts-about-blonds
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/01/blondes-interesting-facts-video-buzzfeed_n_5548190.html
http://www.buzzfeed.com/aj8/21-assumptions-people-make-about-blondes-cfe3
http://www.buzzfeed.com/tabathaleggett/problems-only-blondes-can-relate-to
Plus Hillary, and Elizabeth Warren and lots of other smart Dems are blonde.
I have another theory about why people make jokes about blondes. Its because many blondes tend to be sweet and friendly and not be bothered by such things. If someone said those things about a brunette, she would punish them brutally. I had a brunette girlfriend before who held a lot of contempt for blondes. It didn't seem rational at all, it was probably jealousy.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Eurocentric beauty standards mean that yes, blondes are probably more successful. It's about as meaningful or worthy of celebrating as the fact that tall people tend to be more successful.
Do you really not see what's wrong with that?
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 18, 2014, 03:15 PM - Edit history (1)
The individual I was talking about was an extremely unusual person. She would even refer to herself as an "alpha female" who wouldn't hesitate to destroy others she deemed inferior to take what she wants.
I certainly wasn't claiming everyone would be like that. That would be horrible.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)'If someone said that about a brunette, she would probably...'
?
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)There doesn't seem to be much generalization about brunettes though. Maybe brunettes might be behind the promotion of blonde stereotypes.
Are you brunette?
redqueen
(115,103 posts)I don't know if you're trying to be funny or what but I'm done here.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)if one of them makes you sad or angry, I meant the other one.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I know you meant well but you kinda went against what I was saying
Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren aren't successful because they are blonde, they are successful because they are strong independent woman - hair color has nothing to do with it.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)BainsBane
(53,031 posts)FYI.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Lunacee_2013
(529 posts)WTF does hair color have to do with intelligence anyways? As for the "politically correct" issue, that's simply being polite and calling people what they want to be called. When people complain about the "p.c. police" what I usually hear is "I want to act like a bigoted asshole without anyone calling me out on it".
ETA: I'm not a blonde myself. My hair is mostly light-to-medium brown, but it does have a noticeable blonde streak in the front. People ask me if I dyed it, but it's just naturally colored that way.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)I haven't bothered coloring my hair in a long time, but for years I did, starting at the age of 14.
It's been just about every natural color there is, including platinum blonde. My own color is sort of a dirty dishwater bleh color, so...yeah...I colored it.
Anyway, what I discovered. I got treated WAY differently when my hair was blonde than when it was colored brown or black. By men and women.
It was sort of, I dunno....contemptuous. Like I was stupid or something.
Oh, and a bit on the famous, "Bubble-headed bleach blonde" line from the song, "Dirty Laundry"...
There's a local channel where one of the anchorwomen is a brunette, and she's dumber than a box of rocks. Her occasional co-anchor is blonde and looks like Einstein in comparison.
Hair color...it's only root deep.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)So, you see, if this were cable news, I would be invited to come on the show and argue that all blondes are idiots in the name of "balance."
Full Disclosure: Not Actually a Blonde
Full Disclosure: Actually a Fucking Moron
LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)Especially with Faux New people, what we object to is not the color of their hair, but the contents of their alleged brains!
I do understand -- I'm a redhead and all the ginger talk really gets to me sometimes.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I've never met a woman with red hair that I didn't like .
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)"I do understand -- I'm a redhead and all the ginger talk really gets to me sometimes."
I heard the term "ginger" was on a South Park episode several years ago, and ever since then, it seems like there have been a ton of people using that word. It spread like wildfire.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)In this case they are using attractive, nearly interchangeable blondes for their sex appeal with the older white male demo graphic.
Those women aren't dumb, well most of them aren't, and they know exactly what their job is. Speak to that old white guy, keep him watching.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 18, 2014, 03:30 PM - Edit history (1)
and most of them probably aren't natural blondes either which really bugs me.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)I used to be cute and skinny, too. One of my brunette friends who managed a production line in the 80's complained in front of me that she didn't like to work with blonds as well as dark haired workers. Who knows?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)has Sarah Palin. Instead of the blonde noun, I think the word ass has been attached to the aforementioned ladies as in dumbass. Brunette is clumsier to say than blonde is all. I suggest we call all dumbasses just that, regardless of hair color or gender. We shouldn't pick on people because of their appearance.
CincyDem
(6,355 posts)...I married up in every possible way.
Our daughter is blonde. I suspect that if I ever used the phrase around her I would find my left foot firmly planted about 12 inches up my butt. And it would take her about 8 seconds to make it happen. LOL
More seriously, this is such a damning phrase for women, particularly young girls, to hear because it starts them down the path of directly connecting how they look to who they are. Nothing good can ever come from that.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)She'd be amazing even if she shaved her head or was born with green hair.
But you are right, I was hearing dumb blonde jokes since I was 3 years old and my firey red hair suddenly turned pale blonde. And it gets to a person afterwhile because people made me feel bad about my blonde hair that I was some sort of 'dummy' (which btw I had very good grades in school yet all I could think about was how kids called me a dumb blonde).
Looking back I realized these were kids that were just jealous and wanted a way to put me down. But it got old and tiresome that's for sure.
CincyDem
(6,355 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)of Hillary for being blond. I think it sucks that at DU it is ok to mock blond women. This is sexism. It is the worst kind of sexism. I have always been the smartest person in any room where I have ever been. And I have had to prove myself over and over again to a bunch of idiots---men and brunette women who assume that because I am short and blond that I am bimbo. It gets real old real fast. And sometimes, in the medical profession, it can get dangerous, when some other health care provider decides not to listen because "What does she know? She's just a dumb blond." Not so bad now that I am over 50 and look grandmotherly, but it was a real problem when I was in my 20s and 30s.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I challenge those that are willing to call me dumb to say it to my face.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)at phrases such as "dumb blonde". The average person knows full well that one's hair color does not affect their intelligence, plus that phrase just sounds corny and uncreative, anyway (much like many other insults for other groups of people). The "dumb blonde" phrase has been around for ages.
The people who should read this thread are most likely not on DU, and even if they were to read it, they may not care.