My Outline for a Solution for Gaza: By Moshe Feiglin

[Violet_Crumble]

Ultimatum – One warning from the Prime Minister of Israel to the enemy population, in which he announces that Israel is about to attack military targets in their area and urges those who are not involved and do not wish to be harmed to leave immediately. Sinai is not far from Gaza and they can leave. This will be the limit of Israel’s humanitarian efforts. Hamas may unconditionally surrender and prevent the attack.

2.Attack – Attack of the entire ‘target bank’ throughout the Gaza Strip with the IDF’s maximum force (and not a tiny fraction of it) with all the conventional means at its disposal. All the military and infrastructural targets will be attacked with no consideration for ‘human shields’ or ‘environmental damage’. It is enough that we are hitting exact targets and that we gave them advance warning.

3.Siege – Parallel to the above, a total siege on Gaza. Nothing will enter the Strip. Israel, however, will allow exit from Gaza. (Civilians may go to Sinai, fighters may surrender to IDF forces).

4.Defense – Any place from which Israel or Israel’s forces were attacked will be immediately attacked with full force and no consideration for ‘human shields’ or ‘environmental damage’.

5.Conquer – After the IDF will complete the softening of the targets with its aerial and long distance fire-power, it will send in infantry to conquer the entire Gaza Strip, using all the means necessary to minimize any harm to our soldiers, with no other considerations.

http://www.jewishisrael.org/outline-solution-israels-gaza-problem-moshe-feiglin/?utm_source=Moshe%20Feiglin%27s%20Outline%20for%20Solution%20in%20Gaza&utm_campaign=update&utm_medium=email

This isn't some marginal Israeli politician, btw. This is the Deputy Speaker of the Knesset...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Feiglin

[geek tragedy]

1. He does seem to where the trend is heading.

Two- state solution is a no-go, since Israel refuses to even consider ending the occupation as part of any negotiations.

With that, it's either give the Palestinians the right to vote, institute formal apartheid, or Milosevic-style ethnic cleansing.

[jaysunb]

2. Pure evil.....

"using all the means necessary to minimize any harm to our soldiers, with no other considerations."

[Jackpine Radical]

3. A modest, measured response that really ought to solve the problem once and for all.

Nothing in it about salting the earth, though. But of course that would only make it difficult for the incoming settlements.

[awoke_in_2003]

9. That would be funny

if it weren't so close to the truth.

[BillZBubb]

4. And they call Hamas evil?

Lots of Israeli lunatics too.

[herding cats]

5. He is despicable.

Period. This isn't a viable option or under any pretense an outline for a solution. It's a call to murder an entire people by some rabid fool.

I'm currently attempting to educate myself on the ongoing conflict in the region and try not to voice my uneducated opinions because I'm too unsure of myself. In this one case, I'm confident his views are not helpful to either side.

[bravenak]

6. And I fear this will be applauded by some in our nation.

Right wing evil on display.

[GeorgeGist]

7. Sounds like a Dick Cheney disciple.

Pure undisciplined evil.

[LeftishBrit]

21. Indeed, with a bit of Pat Robertson thrown in

He is a religious loony (unlike most members of the main Israeli parties) as well as an ultra-nationalist loony.

[jeff47]

8. I like how he "solves" the civilian problem by having the civilians

cross the border with Egypt.

The closed border with Egypt.

The closed border with Egypt that is guarded by the Egyptian military.

What a monumental dumbass.

[Jackpine Radical]

11. Not a dumbass at all.

He knows exactly what he's proposing. A final solution to the nagging Palestinian problem.

[XemaSab]

13. The closed border with Egypt that is guarded by the Egyptian military

and on the other side of which is a sparsely populated wasteland.

https://www.google.com/maps/@31.2898673,34.2586506,85603m/data=!3m1!1e3

[JI7]

10. so his position is like boehner/cantor in the US ?

[Jackpine Radical]

12. That thought must have been crossing my mind at the exact time you were typing it.

[GoneFishin]

14. And the true end game : "Subsequent to the elimination of terror from Gaza, it will become part of

sovereign Israel and will be populated by Jews. "

Which is what all of the bulldozing, bombing, collective punishment, deprivation of medical supplies, the blockade etc .. are really all about. The eventual complete takeover of all Palestinian land.

[Comrade Grumpy]

15. What's he got on his arm band? I can almost make it out...

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

16. so he's pro ethnic cleansing

Barbaric. Evil.

[defacto7]

17. Or...

Just pull out a couple neutron bombs. That will kill everything that lives and leave the structures for future use.

If the solution is going to be ugly, might as well make it as ugly as possible, and this idea isn't far from the posed solution.

[Comrade Grumpy]

18. I'm surprised some of stalwart defenders of Israel haven't popped up to justify this.

Or maybe it's a little too blatant even for them.

[LeftishBrit]

20. A true 'stalwart defender of Israel' should oppose Feiglin more than anyone

People like him in the political system are the rot in the root; a greater threat to Israeli democracy than an acknowledged enemy could be.

[LeftishBrit]

19. Moshe Feiglin is such a hate-merchant that the UK won't let him even visit

(Some would say this is hypocritical when we don't ban the BNP; but anyway it's one example of how extreme he is.)


He is a sick evil man, and a disgrace to humanity.

[Behind the Aegis]

22. You are correct.

But, there are those who hold him up as an example of ALL Israel or supporters of Israel; it makes their hate of Israel, even Jews, palatable. He is as representative of Israel as Gohmert, Bachman, and others are of the US, meaning, yes, they do represent some, but it is almost always the most hostile, right-wing, and extremist version of the country.

[cali]

24. but what Violet pointed out is true: He's not some marginal figure and it was Netanyahu

who appointed him as deputy speaker. He has more power than a Gohmert or Bachman and he does represent the ruling party- or a significant piece of it- or Netanyahu would not have appointed him.

[Behind the Aegis]

25. I didn't debate that point.

But to pretend he represents all Israelis or even most, is bullshit. To pretend his rhetoric is acceptable to pro-Israel people is as full of shit as pretending that being for a Palestinian nation is being supportive of Hamas.

[cali]

26. absolutely. we completely agree on that.

[Behind the Aegis]

27. I figured as much.

I saw some of the comments about you being a "Hamas supporter." You and I don't' always agree on I/P, but there are actual Hamas supporters here, as well as anti-Semites, and you are neither! We shouldn't let too many know we are in agreement, it could be bad for us both!

[cali]

28. thanks. we should let lots of people here know that we find points of agreement!

I don't care if it's "bad" for me, and I don't imagine you do either.

[Violet_Crumble]

29. I totally agree with that. Feiglin's an example of the small number of extremists on both sides...

They in no way represent most Israelis or Palestinians. Unfortunately for a variety of reasons, the extremists have the power to make things terrible in that part of the world and ensure that peace won't happen. While Feiglin doesn't have his hands on the steering wheel of Israel, he's far too close to it for it to be comfortable. Things are horrific at the moment, but Feiglin and his ideas give a hint of how it could be even worse than it is now.

[cali]

23. can we call him a war criminal?

I suppose because presumably he hasn't the power to order attacks that we can't- but he sure would be if he could. Vile man. Piece of dog shit. fuck him.

[Agony]

30. Jeeez, one step short of "drive them into the sea"

I guess that would sound bad...

it is an upsidedownworld

[magical thyme]

31. Well at least to his credit, he doesn't want any US aid

so at least we would be absolved from financing his genocidal dream.

Sickening.