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ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 06:21 AM Jul 2014

Netanyahu’s ‘Telegenically Dead’ Comment Is Grotesque but Not Original

Benjamin Netanyahu, yesterday, on CNN, addressing worldwide sympathy for the civilian victims of Israeli violence in Gaza:

They want to pile up as many civilian dead as they can. They use telegenically dead Palestinians for their cause. They want the more dead, the better.



Joseph Goebbels, November 16, 1941, essay in Das Reich, addressing Germany sympathy for German Jews forced to wear yellow stars:

The Jews gradually are having to depend more and more on themselves, and have recently found a new trick. They knew the good-natured German Michael in us, always ready to shed sentimental tears for the injustice done to them. One suddenly has the impression that the Berlin Jewish population consists only of little babies whose childish helplessness might move us, or else fragile old ladies. The Jews send out the pitiable. They may confuse some harmless souls for a while, but not us. We know exactly what the situation is.


https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/07/21/netanyahus-telegenically-dead-comment-original/
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PCIntern

(25,518 posts)
2. Really...
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 06:40 AM
Jul 2014

there you go again...

So if Netenyahu does not come up with prose which would be associated with Sheakespeare or Milton, then he is quoting Goebbels? This is an outrageous, vicious statement continuously attempting to equate Jews with Nazis. Do you think that the Prime Minister was scouring Bartlett's quotations for his statement of the OBVIOUS?

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
4. Questions for you...
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 12:01 PM
Jul 2014

I haven't looked up your other posts on this subject, so I don't know where you stand. So - do you think that Netanyahu is a good man? Do you think he wants a peaceful resolution to the violence? Do you believe he is justified in ordering his army to kill innocent people?

IMHO, Netanyahu is a psychopath and deserves to be in the Hague with Bushco. I have no tolerance for his justifications or statements like the one quoted in the above article, whether it's similar to Goebbels or not. The INTENT of the comment is to shift blame for his horrific actions - for killing innocent children.



PCIntern

(25,518 posts)
12. You "think he's a psychopath"?
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 04:40 PM
Jul 2014

...and you completed medical school in what year? I'm just trying to get a sense of your bona fides in this regard. And you examined him when? For your diagnosis and all.

Let me ask you: the Israelis as a population are pretty bright - you might admit that, right/ so why do you think that they elected him? Could it be that they were just a little tired of having their cafes blown up after the Sabbath; their buses incinerated by bombs; their street festivals and pizza shops shot up? What do you think would happen in this country if, say, the Columbians came here and did that on a routine basis? Do you think that a pacifist would be elected President?

I know...it's 'different' when it comes to Israel, right?

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
13. I'm sorry you're so angry.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 05:43 PM
Jul 2014

Why did the Israelis elect Netanyahu, why did Americans elect Bush?

I don't care how bright as a population they are...fear does horrible things to the mind regardless of intelligence. I get they're afraid, and I get that they (some, not all) want a man who appears to have no conscience do what it takes to protect them.

Do you really think violence, on either side, is the answer to this whole mess? Having a leader who indiscriminately bombs innocent people is just as abominable as Hamas doing it.

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conservaphobe

(1,284 posts)
6. I'm not a big Netanyahu fan and find what he said to be ridiculously offensive...
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 03:41 PM
Jul 2014

But equating him and Israel with the Nazis is below the belt and just as offensive.

I'd expect nothing less from that rag, however.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
8. i think people do it on purpose, what i notice is how offended people were when Putin's actions
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jul 2014

were being compared to things that happened during WWII . they were outraged and attacked those who would bring it up.
and this was nothing compared to what is in the OP and what others are doing.

but i notice some of them are actually the same ones.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. Too bad he didn't think before he opened his mouth. This has been in publications
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 04:22 PM
Jul 2014

all over the world, not just this 'rag' as you put it.

I don't care what rag it is in, HE said it, NOT the rag and it is a despicable, disgusting thing to say about dead children.

But then this is the same war criminal who said that '9/11 is good for Israel', so what else would one expect?

JI7

(89,244 posts)
11. it's the need to compare it to nazis which is the problem , yet when it comes to Putin
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 04:31 PM
Jul 2014

many get offeded .

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
9. I think Margaret Mitchell used this tactic before Goebbels...
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 04:00 PM
Jul 2014

Re-reading GWTW and in the section about Atlanta during reconstruction, she notes how the Yankees were getting the you-know who-s (yes, she does use the N word) all riled up with false stories about how they were abused as slaves...it's a common tactic to absolve oneself of any wrongdoing.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
14. Slight Digression: Daniel O'Connell, the "Liberator"(legendary Irish independence champion)
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jul 2014

would have been mortally offended at Margaret Mitchell's book.

Daniel O'Connell made his position on the slavery issue clear during his lifetime, when he denounced it during fundraising tours to the U.S.(offending some upper-class Irish-Americans, a few of whom had disgraced themselves by becoming slaveowners).

"Tara", the slave plantation where Scarlett O'Hara's melodramatic and embarrassing story played out, was named by Mitchell for the great pasture near Dublin where O'Connell held his monster rallies for the Irish cause in the 1820's and early 1830's(rallies where crowds of up to one million people turned out to hear O'Connell speak for the liberation cause). Margaret Mitchell took a place where people came to fight for freedom and used it to name a place where people were held in chains.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
15. He should be...a lot of people should be offended by the book...
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 06:02 PM
Jul 2014

I hadn't read it in quite some time and when I saw it at the library I figured why not? It's a soap opera that also rewrites history...damn that Abraham Lincoln for not wanting peace just so those braves southerners could suffer some more!!!

 

Damansarajaya

(625 posts)
16. HW Bush CONs accused Saddam of using women and children
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 09:13 PM
Jul 2014

as "human shields" whenever our bombs went astray.

malaise

(268,885 posts)
17. The abused often becomes the
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 09:15 PM
Jul 2014

abuser and sadly never recognizes how much he has morphed into what he hates most.

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