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kentuck

(111,037 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 05:36 PM Jul 2014

Israel agrees to 12-hour truce starting tomorrow morning..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/gaza-fighting-pause_n_5622017.html

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CAIRO, July 25 (Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has told U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry that Israel will begin a 12-hour pause in Gaza hostilities starting at 7 am Israeli time (0400 GMT) on Saturday, a U.S. official said on Friday.

The official, who spoke to reporters on condition of anonymity, made the comment when asked about Kerry's earlier statement on a goodwill gesture by Netanyahu at a press conference in Cairo. (Reporting by Arshad Mohammed; Writing by Oliver Holmes; Editing by Susan Fenton)
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Israel agrees to 12-hour truce starting tomorrow morning.. (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2014 OP
Has Hamas agreed to a cease fire? NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #1
don't want to know what they'll do until then. KittyWampus Jul 2014 #2
Good news BainsBane Jul 2014 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Jul 2014 #4
Stuff it. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #5
Past suicide bombers don't excuse the murder of nearly a thousand by Israel. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #7
You know, during the intifadas, didn't see very many condemnations of the suicide bombers. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #9
Not so. But there are three big differences anyway. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #11
Hopefully they can stop this war and work as hard for peace as the do blowing each other Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #6
There won't be peace until Israel decides to free the West Bank. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #8
Israel does not like rockets flying all of the time. To be honest it appears both sides thinks they Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #10
What part of no agreement is possible don't you get? BillZBubb Jul 2014 #12
Hey there will be more Palestinians killed and perhaps a few Israeli, what part of the continued Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #14
Right wing elements BlindTiresias Jul 2014 #13
What has been accomplished so far? Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #15
What do you mean? BlindTiresias Jul 2014 #16
Have the gained their freedom? Seems like people are dying and they talk past Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #18
Well... BlindTiresias Jul 2014 #19
I don't agree with the Palestinians not having a country but sending bombs into Israel Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #20
Granted BlindTiresias Jul 2014 #23
Surely there may be some pressure placed on both sides, for years there has been Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #24
Well BlindTiresias Jul 2014 #25
You nailed it RobertEarl Jul 2014 #26
About when we return the Alamo to Mexico. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #22
Like all Israeli apologists, you need a history lesson. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #28
These two paragraphs Boom Sound 416 Jul 2014 #17
Guarantee Hamas will lob rockets. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #21
Good. Here's to hoping that this results in meaningful talks and an end to this morningfog Jul 2014 #27

Response to kentuck (Original post)

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
9. You know, during the intifadas, didn't see very many condemnations of the suicide bombers.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 06:50 PM
Jul 2014

Or of the culture celebrating them.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
11. Not so. But there are three big differences anyway.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:20 PM
Jul 2014

There were plenty of condemnations of the suicide bombers both in the US and abroad.

There are reasons Israel seems to get more condemnation here though. First, the US financially supports Israel and Israel ignores our concerns. Second, we expect more from Israel than the Palestinians. Israel is supposed to support our values. Finally, Israel is occupying the Palestinian's land and maintains a cruel occupation. So, the Palestinians lashing out irrationally is not unexpected. Most occupied peoples attack their occupiers in whatever way they can.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. Hopefully they can stop this war and work as hard for peace as the do blowing each other
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 06:24 PM
Jul 2014

Apart. Israel uses their iron very well and Hamas does not have one, it is only getting Palestinians killed.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
8. There won't be peace until Israel decides to free the West Bank.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 06:44 PM
Jul 2014

Israel will never do that until forced to.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. Israel does not like rockets flying all of the time. To be honest it appears both sides thinks they
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 06:50 PM
Jul 2014

Getting something out of their turmoil. I can see where there is conflict and the Palestinians needs their own country but the firing of rockets is really only getting mostly Palestinians killed. Sit down and iron out some kind of agreement.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
12. What part of no agreement is possible don't you get?
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:23 PM
Jul 2014

Israel won't give back the West Bank without a fight. The Palestinians aren't going to give up their rights to their land. Nor should they. So, the Palestinians know they have to fight.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
14. Hey there will be more Palestinians killed and perhaps a few Israeli, what part of the continued
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:30 PM
Jul 2014

Killing is ever going to be enough. At the current time Israel has the upper hand.

BlindTiresias

(1,563 posts)
13. Right wing elements
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:23 PM
Jul 2014

In Israel have consistently worked to destroy any compromise, and seeing as Israel has all the cards they have to be the primary mover. Read up on Netanyahu and his efforts to dismantle the peace process.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
18. Have the gained their freedom? Seems like people are dying and they talk past
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 10:25 PM
Jul 2014

Each other, so what has been accomplished.

BlindTiresias

(1,563 posts)
19. Well...
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 10:28 PM
Jul 2014

The Israeli right has gotten exactly what they wanted. The situation today is more or less the Likud end game, save for more radical elements that want to bulldoze the Palestinian territories and force the inhabitants to resettle elsewhere.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
20. I don't agree with the Palestinians not having a country but sending bombs into Israel
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 10:41 PM
Jul 2014

Is like a mosquito buzzing your head. It is not going to fix the problem. There needs to be some give enough to talk. The Israeli are killing Palestinians at a fast rate, there is not any peace for them.

BlindTiresias

(1,563 posts)
23. Granted
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 10:49 PM
Jul 2014

But you are essentially calling for a political entity in a sort of limbo to act in a way only highly organized nation states can act, that is to say, the total and complete cessation of violence. Granted, Hamas was able to curb the rocket attacks by 98% in 2013 but the Israeli right wing will use the outlying events that are extremely difficult to curb in order to lash out violently, which in turn sets off the cycle of violence again. Asking for 100% cessation of violence by everyone in Palestine is unrealistic and Likud is fully aware of this fact and uses it to great effect.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
24. Surely there may be some pressure placed on both sides, for years there has been
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 10:55 PM
Jul 2014

Attempts to get peace in the area without good results. The bombs on either side will not bring peace only more deaths.

BlindTiresias

(1,563 posts)
25. Well
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:02 PM
Jul 2014

From what I understand Hamas was recently mending their ties with the PLO which would essentially de-militarize Hamas and enable a more unified government for a two-state solution or some kind of integration. This was likely blown up by the latest escalation of violence, which was sparked by individuals who had splintered from Hamas kidnapping those three teenagers and the resultant Israeli reprisal where they arrested hundreds, specifically targeting Hamas aligned individuals. My general point is the greater burden of restraint and leadership should be on the stronger party, which is Israel. However, you essentially have a very powerful right wing there whose entire existence is predicated upon a state of eternal war with the Palestinians, not unlike American neo-conservatives. I don't see how this will be resolved without external pressure and a hard handed approach against Hamas militants -and- the Israeli right.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
26. You nailed it
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:05 PM
Jul 2014

The right-winger, pro war mentality is winning and is in control of Israel.

Can't believe people don't get that. Especially on DU.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
28. Like all Israeli apologists, you need a history lesson.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:48 PM
Jul 2014

There is no comparison between the two issues.

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