There are posters who vigourously support HRC

[fadedrose]

for President who may be doing her more harm than good...

If being rude, insensitive and brash are what Hillary thinks her supporters need to be, I have to question her approach is improving HRC's image as strategized, or merely shutting up supporters of other candidates. Or maybe this is not the strategy of HRC, who seems like a friendly woman......I could wish.

I have not been won over by any HRC supporters in this group but I have become more in favor of candidates whose supporters are more objective in their support of others and less subjective than those supporters of HRC.....and less abrasive.

[hrmjustin]

1. What the hell do you mean I am abrasive!

[Cha]

16. You are so not abrasive.. one of the sweetest posters I know. And, all the other Hillary

supporters I know are cyberbuds.. and they're nice. I don't support Hillary at this point in time but then I'm more concerned about the Midterm Elections than who's going to be the Dem Candidate in 2016.

But, fadedrose evidently has encountered some that I'm not aware of. fadedrose.

[fadedrose]

24. I haven't been insulted or bullied

but some other posters have. Hillary does not handle non-supporters (some extremely rude) in this way and gets out of her situations by her wits, quick-thinking, and smiles. I probably will not vote for her if there's a primary, but (whether I vote for her or not), I have to complement her on her resilience....

I generally like people who lets stuff run down their backs without a clue that they've been insulted. (Obama does this well) . .

But I'm starting to think that there are other candidates who are equally resilient.

Cha, I keep telling you, you're just too nice for politics.

[Cha]

25. You just haven't seen my abrasive posts, fadedrose.. I'm

really not too nice for politics. The bush error fixed me of that.

[BainsBane]

29. There isn't a day that goes by that I'm not insulted

and they usually aren't Clinton supporters. Today I was called an anti-Semite. Yesterday I was called a fascist, Third Way, and libertarian for providing a critique of the capitalist state. Usually it revolves around man-hating or being too "extreme," or carrying about things that just aren't "real," like SCOTUS decisions establishing inequality under the law or violence against women.

If I posted an OP every time someone insulted me, I've had time for nothing else. Moreover, if I held a particular candidate responsible for the inane comments made around here, I'd be as out of it as the folks who can't tell Mussolini from Marx.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

34. Try being a <1000 post count

I posted under another name. I hit 10,000 posts and walked away from that handle for personal reasons. Let me tell you -- starting over has been an eye opener. Many have been warm and welcoming, but there are some here who are complete jerks to lower post-count posters. This includes some I thought would know better.

[BainsBane]

37. Or if you are new and post more than they think you should

They'll give you shit for that too. Of course it's all a way to make up for the fact they have no substantive response to make.

[hrmjustin]

26. You are very sweet Cha to say that.

[geek tragedy]

2. There is very little correlation between civility

and where a poster stands re: Hillary.

[freshwest]

7. Agreed.

[Skittles]

3. are you fucking kidding?

[fadedrose]

4. No I am not fucking, kidding or not, am on computer now...mt

[Skittles]

6. er OK then

[L0oniX]

36. Let the ass kicking begin.

[Mo Ramtor]

5. As long as we don't have any divisiveness

I don't think we should be too vocal on division otherwise the Tea Farty will get jiggy

[fadedrose]

9. THANK YOU for your first post

and Welcome.

There's no such thing as being too vocal for DU.

[gopiscrap]

22. Welcome to DU

[JaneyVee]

8. HRC put out a memo telling supporters to be abrasive?

[Algernon Moncrieff]

35. You didn't get it??

Last month...from the "Ready for Hillary" folks. The abrasiveness memo?

Must've just been me

[hrmjustin]

10. To befair here there are plenty of abrasive Warren supporters here.

[Cha]

17. Exactly.. and some really nice ones. no broad brushes here.

[Number23]

19. You got that right.

"Abrasive" is putting it extremely kindly indeed.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

32. I've noticed this phenomenon with supporters of EVERY candidate.

The candidate should never be judged by the supporters. That's like judging the message by the messenger. You don't stop breathing because Chris Christie says he likes air, and you don't change candidates simply because some or even most of the people you run across who support that candidate are asses. (Well, I say 'you don't' generically, but yes, sometimes some people are shallow enough to do so. Which is why the OP does have a point that applies no matter the candidate - you're a better ambassador for your candidate when you're (again, generic you, not you personally) not abrasive or condescending or insulting towards those you wish to win over.)

It may be old and trite, but 'You catch more flies with honey than vinegar' only got to be old and trite because the overall sentiment rings true.

[JI7]

11. i don't support Hillary but they are not the problem in this case

first of all, you don't need to support her.

so far i would vote for Biden and Sanders over her of those who have been as maybe running. so why not just support who you want.

[Thinkingabout]

12. A lot of posters are trying to promote their candidate and go too far and it becomes a

Negative.

Here is a link to HRC on the issues:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

[NaturalHigh]

13. Just wait until the primaries roll around.

For what it's worth, I'm supporting HRC at this point (if she runs), but there's a long way to go before the voting starts.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

15. "I'm supporting HRC at this point"

Me too, I picked Hillary to follow along with for the time being.

Nobody's perfect!

[RKP5637]

30. I'll support whoever can win the presidency. I think HRC has the most aggressive and capable

political machinery to do that. No candidate is ever perfect. I also like Elizabeth Warren. As you say, there's a long time before the voting starts. I just want to be sure we get a democratic president in 2016. Whichever democratic candidate can make that happen I'm with.

[Tommy2Tone]

14. Uh, Democratic Underground

So supporting the next Democratic candidate for president is being some kind of a subversive?

[delrem]

18. I just saw HRC on a Colbert Report rerun.

Her laugh was so infectious. I just can't wait for 8 years solid, of that laugh.

[Warren DeMontague]

20. I would strongly advise her campaign- and her most earnest boosters- to not run on "inevitability"

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Again.

And maybe not do some lame Bob Shrum values voter campaign where we pretend the absolute most controversial position a candidate can take is whether Jesus is the "most influential" human ever, or only just the bestest.

She wants the nom, fine- a lot of us think she COULD be a strong candidate- but make the fucking sale, and that includes brave and clear policy initiatives and positions.

[Gman]

21. Either you support her are you don't.

The couple of hundred people here at DU scattered all over the 50 states who have the same complaint make no difference in helping Hillary win.

You should pardon Hillary people here who may be a bit aggressive. They put up with a whole lot of the same from the Obama supporters in 08.

You're either going to vote for her or you're not.

[gopiscrap]

23. welcome to du

[wyldwolf]

27. "If being rude, insensitive and brash" - OH the irony!

[BainsBane]

28. LOL

Because Clinton posters are the only ones who are abrasive.

Nothing at all abrasive by calling anyone who doesn't share a posters complete contempt for Obama, Clinton, and essentially the majority of the Democratic Party and its voters as "fascist," "libertarian," "authoritarian," or "Third Way." All because their incomes aren't high enough, their skin not white enough, their chromosomes not Y enough, or their sexuality not straight enough so that it actually doesn't make a difference if a Democrat or Republican holds the Presidency, House, or Senate.

[wyldwolf]

31. what probably happened is...

The OP sad some rude, insensitive and brash stuff about Hillary except it wasn't rude, insensitive and brash because, well, the OP thinks he/she is merely speaking "truth to power" or some nonsense like that. So some Hillary supporter pushed back and was being rude, insensitive and brash for daring to defend that corporatist fascist DLC Dino...

... think it went down like that?

[Phlem]

33. There are posters who vigourously support themselves.

usually the ones that yammer the longest until people just get fed up and always has to have the last word. I just put one on ignore. Coincidentally a staunch Hillary supporter.