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Just got this email, two more shows canceled:
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Good afternoon,
Ted Nugents appearances at Emerald Queen Casino have been cancelled.
Thank you,
XXXX XXXXXX
Marketing Representative
Emerald Queen Hotel & Casinos
His schedules was:
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Ted Nugent
Aug 2, 2014
Sat, 8:30 PM
Emerald Queen Casino
Tacoma, WA
Ted Nugent
Aug 3, 2014
Sun, 7:00 PM
Emerald Queen Casino
Tacoma, WA
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)What on earth could you be referring to?
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MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)And you can be sure it is not peanut buttet! LOL
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)mikekohr
(2,312 posts)Initech
(100,065 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Not guitar playing, as he sucks on guitar, but pants shitting. He's a master pants shitter, a performance artist extraordinaire. He can shit pants like no other.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)McCain is not impressed.
QuestForSense
(653 posts)I heard he stinks at it.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Current candidates for his show:
"Brotherhood of the Traveling Shit Pants"
"The Howdy Doody Show"
"Diarrhea of a Wimpy Kid"
Raine
(30,540 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Snort!
Boomerproud
(7,952 posts)I can smell the stench from here.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)American Indians, Unclean Vermin.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)brewens
(13,577 posts)"Great White Buffalo"?
There was a time when Native Americans probably really loved him.
rustydog
(9,186 posts)I have just about puked very time the commercial comes on, or the radio ad touting the one hit wonder, poaching coward coming to
Washington.
good, this dill-weed does have a right to free speech, yes he does. He also must be willing and able to accept the consequences for his "free" speech.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Poor ol' Ted probably never had a clue that he was pissing in his own lunchbox by making those racist comments.
Ted's Facebook letter to Prez Obama:
July 19 at 11:47am ·
Thanx alot US government numbnuts. We went from the last best place to the dumbest fkn idiots on planet earth. How else can you xplain that we are the ONLY country in the world that has abandoned the very foundation of what makes a country a country. Obama you dumb mthrfkr you!
Dear Mr. Obama, Senate and Congress:
I'm planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.
We're planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements.
snip---
Do you see how stupid this looks when you put it in writing??
https://www.facebook.com/tednugent/posts/10152275535327297
Yes, Ted, we really do see how stupid it looks when you write it.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)I'd contribute
I'll give more if I get to pick the location
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)I was literally (and I mean literally) garnering support for a letter and email and call barrage. I'm not surprised they beat me to the punch.
Take THAT, you disgusting, vile, pathetic excuse for an American and a human.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)Nobody can stand to hear "Cat Scratch Fever" anymore.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I think the only reason people buy them is to see if it stops on stage.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)These are very rough figures... theres a lot of variables... does he promote his own shows, or book through a promoter? Size of venues and what market will bear for ticket prices? Tour bus a Road crew? Tour bus and driver? Road crew? etc. I do a bit of work in the business, so I can make some rough estimates for an "average" show, but keep in mind they're very rough.
Ticket sales - $20,000. Venue might get approx 25%, about 25% between booking and promoting agents. Nugent gets about $10K
Merchandise sales - $10,000. About half is typically CDs, half T-shirts and other stuff. Nugent might get about 20% of CD sales at best... rest goes to his label. Nugent gets $1000. T-shirts, Nugent gets all of proceeds, subtracting cost he gets about $2500. Other costs - he might pay his band in the neighborhood of $1000-2000, lets call it $1500. Merchandise guy, sound guy, 1 roadie - lets say $600. Bus and driver - this could vary wildly, but lets say $2000/day.
Totals - The whole show grosses about $30,000, venue keeps $5000, booking/promoter keeps $5000. Nugent's record label gets $4000. T-shirts, etc costs $2500. Band costs $1500, road crew costs $600, bus/driver $2000, and lets say $600/ day for hotel/food. Total costs - about $21,200. Nugent makes a bit under $10K/ show. If show is cancelled, he not only doesn't make the $10K, he still incurs some of the tour costs. The boycotts do cost him money.
As an aside, the small bands that tour... theres no bus, theres an old van and trailer. Road crew is one guy who drives, helps load in, handles merch, helps load out. Band does good to get $1000 in tickets and $500 in CDs/merch... often less, much less. Sometimes not enough for gas to the next show. Food is McD's, truck stop, 7-11, etc. Hotels are pretty much out of the question. Tough way to make a living.
TexasTowelie
(112,136 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Thats just to feed his ego, and to keep in the news. Otherwise, he'd be a forgotten has-been. As a wild guess, he makes about $1M/yr touring, assuming 100 shows. Releasing a new album, he might do 200 shows that year in support. Probably another $200K in CD/merch sales not from touring, and $200K in songwriting royalties from his crappy songs. Probably very little on books and TV guest appearences.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)JohLast
(81 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Initech
(100,065 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)I'd trade 1 billion Ted Nugents for just 1 Tom Petty. He was a so-so guitar player who rode on the backs of a number of other talented performers. Like most conservatives and the religions they cling to, he sees nothing wrong with racism, bigotry, murdering animals and molesting underaged girls, so he is a perfect fit for both of these institutions that need to be completely obliterated before the human race can move forward.
madashelltoo
(1,698 posts)Throw dirt up . . . Dirt comes down. Duck, Ted! You've thrown a lot of shit up.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)I have never understood it. He peaked with the Amboy Dukes and that isn't saying much. Of the serious guitarists I know, I know a few and I don't know their politics, all think he is a joke.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)And my friends are always eager to talk about their influences and musicians they like.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)at the Atlanta Municipal Auditorium. I bought tickets to the afternoon and evening shows. The first act was the Irish rock group Eire Apparent, followed by the Amboy Dukes (led by Nugent), The Soft Machine, the Vanilla Fudge, and finally Mr. Hendrix. When I first heard Ted Nugent play, churning out clean but unimaginative licks on his Gibson Byrdland hollowbody, I thought to myself "not bad, not bad". Then I heard the sizzling guitar playing of Vinny Martelluccci of the Vanilla Fudge, especially that cool arabesque sounding intro to "You Keep Me Hangin' On" and of course the rafters-melting chops of Jimi Hendrix on blues like Red House and tunes like "Can You See Me?" and Nugent became a distant memory. Nugent wasn't even the second best guitarist on that stage and was blown off the stage by Hendrix. Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes for some reason didn't even show up for the second show in the evening.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)No doubt Nugent tried to avoid playing on the same stage as real pros after that!
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)already know him. Only person I ever saw to equal Hendrix and SRV, and I think he edges ahead of Clapton.
Sorry if anyone objects to the distraction, but nobody can mention guitars around me w/o my chiming in for Simo. Who also happens to be a nice young man, btw.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)He just strummed it one too many times, that racist chord that annoys so many and grates against the soul.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)I knew Charlie when he had a group called Tanglewood in Grand Rapids Mi. We played on the same circuit. Ted had been cruising clubs for new band members (which he was always needing because no one could stand him) and hired Charlie. The bullshit story was that Charlie got fired for drinking. Teds mom was an alcoholic so I guess Ted has an attitude about it. Every musician that has ever worked with or for Ted says the same thing ...Ted is an arrogant asshole. Thing is ...Ted doesn't need to work. He invested in index funds way back when he first got going with the Amboy Dukes. My long time friend sold Ted property in upper lower Michigan where he stocked his own game for hunting. Unless he blew his money and needs these jobs I doubt he will be hurt by the cancellations. If there are contracts then someone is going to pay. I hope the worst for Ted because he deserves it.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)And you can see he IS horribly insulted. The more so the better, in my book.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)William Carr ?@yllib1234 · Jul 23
@TedNugent #WellmontTheater vows never to book #TedNudgent again as Montclair's Citizens Protest 6/22/14
http://baristanet.com/2014/07/protest-pictures-rally-ted-nugent-performance-wellmont-theater/
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)He's so hateful. He had it coming. He could have handled the first cancellation with some grace and learned from it. Instead, he inserted his foot deeply into his own mouth and started his typical hateful right wing racist babbling. The original and the next cancellations are his own doing and he had it coming.