Shame on the Syfy channel

[edhopper]

On the anniversary of the monumental achievement of man's walking on the moon, the show a bullshit documentary about aliens on the moon that is so bad and full of falsehoods it could be satire.
Way to commemorate the triumph of science.
Wankers.

[shenmue]

1. I know

They were so much better when they used to be Sci Fi.

[edhopper]

2. Who do the think they are now

The History Channel?

[shenmue]

3. Remember when speculation was the opposite of good research?

Now they have Finding Bigfoot on Animal Planet and Ancient Aliens on the History Channel. Excuse me, aliens and Bigfoot?!

[edhopper]

4. I guess when one political party's agenda

Is just a series of falsehoods which are never contridicted in the MSM; logic, rationality and truth don't matter anymore.

[pokerfan]

74. Network decay

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NetworkDecay

I remember when cable tv had decent science programming.



Hell, I remember when HLN was actually headline news and ran through the top stories every half hour. You could tune in anytime, watch for thirty minutes, and be totally caught up on news.

[edhopper]

75. It's the date that

pisses me off.
It would be like showing Birth of a Nation on MLK Day.

[pokerfan]

85. It would still piss me off on any other day

Television could be such a powerful tool if it was used for good. Instead we get...

[workinclasszero]

116. Right...

Both of them peddle BS now.

[NightWatcher]

5. From the same channel that brought us Sharknado?

I'm shocked

[F4lconF16]

13. Hey there!

While I completely agree with the OP and can't stand most of the History-Channelesque crap they show now, don't be knocking Sharknado!

It's a classic

[Calista241]

34. Dude, Sharknado was quality entertainment.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

45. So....wait. That WASN'T a nature documentary?

Well, this is embarrassing...

[AngryAmish]

47. It was. Don't believe the haters.

Fox News stated that it was a fictionalized movie. THat is all you need to know that the opposite was true.

[Liberal_in_LA]

117. lol

[Fawke Em]

6. Um... it is a modern spelling of Science Fiction. Sci-Fi.

You know, fiction.

I guess I can't get too mad about a channel espousing fictional documentaries when fiction is in their name.

[RobertEarl]

7. You just ruined this thread

They were really going off on the idea that, to their surprise, the tv was posting bullshit.

[edhopper]

10. What bothers me

Is that it is tied to the anniversary of Apollo 11.
The can do all the Ghost Hunting, Bigfoot shit they want.
But honoring such a great event like this shameful.

[RobertEarl]

11. You saying the moon landing was Sci-fy?

Just where did the moon land? I still see it up there most nights. <grin>

[edhopper]

12. Only funny

If I hear it in Jerry Seinfeld's voice.

[Fawke Em]

25. If I wanted to watch a non-fiction documentary about Apollo 11,

a channel named after science FICTION would not be my first choice.

And all these shows present their "findings" as legitimate and with a straight face. That's the lure. It's like The Onion for the satire illiterate.

[edhopper]

46. True

and them doing it to commemorate Apollo 11 is insulting and shameful. which is my point.

[fried eggs]

114. You kind of have a point with regard to small, impressionable children

I remember watching "documentaries" as a child that were fictional, but I thought they were real, based on the documentary presentation style. One special I saw was about Aliens and it scared me for a very long time.

[edhopper]

115. You might be surprized

At how many adults react the same way.

[edhopper]

8. No

This isn't a pseudo documentary. They are presenting it as fact, with a straight face. And doing it to commemorate Apollo 11.
Shame on them.

[CBGLuthier]

21. No, it is NOT a modern spelling of SciFi. it is a trademarked, made-up spelling.

They could not fully trademark SCiFi since it is a common expression. So they made up a stupid word for their stupid channel's corporate interests.

But I will take your argument even further. Anyone who expects anything good or sensible to be on that channel is setting themselves up for a disappointment. The primary product of that and many of our cable channels is shitonastick but they would not let them trademark that either.

[Fawke Em]

24. Whether it's made-up because they couldn't trademark it doesn't negate my argument.

The fact is that whether it's a modern spelling or a trademark decision, the name implies Sci-Fi or Science FICTION.

And, of course, you're free to consider SyFy both a stupid word and a stupid channel (I actually cringed when the name changed, too), but the fact is that it is set up to make money and cater to its corporate interests - it's a business.

But, as with all businesses, save monopolies, you can choose not to use their services, buy their products or, in this case, watch their shows. Just turn to another channel.

FWIW, there are far more interesting documentaries and non-fiction shows on the Internet than on television. Television is the providence of the hoi polloi and the majority seem to eat this stuff up with a spoon.

Why do you think the cable companies are so hell-bent on curbing Internet usage: too many of us have discovered that if we want accurate information, we're not going to get it from our televisions and we've turned to the Internet to bring us other sources.

My point was, and is, that the channel should be assumed to be fictional since its name was derived from that word.

[CBGLuthier]

27. I still think calling something made up purely for commercial reasons a "modern spelling"

is according it a courtesy if does not deserve.

I have not had cable service for years. The SF channel sucked long before they changed their name. So did Discovery, TLC, Bravo, The History Channel, and Cable news. The suck in the worst way possible which is to say they suck your soul and your intelligence away.

I did not disagree with your argument about the nature of the channel and its content, just the implied etymology of the word Syfy, which I think is more a pet name for syphilis, than an abbreviation of a term for a genre I love.

[AngryAmish]

48. It is owned by Sy Fynstein, thus the initials SyFy

Jeez, is this so hard?

[Codeine]

9. Ever since they dropped MST3K

I've not given them the time of day.

[NuclearDem]

26. They briefly redeemed themselves with the BSG remake.

But after that, back to the same old B-grade sci-fi movies.

[kentauros]

82. And don't forget the wrestling.

Because, as we all know, wrestlers colonize space in the future!

[brooklynite]

14. You DO know that the "Fy" refers to "Fiction", right?

I believe there are several science channels that might be more accommodating to your needs.

[edhopper]

15. Do you have any comprehension

Of why this is an affront to decency.
Or is insulting one of man's great achievements meaningless to you, no matter where it takes place.

[brooklynite]

16. Why no, please explain it to us...

Would it be more appropriate to have shown the program yesterday? or tomorrow? Or is fiction relating to the moon landing inappropriate at all times?

[edhopper]

18. It's inane

But yes, saying you are celebrating the 45th anniv. Of the moon landing with this tripe is particularly insulting.
Sorry if you can't see that.

[brooklynite]

19. Maybe the fact that I'm not watching it reflects my position...

...that said, I'm a strong advocate of the First Amendment, so I don't much care what an entertainment channel chooses to broadcast.

[edhopper]

20. The First Amendment

says nothing about criticizing and condemning what a corporation airs.
It is only about Government censorship. So that is a non sequitor and an insulting insinuation.
Did i say anything about wanting this to be banned by the Government or only that is was shameful of Scyfy?

[jberryhill]

52. lol

[SomethingFishy]

60. "An affront to decency"? Jesus man get a grip...

It's a fucking TV channel using an American event to try to draw viewers. It's what this country does, or have you never seen the "July 4th Furniture Blowout"! Or the "Veterans Day SALE" or the extended mall hours for "Presidents Day".

We honor our dead and our achievements by buying useless Chinese made crap, and watching awful shit on TV. Welcome to America. Stupid? Yes. Annoying? Yes. An "Affront to decency"? Uh... no.

[edhopper]

65. So it doesn't bother you

and bothered me quite a bit.

And to express my outrage i posted a thread on an internet board, OH the Humanity!

[SomethingFishy]

66. You're the one screaming about "affronts to decency"

While living in a consumerist nation... Our whole country is an "affront to decency", I just can't figure out why it's the "SyFy" channel that finally got your ire..

[edhopper]

69. Because of the significance

I feel for the anniversary and that they specifically said it was a commemoration.

Any other time I would ignore it.

[brooklynite]

80. "I posted a thread on an internet board"...

...an action which has been known to encourage other people to also post messages. Perhaps if you'd made it clear that you only wanted responses that agreed with you, or that you were posting rant which called for no replies at all, things might have worked out better.

[edhopper]

83. People can reply however they wish

and i will respond to them as I see.

I didn't know once some one disagrees i am suppose to retract or go away.

And you really think my OP was a rant?

[kentauros]

62. It did when it was spelled "Sci-Fi"

but several years ago, the channel was "re-branded." That is, not only did they change the logo, they changed the direction of the station away from science-fiction and towards the most profitable kind of broadcasting. Yes, some of it's fiction, but what, exactly, does wrestling have to do with science-fiction?

"Siffie" will air anything that brings in a broad viewership, something they weren't getting when they were the "Sci-Fi Channel" because that's a narrow audience, and not nearly as profitable. Even the Science channels dumb down their programming. You won't see shows at the education-level of Nova, for example.

[bluedigger]

17. What will they do next?

Some sort of fake news report about Martians invading?

[L0oniX]

22. So you're saying that republicans took over the Syfy channel.

[Hugabear]

23. THIS is what you want to shame SyFy over?

Not the countless horrible "intentionally bad" movies they've done over the past several years?

Not the countless paranormal woo-woo shows?

THIS is what you what you want us to shame SyFy for?

[Marrah_G]

32. I love intentionally bad movies :)

[edhopper]

37. It's not that it was a ridiculous doc.

It was that they chose this to honor Apollo 11.

[Hugabear]

41. I actually can't fault SyFy for this one

Haven't seen the movie you're talking about, but I'll assume that it's about the same quality as most SyFy movies. That said, what better timing to debut a fictional movie about the moon landing, than on the anniversary of the first moon landing?

At least it wasn't that wretched moon hoax "documentary" that aired several years ago.

[edhopper]

42. You don't understand

this was not one of those Sat. night schlockfest scifi movies they do.
This was a documentary about evidence for aliens on the moon. It is non-fiction. Not a bad movie with actors and bad special effects, a real documentary. It was a bad as the hoax documentary you mention.

[jberryhill]

53. Everyone knows it was Nazis that got there first

[SomethingFishy]

61. Oh that is such bullshit.. Everyone knows the Nazi's are

at the Center Of The Earth..

[Hugabear]

87. Not a real documentary

Sounds like one of those fake documentaries, much like the "documentary" that Discovery did about living mermaids and megalodon not too long ago.

In other words, it's fiction dressed up as a documentary, but still fiction.

[edhopper]

90. Not at all

It was not a faux doc like the ones you mentioned.
It was produced and presented as factual. No wink at the viewer, an Ernest load of crap.

[Hugabear]

93. That's exactly what a faux doc is

Faux documentaries, aka 'mockumentaries' are fake documentaries presented as if they were real documentaries.

Unless you believe that there really are alien bases on the moon, and that mermaids and Megalodon really do currently exist.

[edhopper]

95. The people who produced and presented it think it is true.

Of course it is full of crap, just as books about UFOs and Bigfoot are, but they presented as true by the authors.

Do you really not see the distinction?

"This is Spinal Tap" is a mockumentary, "2016:Obama's America" is not. It is just a pile of shit. Get it.

[Hugabear]

96. Ok, I see where you're coming from

Since I haven't seen the program in question, up until now I thought it was one of those mockumentaries in the style of the Discovery show about Mermaids.

Still, I think outrage is a bit misplaced here. Nobody really takes SyFy network seriously anymore, not after all the idiotic movies and reality shows they've put out. History Channel has also gone downhill quite a bit in recent years, with all their shows about ancient aliens, Bible codes, Nostradamus, etc.

To me, the real travesty surrounding this anniversary are all the people who think the moon landing was hoaxed.

[edhopper]

98. Truthfully

it was a two sentence post just to vent my disgust at them airing this on this date.
I did not think it would get the reaction it did.


I agree with your last line. They actually aired another documentary about that a few years ago. Truly shameful.

[Xyzse]

28. I thought that was satire... Are you trying to say it was real?

SyFy Channel is known for fiction... I can accept this from SyFy... Ancient Aliens and HoneyBooboo from History Channel and TLC respectively are atrocities.

[edhopper]

35. No

they were serious.

[Xyzse]

38. Woah... Really? I'm reading on it now.

http://www.openminds.tv/syfy-documentary-reveal-truth-aliens-on-the-moon/28793

Didn't think SyFy showed documentaries like this. I tend to think everything they show is fake or not serious.

[edhopper]

39. And they showed it

to commemorate Apollo 11. That is what i found shameful.

[Xyzse]

40. I see...

[Jamastiene]

29. It was once SciFi...as in science fiction.

Walking on the moon was science fact. So, I can see why they didn't do anything about that, specifically.

What I want to know is how they are going to top Sharknado.

[Marrah_G]

31. Sharknado 2 is coming out :)

[Marrah_G]

30. it's the Science FICTION channel, not the SCIENCE channel

[edhopper]

36. The presented it as a factual doc.

But the shameful thing is it was intended to commemorate Apollo 11.

[LittleBlue]

33. You sure that wasn't the "History" Channel?

Aliens on the moon hmmm... sounds like history to me!

[WinkyDink]

43. What about the "FY" do you not get?

[edhopper]

44. What about presenting a documentary

as fact don't you get.

When the History Channel shows dramatic series like The Vikings do you assume it is a documentary because it's on History?

You really are that stuck on the name of the Channel instead of seeing how they honored Apollo 11 was insulting?

FFS

[Orrex]

49. On a list of channels I would consult for a commemoration of the event...

SyFy ranks somewhere below the VHF test pattern.

Can't imagine someone actually getting upset about this.

[edhopper]

50. So why do people here regularly get upset

about what's on Fox or what Limbaugh says?

[Orrex]

51. You can't be serious

Because Fox and Limbaugh posture themselves as news outlets. If they were honest, they'd admit that they're pure propagandists.

SyFy advertises itself as a medium for science fiction. If they were honest, they would admit that their science fiction is crap.

But it wouldn't have occurred to me that anyone would expect to find a factual science documentary on SyFy.

[edhopper]

54. You are aware

the have reality shows that they claim are factual, not dramas?

Do you discount dramas on the History Channel because of the channel's name?

[Orrex]

56. Again, you can't be serious

You are aware the have reality shows that they claim are factual, not dramas?

It is beyond the power of any television program to help someone silly enough to think that "reality shows" are factual.

Do you discount dramas on the History Channel because of the channel's name?

I discount drams on that channel because it's been garbage for more than a decade and because anyone with even a basic sense of critical thinking should be able to identify garbage.

Are you unable to make that identification? Or do you assume that others are unable?

[edhopper]

57. The Hatfields and McCoys was very good

and The Vikings is a fun show.

So that is at least two channels you don't know jack about.

[Orrex]

59. Did you misidentify either of those programs as documentaries?

Why do you feel that others will be unable to match your astute perceptiveness?

I stand by my description of The History Channel as "crap." Cable is full of channels offering fictional programming. I don't need another mis-named channel providing more of the same.


And I certainly don't look to SyFy as a disseminator of hard science fact. Why do you?

[edhopper]

67. You are saying because it is on ScyFy

it can't be a documentary.
I demonstrated that the name of the channel isn't an indication of whether something is presented as factual or drama.

[Orrex]

72. No

I am saying that because it is on SyFy, it is extremely unlikely to be a documentary.

What's in a name? Not much, to be honest. SyFy aired a lot of wrestling matches, too.


Regardless, you're getting in a lather about a complete non-issue. Why are you singling out SyFy for your criticism of its failure to air a factual documentary to commemorate the moon landing? Why not go after ESPN or the Home Shopping Network?

[edhopper]

78. Because of the date

That they commemorate the moon landing with something that is the opposite of that achievement.

If TCM shows Birth of a Nation, who cares, it would be another thing if they did it to honor MLK Day.

[Orrex]

79. This might be the dumbest conversation in which I have ever participated

And I've been involved in some dumb ones.

I am utterly baffled that a functional adult could muster the will to become upset about something as trivial and meaningless as SyFy's programming schedule. I'm 90% convinced that you're simply fucking with me.

[edhopper]

81. I am truly surprised that

people who don't agree with me didn't just yawn and move on, but that so many adults took time to type a reply and then argue their point that this should not of upset me.

Seriously, I thought I'd get maybe a dozen or less replies to acknowledge the thread and it be gone.

But so many people are truly troubled that I find this shameful on the part of Scyfy and NBC/Universal.

Baffling, huh? Who'd a thunk it.

[Hugabear]

94. Here's what I find more surprising

Not that you're worked up over the timing of the program

But that because it was presented in a documentary format, that you thought it was a real, legitimate documentary

Let me use another example - Spinal Tap. The movie is presented as a "documentary" about a British rock band, yet it's most definitely not a documentary - because the band Spinal Tap didn't exist (at least not until the movie was made, then they sort of put together a real band based on the movie).

[edhopper]

97. I answered you elsewhere

This is not "This is Spinal Tap"
This is "2016: Obama' America"

It was presented as factual and with all sincerity.

Not a mockumentary, not an inside joke, not about a faux subject that the film makers know isn't real like mermaids.
A true documentary meant to convince people about alien visitation.

It is a legitimate documentary in every sense, other than it's a load of crap, but then are a lot of documentaries.

Do you think the same thing of that bs about the 9/11 that was made, that the film makers were just having a laugh.

[Hugabear]

88. It's not a documentary, because it's not real

How can you have a real documentary about something that doesn't exist?

And those "reality shows", I assume you're talking about stuff like Ghost Hunters, which is absolute 100% fake

[edhopper]

92. It was presented as factual

And on this anniversary, that is shameful.

[NCTraveler]

55. Rec for use of the word "Wanker". nt.

[edhopper]

58. :D

[LordGlenconner]

63. It's the fucking Syfy Channel

What were you expecting, a Ken Burns style documentary on the space program?

[Nye Bevan]

64. The Syfy channel is Science Fiction. If you want to *learn* stuff, try The Learning Channel (TLC).

OK, I was only kidding about that last part

[kentauros]

68. "Siffie" hasn't been a science-fiction channel in years.

Here's something about how they do their programming after the rebranding in 2009:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy

Syfy's programming includes original made-for-cable movies, miniseries, and series. In the past, the channel concentrated on classic science fiction shows. However under NBCUniversal ownership, the channel has altered its schedule in the past few years to expand its lineup of programs, and Syfy now airs shows including WWE's SmackDown, changing from the original niche programming to offerings more towards general-entertainment in nature.

Same thing happened to TLC, Discovery, Science channel, National Geographic, Documentary channel, History channel, A&E, Bravo, and whichever other ones we thought were brilliant in the beginning. Because "brilliant" doesn't sell soap, or cars, or fastfood. That's probably why I watch BBCA and TCM more than any other channels.

[edhopper]

71. So it's NBC/Universal

that thought this was a good way to honor Apollo 11.

That's worse.

[kentauros]

73. Yes, it is worse.

And SciFi was launched at a planetarium! You can't get any more honorific to space than that! Other than going into space

But yeah, that channel and every other one on the NBC/Universal list is all about maximizing profits, through the lowest common denominator. I'm actually surprised they didn't show a "documentary" that it was all a hoax instead.

[Rex]

70. LOL! Is this a joke!? It is not the 'Science Nonfiction' channel doncha know!?

[dilby]

76. It's SyFy like Science Fiction.

If you want documentaries then watch the History Channel.

[edhopper]

77. You mean shows like

The Vikings or The Hatfields and The McCoys, those documentaries?

[Hugabear]

89. Historical fiction. Not documentaries.

Those are artistic interpretations loosely based on historical events. Not actual documentaries.

[edhopper]

91. Exactly

Just as History shows dramas.
Scyfy shows documentaries and reality based programs.
Because it was on Scyfy, doesn't mean they are saying it's fiction. It was presented as quite the opposite, and given the date, that is shameful.

[jmowreader]

84. I thought this was going to be a "Sharknado 2" thread

Because there were so many unanswered questions from the first one, they HAD to do a sequel!

[edhopper]

86. I would be much more content

If Scyfy kept themselves to stuff like Sharknado and not air crap like this to "honor" Apollo 11.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

99. Supposedly, the term "SciFi" (or "SyFy") is a very uncool expression among Science Fiction fans

I used to be a regular listener to radio station KPFK in Los Angeles that had a regular Friday night science fiction show, hosted by Mike Hodel and featuring guest hosts like Harlan Ellison. The show featured interviews with most of the major science fiction writers and filmmakers of the era. I think the show aired from the late 60s to the mid 90s. When Mike Hodel died of a brain tumor, Harlan Ellison took over, followed by other writers as hosts. (Harlan Ellison is so, so funny, a blast to listen to)

The show repeatedly corrected any people calling in to the show during the talk segment that "Sci Fi" was taboo. Real science fiction fans don't use the term, and this was the consensus among all the major writers. Mike Hodel would jokingly use the term "Skiffy" to mock this usage.

[edhopper]

100. That's interesting

I am an avid science fiction fan and use the term sci-fi

Then again I often call graphic novels comic books.

Yes Ellison is a hoot.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

103. Here's a wikipedia article on the sci fi controvesy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skiffy

"...Skiffy is a deliberate humorous misspelling or mispronunciation of the controversial term "sci-fi", a neologism referring to science fiction.

Background

The term "sci-fi" was publicly adopted as an alternate form of "science fiction" by Forrest ("Forry&quot J Ackerman by 1954, in analogy to the then-cutting edge "hi-fi". Ackerman was a long-time fan who created Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine, which celebrated the monster/SF movies that were frowned upon by many hardcore science fiction fans as being too poor in quality to be taken seriously, and definitely not to be confused with "real" science fiction.

In the late 1960s, a new movement of science fiction writers, the "New Wave", arose. It tended to reject science fiction's pulpy background and to scorn the term "sci-fi" as being associated with bad monster movies. Even the term "science fiction" was seen by some in the New Wave as too limiting, and "speculative fiction" was introduced as an alternative. Some advocated the use of the initials "SF", as they could be taken to refer to either "science fiction" or "speculative fiction".[1] Not everyone agreed with this new nomenclature, however, and while the term "sci-fi" continued to be widely used, and pronounced "sigh-fie", the pronunciation "skiffy" began to appear among science fiction insiders in the late 1970s.[2]

One of the first well-documented uses of the term "skiffy" was in the name of a science fiction and fantasy fan club at the University of Chicago, which was formed during the 1980s, and lasted until it was disbanded in 2003. Skiffy is still the name of the science fiction and fantasy club at the College of William and Mary,[3] as well as (not always affectionate) shorthand for the American cable channel then called Sci Fi.[citation needed]

By the late 1990s, the term "skiffy" was well-enough accepted that Mike Resnick and Patrick Nielsen Hayden released a book called Alternate Skiffy,[4] an anthology featuring stories about what might have happened if the lives of various well-known science fiction writers had turned out differently. Spider Robinson also used it in a pair of Lord Buckley-style raps about Robert Heinlein in a short story collection. ..."

[archaic56]

101. ON Why YOur TV has become a useful tool for some

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self


http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-century-of-the-self/

I would also direct you to the words of Carole Rosin.. as she was told by Werner VON BRaun " the last flag will be the alien one" IN other words.. expect this kind of junk on your tv. The above will explain to you how tv is just a mind control tool.

Am I one of those far left looneys? Nope just done lots of reading from all sides and using gray matter to come to my own conclusion.i think TV and the net are used to keep us from using our own powers of discernment

[edhopper]

104. I don't think there is a joined conspiracy

But do the corporations use TV to indoctrinate, distract and evade.

Most certainly.

[archaic56]

105. your right not a conspiracy

It's always been a logical Machiavellian plan for the rich to take back their power. They did not like the gains made in the Labor movement. It's rather like a deep logical puzzle.. but if you like logic..you can figure it out. The reason they denigrate it and call it "conspiracy theories" Is the same reason they use TV for mind control.
What did that guy in Hilters cabinet say about repeating a lie enough that people believe it. Dividing us into so many factions has been very successful don't ya think? OH It was GOebels.. who said that.

Think about it if you use your own gray matter and don't buy the lie told on TV the corporate giants won't make as big of a profit. It's not rocket science.IT's really quite simple and Hoovers files contain the template.

AS William Herr in Medieval World 1100 to 1300 shows us..when a group of folks start thinking they can make their own decisions.. someone pulls out the Spanish Inquisition. Back then folks were fighting the Catholic Churches contention that you needed them to mediate between you and Creator.. CC of ROme.. didn't like that.. Do you think the Jesuits have gotten dumber? I don't


IT is simply the rich wanting to take us all back to serfs and kings. Our own Native American history is full of clues. after all our government did conspire to kill us.. IT's a known fact..they still do.. Why do you think there are open pit uranium mines and toxic waste dumps on all reservations. Darlin we were the first conspiracy this country engaged in

I suppose we First Nations folks see this through another lens.. as well we should

[archaic56]

111. all media owned by six rich men

well then if that is so , what you assert, then why did the Republicans give inordinate amounts of money to GOOGLE and Facebook? The Century of SElf is a good place to look into social engineerings beginning..


and how , if there is no concerted conspiracy, how the heck have they kept the biggest scandals of all quiet.. trust the media at your own peril. I trust what I have between my own ears.. NOw how long did it take for the crimes of the RESIDENTIAL SChools to come out ..yes over 100 years.. so before you say there is no conspiracy.. look into the hiding of crimes by the CC of Rome or the WHore of Babylon as I like to call her

[edhopper]

112. I don't see them sitting in a room like in the

Simpsons and hashing out who to screw next.

I see them using their power in similar ways to get richer and more powerful.

Perhaps it's a difference without distinction.

[Buns_of_Fire]

102. I think if they REALLY intended to dishonor Apollo 11, they would've shown "Capricorn One." nt

[tabasco]

106. Their real crime is lowering the bar as far as it will go

in the quality of sci-fi movies.

[miyazaki]

107. There is no contention, the channel blows.

Only thing really noteworthy is the Twilight Zone Marathon, if they even
run that anymore. Probably edited anyway.

[AnnieBW]

108. SyFy Ceased To Be about Science Fiction

About the time that "Battlestar Galactica" went off the air.

[edbermac]

110. First they say the moon landing was faked.

Now they're saying it wasn't and there is a coverup regarding aliens on the moon.

[edhopper]

113. I know, right?

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[Throd]

118. Better sit down, I have some news to tell you about "The Blair Witch Project".

[edhopper]

119. I've explained this

on a dozen different posts here. Try to keep up.