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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:27 PM Jul 2014

Obama Points to Pro-Russia Separatists in Downing of Malaysian Airlines Plane

WASHINGTON — President Obama said Friday that the United States believed the Malaysia Airlines jetliner felled over eastern Ukraine was shot down by a surface-to-air missile from an area inside Ukraine controlled by Russian-backed separatists.

Mr. Obama’s remarks at the White House were the strongest public suggestions yet from the United States over who was responsible for the downing of the jetliner, which exploded, crashed and burned on Thursday on farmland in eastern Ukraine, killing all 298 people aboard.

Mr. Obama said the loss of life was an “outrage of unspeakable proportions” and a “global tragedy.” He vowed to investigate exactly what happened to end the lives of “men, women, children, infants who had nothing to do with the crisis” in that region. He also said that at least one American was among the dead.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-plane-ukraine.html?_r=0

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Obama Points to Pro-Russia Separatists in Downing of Malaysian Airlines Plane (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 OP
It's getting more and more difficult to sell the Putin propaganda. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #1
Hell, Sir: Already, The Fellas Are Just Giving It Away.... The Magistrate Jul 2014 #2
. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #3
LOL! William769 Jul 2014 #13
You, Sir, are a keeper! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #15
It seems the pro Putin faction here on DU IronGate Jul 2014 #4
I don't understand how someone can be pro-Putin justiceischeap Jul 2014 #6
Because the alternative is Palin.. IDemo Jul 2014 #14
Palin would be the Russian President? justiceischeap Jul 2014 #17
See: "sarchasm" IDemo Jul 2014 #18
Yup Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #7
Maybe they'll run off and start a PutinUnderground site. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #8
LOL. IronGate Jul 2014 #10
On another website I frequent, the pseudo-intellectuals always post RT and PressTV links. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #12
One in particular. Couldn't shut her up initially, now seems to have vanished into thin air. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #16
Because that's what happened. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #5
More: High-tech spycraft tracked missile's path to Malaysia Airlines jet Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #9
Exactly. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #11
Cheers! R3druM Jul 2014 #19
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
1. It's getting more and more difficult to sell the Putin propaganda.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jul 2014

The evidence that the separatists are responsible continues to mount.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
4. It seems the pro Putin faction here on DU
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:35 PM
Jul 2014

are getting quieter and quieter as more and more info comes out as to who is responsible for this tragedy.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
6. I don't understand how someone can be pro-Putin
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:36 PM
Jul 2014

I mean, I get that Putin is pro-Putin but why any Democrat worth their salt would be is beyond me.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
7. Yup
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:36 PM
Jul 2014

It's sad how an imperialistic, homophobic piece of shit like Putin actually has a fan club here.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
8. Maybe they'll run off and start a PutinUnderground site.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jul 2014

The only allowable source for anything will be RT, of course.

 

conservaphobe

(1,284 posts)
5. Because that's what happened.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:36 PM
Jul 2014

I reiterate what got me hidden in another thread:

Anyone who believes Ukraine shot down that plane is a useful idiot.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
9. More: High-tech spycraft tracked missile's path to Malaysia Airlines jet
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 01:39 PM
Jul 2014

Seems like it would be pretty easy for the US/NATO to identify and track this kind of missile, but that still wouldn't explain who actually fired the missile:

By Ralph Vartabedian, W.J. Hennigan

Advanced U.S. satellites played a key role in the determination by intelligence officials that a surface-to-air missile shot down a Malaysian jetliner over Ukraine on Thursday.

The assessment was almost certainly based on a technical branch of spycraft known as measurement and signature intelligence, or MASINT, analysts said. The method detects, tracks and identifies a variety of electronic signatures, including radar.

The U.S. operates fleets of listening satellites and early warning satellites that could have identified the location of a missile launch site and its trajectory as it shot up to the 33,000-foot cruising altitude of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777.

The Pentagon would have detected the launch because of its heat signature, said Riki Ellison, founder and chairman of Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance, a group that lobbies for missile defense spending.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-fg-satellites-ukraine-missile-20140717-story.html
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