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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 06:17 PM Jul 2014

Cops react to the death of Eric Garner pretty much how you would expect

By Joe Coscarelli

There has been no shortage of community outrage in the days since the death of Eric Garner, a 43-year-old father of six suspected of selling loose cigarettes, during a violent, videotaped arrest in Staten Island last week. Mayor de Blasio delayed his vacation and called the circumstances "very troubling," while NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton said "this would appear to have been a chokehold," an illegal maneuver.

Two officers involved, including eight-year veteran Daniel Pantaleo, who administered the neck-grab to bring Garner down, have been taken off the streets (as have four EMS workers, who were placed on modified duty). And while the PBA union has requested the police be given "the benefit of the doubt," emotions are running high not just among the public but for police officers, too.

In internet communities for law enforcement, like PoliceOne.com, "the One resource for Law Enforcement online," and Thee Rant, an NYPD message board, the Garner story has stirred up racial, political, and professional tensions, most of them quite ugly. While all of the comments below are anonymous, and therefore not verifiable, both sites do require registration for membership ("No ID card, No Approval!" says Thee Rant). By no means a comprehensive view of law-enforcement feelings about the incident, the postings do provide a different — if beyond upsetting — perspective.

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/cops-react-to-the-death-of-eric-garner.html

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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. The 1-2-0 precinct is one of the worst in the city
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 06:21 PM
Jul 2014

My wife encounters them in her work. The word she used for them is "thugs"--thugs who willfully flout NYPD regulations, engage in racist profiling, and are pretty much out of control.

This is not a surprise.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
4. My wife was talking about visiting NYC on our way out of country next year.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 06:37 PM
Jul 2014

I told her I do not want to spend a dime in that racist city, thank you very much. Get rid of stop-n-frisk and stop murdering minorities and I may change my mind.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Stop and Frisk is gone. And what racial paradise do you live in?
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 06:40 PM
Jul 2014

Every American city has racist cops. NYC has more of them because it has more cops.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
7. One that did not have a 10 year policy of stopping everyone of color
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jul 2014

and has never had a cop ram anything up an anyone's ass or shot someone to death for having a cellphone But hey, it's a hell of a town eh.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
6. #JusticeforEricGarner
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 06:49 PM
Jul 2014
http://act.colorofchange.org/sign/eric_garner/




Please take action and demand that NYC Police Commissioner Bill Bratton immediately start the process to fire all the officers involved in this devastating police killing. Furthermore, Mayor Bill de Blasio and District Attorney Donovan have the power and the responsibility to hold the police department completely accountable.

Here's the letter we'll send NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio, Police Commissioner Bill Bratton and Staten Island District Attorney Daniel Donovan on your behalf. You can add a personal comment using the box provided.

Dear District Attorney Donovan, Mayor de Blasio and Police Commissioner Bratton,

I am deeply troubled by the outrageous conduct of the officers who choked Eric Garner to death in Staten Island. Garner is the latest in a long history of Black and brown New Yorkers who have unjustly had their lives cut short by police officers over the past decades. But this time the entire brutal encounter was caught on tape.

The officers involved can be seen using a violent chokehold to subdue Eric – which runs counter to the NYPD's use of force policy. This brutal choking is yet another example of unnecessary police encounters resulting from policing policies and practices that target Black and brown communities, such as Stop and Frisk and now Commissioner Bratton's "broken windows" tactic. These discriminatory tactics subject Black and brown New Yorkers to constant harassment, violence and can can quickly escalate and turn fatal.

In order for these incidents to end, it is critical that a thorough and fair investigation be conducted, justice be served and all of the officers involved in the deadly altercation be held accountable.

We demand that these officers be held completely accountable for their outrageus conduct and excessive use of force.

Sincerely,

Your Name







A HERETIC I AM

(24,362 posts)
9. An example of the fine, upstanding "Professional" law enforcement officers posting on that site;
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jul 2014

From the comments section of

http://www.policeone.com/arrests/articles/7385823-Video-NY-man-dies-in-struggle-during-arrest/

"In the first place, if it turns out that the force used by the officers was legal and within departmental policy, it doesn't make ANY other cop look bad. If the public isn't willing to accept the fact that the officers did nothing wrong, they can go to hell. I could care less how the public perceives us when we're in the right and if YOU were any kind of law enforcement professional, you would understand that officer safety is FAR more important than public perception. "

"Posted by joe hoffman on Monday, July 21, 2014 09:14 AM Pacific"


I'm betting that Mr. Hoffman is the kind of guy that figures it is a "Us Vs. Them" situation ALL THE TIME, that the public is somehow "the other" and that no matter what he does, as long as it is even close to the guidelines, he is justified.

How many people have you beaten the crap out of in your career, Mr. Hoffman? How many have you killed? Officer safety probably trumps the bill of rights in your mind.

Douchebag.

The only reason assholes like that become cops is because it was the only way they were ever going to get ANYONE to call them "Sir".

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