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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Iron Curtain Of Vladimir Putin Is Starting To Rust Away...
As you can imagine, the last few days have been a roller coaster ride on the Russian internet. The first reaction to the downing of MH-17 was panic. They were trying to shoot down Putins plane! Two doubles took off from Amsterdam at the same time, one filled with corpses who all had new passports and totally new Facebook pages! The second wave of the pro-Putinists was despair It is all over now! The only thing standing between us and slavery to Western interests is our beloved Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin! Complete fantasy, but thats how the propaganda ministry
I mean, RT
works: shaping facts to fit the needs and desires of the Russian government
specifically, those of Vladimir Putin.
Now, already, it seems that they are quickly realizing that everything has changed. The anti-Putin journalists and posters are becoming much more courageous than they have been in recent months about opposing Putin directly. Here is a piece from Slon.ru, the Russian version of Salon:
The nighttime address to the nation was something unprecedented, and even more unprecedented was its content, in the sense that there was no content in this speech at all. Why did Putin call up his press service, cameramen, make-up artists, and internet site workers and many others at 2 in the morning? Just to repeat once more that there would have been no tragedy if there hadnt been any war in the Donbass, to call for peace negotiations and inviting ICAO aviation experts to the site of the crash? Couldnt these two and a half points waited until the morning?
They have a point. Putin held a news conference, in which he denied that Russia had supplied the separatists with a BUK missile system or any other weapons, and suggested that the Ukrainian government is the prime suspect in the crash. Air Force Lieutenant General Igor Makushev said that Russian radar detected the presence of Ukrainian fighter jets close to the Malaysian flight, suggesting that one of them may have shot down the airliner. Unfortunately for Russia, the scant evidence available doesnt appear to support its fighter jet theory. Photographs of wreckage riddled with holes have begun surfacing on social media, and experts say that suggests the plane was targeted by a missile that exploded nearby. After analyzing photos taken by New York Times reporters, IHS Janes, a defense consultancy, concluded that the damage was consistent with that caused by a BUK system. The missiles are designed to explode below a target, increasing the likelihood that a fast-moving Western military aircraft will be damaged even if it avoids a direct hit.
The pro-Putin people have seen their arguments fall to pieces against the reality of the situation. Putin is being portrayed as in a total panic, with reason. The anti-Putin forces are worried about what he might do in such a state, but he is no longer being seen as the man in control. It makes the entire spectacle riveting to watch. What happens when a tsars propaganda becomes completely untenable in a internet media world? What he can get away with at home is not as possible when your proxies in the pro-Russian rebels take down a plane from the civilized world. That video statement from Putin in the early hours of the morning betrays his knowledge that events have run out of his control, and that hes quickly losing ground and face. The body language, the deflected gaze, the nervousness this is no longer a predator, or if it is, its one who is finding himself losing control of the pack. A tsar never had to do this, or felt compelled to do this. Hes hanging by a thread, and we should take some pleasure in watching him struggle.
*snip*
- See more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/iron-curtain-vladimir-putin-starting-rust-away/#sthash.3nKCfD1L.dpuf
Now, already, it seems that they are quickly realizing that everything has changed. The anti-Putin journalists and posters are becoming much more courageous than they have been in recent months about opposing Putin directly. Here is a piece from Slon.ru, the Russian version of Salon:
The nighttime address to the nation was something unprecedented, and even more unprecedented was its content, in the sense that there was no content in this speech at all. Why did Putin call up his press service, cameramen, make-up artists, and internet site workers and many others at 2 in the morning? Just to repeat once more that there would have been no tragedy if there hadnt been any war in the Donbass, to call for peace negotiations and inviting ICAO aviation experts to the site of the crash? Couldnt these two and a half points waited until the morning?
They have a point. Putin held a news conference, in which he denied that Russia had supplied the separatists with a BUK missile system or any other weapons, and suggested that the Ukrainian government is the prime suspect in the crash. Air Force Lieutenant General Igor Makushev said that Russian radar detected the presence of Ukrainian fighter jets close to the Malaysian flight, suggesting that one of them may have shot down the airliner. Unfortunately for Russia, the scant evidence available doesnt appear to support its fighter jet theory. Photographs of wreckage riddled with holes have begun surfacing on social media, and experts say that suggests the plane was targeted by a missile that exploded nearby. After analyzing photos taken by New York Times reporters, IHS Janes, a defense consultancy, concluded that the damage was consistent with that caused by a BUK system. The missiles are designed to explode below a target, increasing the likelihood that a fast-moving Western military aircraft will be damaged even if it avoids a direct hit.
The pro-Putin people have seen their arguments fall to pieces against the reality of the situation. Putin is being portrayed as in a total panic, with reason. The anti-Putin forces are worried about what he might do in such a state, but he is no longer being seen as the man in control. It makes the entire spectacle riveting to watch. What happens when a tsars propaganda becomes completely untenable in a internet media world? What he can get away with at home is not as possible when your proxies in the pro-Russian rebels take down a plane from the civilized world. That video statement from Putin in the early hours of the morning betrays his knowledge that events have run out of his control, and that hes quickly losing ground and face. The body language, the deflected gaze, the nervousness this is no longer a predator, or if it is, its one who is finding himself losing control of the pack. A tsar never had to do this, or felt compelled to do this. Hes hanging by a thread, and we should take some pleasure in watching him struggle.
*snip*
- See more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/iron-curtain-vladimir-putin-starting-rust-away/#sthash.3nKCfD1L.dpuf
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The Iron Curtain Of Vladimir Putin Is Starting To Rust Away... (Original Post)
one_voice
Jul 2014
OP
Something something Victoria Nuland something something in my hand I have a list of neocons
conservaphobe
Jul 2014
#2
Tarheel_Dem
(31,222 posts)1. But..but...he's got a 83% approval rating. He's king of the world. n/t
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)3. 70 bajillion households!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,222 posts)7. And they're "expanding to Latin America" too!!!
conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)2. Something something Victoria Nuland something something in my hand I have a list of neocons
AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT!
(insert link to consortiumnews)
(quote from unnamed source vindicating Putin)
(righteously indignant rant)
Neener neener neener.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)6. LOL!
Separation
(1,975 posts)5. Watch out!
You might get a sarcastic and disgusting reply with a video game called ARMA showing the shoot down of a commercial aircraft.
Even in the face of all the facts that have come out, I can't believe there are some still playing, ignorant, blind, or just plain dumb.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,222 posts)8. I'm not sure they're "playing".
4now
(1,596 posts)9. Putin's fall will be interesting to watch.