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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:06 PM Jul 2014

RFK Jr. Joins the Anti-Vaccine Fringe

http://time.com/3012797/vaccine-rfk-jr-thimerosal/

A man who used to tell hard truths now peddles dangerous nonsense

There are lots of places to go if you want dangerous crazytalk. There are websites, blog threads, cable channels trafficking in all kinds of addled nonsense about birther conspiracies and one-world governments. And then there was Robert Kennedy, Jr., the tireless, honest climate hero long famous for fighting the very good fight.

But that was then. RFK, Jr. may still know a thing or two about global warming, but he has taken a disreputable plunge into the world of anti-science with his new and inexplicable crusade: warning people about the dangers of vaccines.

Let’s be clear: Kennedy will tell you he’s not against vaccines themselves, but rather, against thimerosal, a vaccine preservative purportedly responsible for the rise in autism in the U.S. He’s even publishing a new book—Thimerosal: Let the Science Speak—making this frightening point. The problem is: he’s wrong—utterly wrong, so wrong it’s hard even to know what the biggest piece of that wrongness is.

But let’s start with a single fact that ought to be, as the lawyers like to say, dispositive: the thimerosal ain’t there. With the exception of the flu vaccine, it was removed from or reduced to trace levels in all vaccines given to children under 6-years-old 13 years ago. You face a greater mercury risk eating seafood and fish—and even that danger is low enough that the EPA recently recommended that pregnant and nursing women increase their intake of certain kinds of fish because the nutritional benefits outweigh the theoretical dangers.


Those who knuckle their forelock to the Kennedys will only be too eager to dismiss this article as an ugly smear, and the deliberate trashing of the world's bestest Democrat.

In reality, Kennedy is a dangerous loon, because of the disproportionately large megaphone he's able to wield.

I'm sure there will be more articles critical of RFK Jr leading up to the release of his book.

And I'll be happy to post 'em in GD.

Sid
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RFK Jr. Joins the Anti-Vaccine Fringe (Original Post) SidDithers Jul 2014 OP
SidDithers of DU goes after RFK, Jr., again. Octafish Jul 2014 #1
Well, obviously he's being paid by the NSA to spread disinformation and smears NuclearDem Jul 2014 #3
I used to have the cubicle next to him....Jeebus what a freak show that msanthrope Jul 2014 #20
I heard tell that the man was a regular fart machine!!! MADem Jul 2014 #21
Though true, he was engaged in a scientific study at that time etherealtruth Jul 2014 #28
In other words, if given a choice, one should pick the "smart feller" MADem Jul 2014 #30
... NuclearDem Jul 2014 #31
I'm convinced that if I go back far enough in my ancestral tree, that I will MADem Jul 2014 #32
Is it true that there are no pictures of Sid Dithers and Ted Cruz in the same room? (n/t) Jim Lane Jul 2014 #25
Probably because Sid has a restraining order for threatening the cretin! MADem Jul 2014 #33
Do you think he is being paid? zappaman Jul 2014 #5
To keep us from ever finding out what really happened in Dallas in 1963. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #7
*sigh* zappaman Jul 2014 #8
Or do we? NuclearDem Jul 2014 #10
Whoa! zappaman Jul 2014 #12
Maybe because he's an asshole? Archae Jul 2014 #6
Obviously, SidDithers IS RFK Jr. Orrex Jul 2014 #9
It's so crazy it must be true! NuclearDem Jul 2014 #11
So, maybe he can tell us what's up with Larry David's former TV wife....? MADem Jul 2014 #22
Perhaps because RFK, Jr. is promoting anti-science nonsense? HuckleB Jul 2014 #14
Because RFK Jr. is a dangerous crank, and his anti-vaccine bullshit should be exposed for all to see SidDithers Jul 2014 #16
According to our esteemed poster, 2013 is the year the Kennedy kids reveal zappaman Jul 2014 #18
Because of shit like this, perhaps? NickB79 Jul 2014 #17
Apparently, shit like that doesn't matter when the anti-vax crank is a Kennedy... SidDithers Jul 2014 #19
Yes, RFK is a dangerous crank Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #2
Most of these bozos screaming about it were likely bathing their eyes in it before they went on TV. MADem Jul 2014 #23
Nasal spray too. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #35
"Joins"? NuclearDem Jul 2014 #4
Kick and Rec! zappaman Jul 2014 #13
When a Kennedy adds his or her voice to a discussion it's heard loud and clear.. mountain grammy Jul 2014 #15
TRUE! I come from the land of John and Ted, but when they talk out their behinds, they need to be MADem Jul 2014 #24
The Kennedys are owed no fealty REP Jul 2014 #26
Nailed it... SidDithers Jul 2014 #34
I thought he's been antivaccine for years now. mucifer Jul 2014 #27
He has, but he's got an anti-vax book coming out... SidDithers Jul 2014 #29
I despise anti-vaxxers -JFK Jr is a nut job as far as I'm concerned ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #36
Heheh... SidDithers Jul 2015 #37
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
3. Well, obviously he's being paid by the NSA to spread disinformation and smears
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jul 2014

And if you think that's the worst of it, he never puts on a new pot of coffee for the rest of us after he finishes it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. I heard tell that the man was a regular fart machine!!!
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 04:00 PM
Jul 2014



Overly Enthusiastic Alerters, Jurors, and Fellow DUers: This is Extreme -- I do not actually think Sid or anyone else who is a "regular" here works or worked for NSA--unless they identify themselves as such-- and I think that those kinds of "viper in our midst" suggestions, particularly when directed at known members, are rude and disruptive, frankly!

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
28. Though true, he was engaged in a scientific study at that time
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 08:23 PM
Jul 2014

There have been a rash of stories spreading on the internet about a study that supposedly concluded that smelling farts could decrease the risk of cancer, stroke, arthritis, erectile dysfunction, dementia, and several other ailments. While it should go without saying that this conclusion was taken entirely out of context, apparently we need to slow down and take it from the start.
...
So, to anyone who has been subjecting loved ones to increased amounts of pungent flatulence over the weekend and telling them it’s good for them: you owe them one hell of an apology.

Read more at http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/can-smelling-farts-cure-cancer#zq27woF88joI5TfI.99





MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. I'm convinced that if I go back far enough in my ancestral tree, that I will
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 10:10 PM
Jul 2014

discover that Seth McFarland and I share a common ancestor!

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
10. Or do we?
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:27 PM
Jul 2014

I mean, if we have people so obviously interested in calling out anti-vax nonsense from someone who also has alternate explanations for Dallas 1963, then the real reason they must be going after him is because they're part of the cover up.

I mean, that logic totally holds up, guys.

Archae

(46,318 posts)
6. Maybe because he's an asshole?
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:16 PM
Jul 2014

I'm sure you will agree, that people like Dick Cheney, George Bush, and Ted Cruz are assholes.

Why?

Because of what they say.

So if a liberal hero says something stupid, and then doubles down on it, doesn't that make that liberal an asshole also?
Easy answer, it does.

Cynthia McKinney has some liberal credentials, but she couldn't keep her big mouth shut and made a total ass of herself.

http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2011/11/266-cynthia-mckinney.html

Is pointing out her stupidity "slander?"

By your "logic," it is.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. So, maybe he can tell us what's up with Larry David's former TV wife....?
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 04:05 PM
Jul 2014

Run, Cheryl......RUUUUUUUUUUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kick off those shoes and run barefoot, if it gives ya more speed! Run, child, and do not look back! RUUNNNNNN!!!


EXCLUSIVE: The wedding is still on: RFK Jr WILL marry Cheryl Hines despite affair allegations with surgeon's wife
Sources close to Professor Laurence Kirwan say he is 'well aware' his wife Chelsea Chapman Kirwan struck up a close friendship with RFK Jr before their 2012 split
The relationship is set to be publicized in court next month as part of Prof Kirwan's ongoing divorce battle with Chelsea
Now, Prof Kirwan's lawyers could depose RFK Jr to give evidence as to the exact nature of his relationship with Chelsea
Chelsea met RFK Jr, who will marry actress Cheryl Hines at Kennedy compound in Hyannis Port this summer, in a New York state gym
Sources say Chelsea's phone records show FIVE calls to RFK Jr in one day


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2671297/RFK-Jr-WILL-marry-Cheryl-Hines-despite-affair-allegations-surgeons-wife.html#ixzz38PzSqwkw

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
14. Perhaps because RFK, Jr. is promoting anti-science nonsense?
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 02:15 PM
Jul 2014

What's the problem with pointing that out?

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
16. Because RFK Jr. is a dangerous crank, and his anti-vaccine bullshit should be exposed for all to see
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 02:41 PM
Jul 2014

Octafish of DU defends RFK Jr again. Why would you do that?

Do you, also, think that thimerosal causes autism?

Sid

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
18. According to our esteemed poster, 2013 is the year the Kennedy kids reveal
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 03:13 PM
Jul 2014

all they know about the assassinations!
The truth will come out about the conspiracies.
When will 2013 get here?

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
19. Apparently, shit like that doesn't matter when the anti-vax crank is a Kennedy...
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jul 2014

Thanks for the reminder of how it used to be.

Vaccines have been such an enormous public health success, that people have forgotten just how bad these preventable diseases were.

Sid

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
2. Yes, RFK is a dangerous crank
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jul 2014

and he's stupidly wrong anyway; thimerosal was never in the MMR vaccine (which is the vaccine the anti-vaccine cranks most often link with autism, based on a flawed and fraudulent paper). Thimerosal was removed from all childhood vaccines over a decade ago; autism rates? Failed to decline.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. Most of these bozos screaming about it were likely bathing their eyes in it before they went on TV.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jul 2014

It's a common ingredient in contact lens solutions and rinses (I know because I'm allergic to it--turns my eyes blood red!).

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
15. When a Kennedy adds his or her voice to a discussion it's heard loud and clear..
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jul 2014

even when they are dead wrong, like RFK Jr. is about vaccines and Patrick Kennedy about marijuana.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. TRUE! I come from the land of John and Ted, but when they talk out their behinds, they need to be
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jul 2014

checked. HARD! Those two examples you've mentioned are ones that are most deserving of course correction, certainly.

They should not be allowed to use ancestral/familial fame to get a bigger megaphone. Every time one of 'em talks garbage, they diminish the family name and legacy!

REP

(21,691 posts)
26. The Kennedys are owed no fealty
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jul 2014

When any of them promotes an assinine opinion, they deserved to be called on it. Their name should not protect them from scrutiny.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
34. Nailed it...
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:26 PM
Jul 2014

and the wailing and gnashing of teeth, 'Leave the Kennedys alone!!', is pitiful.

Sid

mucifer

(23,530 posts)
27. I thought he's been antivaccine for years now.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 08:09 PM
Jul 2014

Anyway, I agree. I am a pediatric hospice nurse and I don't want more patients.

Thank You Sid!

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
29. He has, but he's got an anti-vax book coming out...
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 08:55 PM
Jul 2014

so he's getting a bunch of press right now. And some of the media are playing catch-up.

And i think Pediatrics nurses are wonderful.

Sid

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
36. I despise anti-vaxxers -JFK Jr is a nut job as far as I'm concerned
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 01:40 AM
Jul 2015

But this thread is the funniest I've read in a long time--DUzy's all through it!

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