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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsErich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Belgium had a dictator who killed 15 million? How did I miss hearing about him in history class?
At any rate, Mao's been dead for most of my life, so I'm guessing our trade policy isn't based on how many people he had killed, any more than our trade policy with Germany is based on Hitler's slaughters.
Business is amoral by nature. Business seeks to maximize profits, and that means buying as cheaply as possible and selling as expensive as possible. China, with far laxer worker safety and environmental regulations, and crappy worker pay, makes cheap stuff that American businesses like to buy and sell on to Americans.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)There was somewhat of a disruption in the German political system in 1945.
We are doing business with Mao's direct successors.
Leopold II slaughtered millions of Congolese, btw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium
lunasun
(21,646 posts)After on or two. More transformations
Reforms
'To get rich is glorious'
Deng Xiaoping thoroughly changed Mao's course for China with a new catch-word, "reform," and a new aphorism,
"To get rich is glorious."
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1999/china.50/red.giant/communism/
When the reform began in 1978, it clearly had the "mandate" of the Chinese people. Turning away from an emphasis on revolutionary campaigns against "class enemies" of the Mao era, Deng and his associates stressed economic development and social stability.
The switch from a planned economy to a more market-oriented economy, and from autocracy to the "open door," brought a thrilling economic boom. Between 1979 and 1997, the growth rate of China's Gross Domestic Product (GDP) was 9.8 percent annually, about three times greater than the world average.
If Nything it is no longer the state run Mao dictatorship imagined, but more as a open market unbridled with a corrupt government using playoffs and manipulation
That can be almost just as brutal in the long run as Mao impacted if you think about it but we are headed in that direction too greed and censorship spying too.
U can make of it what you will
MacFarquhar, Roderick and Fairbank, John K., eds. The Cambridge History of China. Vol. 15: The People's Republic, Part 2: Revolutions within the Chinese Revolution, 19661982. Cambridge U. Press, 1992. 1108 pp.
Also China has a large population Easy to beat out Germany or Belguim with numbers
Didn't they just go to the moon? I can't see us not trading with China
It is how you trade with China that is the ? IMO
Tariffs civil human rights issues to the table policing our own corporations over there or invented in theirs
But cheap endless labor in a corporate wet dream of few manufacturing regulations and less labor laws and that labor hungry for money - that is why IMO
Blame Nixon for starting it and we put our country up for sale
Now they bought us we really are not calling the game
Itntl Corps are as much as the communist party
There is censorship human rights political prisoners but most here want cheap stuff and over there the economy is still going strong despite the environmental assault
plus the majority people don't rise up now as long as Chinese Idol comes on brought to you by Ford every Tuesday
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EX500rider
(10,829 posts)....was extremely barbaric and was the basis for Conrad's novel "Heart of Darkness" upon which "Apocalypse Now" was based.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Our school system pretty much ignored Africa when teaching us history.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)are moral.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)The people who would suffer the most would be the poor. Mao is dead, so we have no justification to cut off trade.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)... rather than taxing the rich.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Hey those untaxed rich are just fine ! International investments replace any loyalty or due to one's country of origin
Repugs know the base and what is good for them