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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:37 AM Jul 2014

Why So Many People Care So Much About Others' Sex Lives

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/07/why-we-care-about-other-peoples-sex-lives/374781/

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Here’s a loaded question: Is casual sex immoral?

From Hester Prynne to Hobby Lobby, from our dorm-mates to our politicians, it’s an issue that’s sparked more than its fair share of fiery public debate (after all, we Americans are a judge-y people). A recent study done by researchers at Cornell and New York University summed it up this way: Casual sex is psychologically good for you if you if think it’s acceptable, but not if you don’t.

So the answer, clearly, depends on who’s being asked—but odds are that either way, they won’t feel tepid about it.

Your answer may depend, at least in part, on where your money comes from (if you’re a woman) or where it goes (if you’re a man). At least, that’s the argument of a paper recently published in The Archives of Sexual Behavior, which found that promiscuity—by both men and women—is more likely to be considered a moral violation in places where women are economically dependent on men.
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Why So Many People Care So Much About Others' Sex Lives (Original Post) xchrom Jul 2014 OP
"Puritanism. The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy." - H. L. Mencken nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #1
seems like that line has been hijacked by today's GOP! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2014 #15
Interesting thesis. Thanks for posting. n/t Laelth Jul 2014 #2
because a huge number of Americans watch 'fantasy' porn everyday, even at work & school. Sunlei Jul 2014 #3
You so know porn is generally free Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #4
That no one is profiting.... daleanime Jul 2014 #26
No one but the website that hosts it. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #27
Wouldn't that violate the 1st Amendment? AngryAmish Jul 2014 #6
What? Action_Patrol Jul 2014 #12
I think you're mixing up cause and effect bhikkhu Jul 2014 #13
A useless jesture today... Lancero Jul 2014 #24
My 2 cents; no. SamKnause Jul 2014 #5
It is the unpaid voluntarily auxillary sex police. AngryAmish Jul 2014 #7
To each there own beliefs Pakid Jul 2014 #8
It's a matter of the owners supervising their property, pretty much. bemildred Jul 2014 #9
+1 short and to the point. xchrom Jul 2014 #21
Prudery is always accompanied by the assumption that one has a right to supervise other people. bemildred Jul 2014 #22
indeed. those subtleties are always lost in our conversation about this. xchrom Jul 2014 #23
Good observation and well stated. daleo Jul 2014 #31
Reminds me of the Vogon captain in "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" Jerry442 Jul 2014 #10
Is casual sex immoral? ReRe Jul 2014 #11
FYI, couples modify their marriage agreements at times. Trillo Jul 2014 #29
I'm sorry... ReRe Jul 2014 #30
Their body, their choice. When it comes to sex and personal choices it ain't no one's business The Straight Story Jul 2014 #14
Leave my fucking farm animals alone ...damn it! L0oniX Jul 2014 #16
So the non-fucking farm animals Codeine Jul 2014 #33
There's no mystery packman Jul 2014 #17
Standardized testing and a national Codeine Jul 2014 #34
People tend to covet what they don't have? PolarVortex Jul 2014 #18
They can't have their own and El Shaman Jul 2014 #19
That thesis (though many replying appear not to have read it) makes sense. In those Squinch Jul 2014 #20
"flower must never go from bee to bee to be..." - Rodgers/hammerstein, the King and I nt msongs Jul 2014 #25
Jealousy? Tom_Foolery Jul 2014 #28
Recommend. nt Zorra Jul 2014 #32
I tell all of 'em this.... Quantess Jul 2014 #35
Funny, cause some of the same people defending the 50 Shades book BainsBane Jul 2014 #36

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
3. because a huge number of Americans watch 'fantasy' porn everyday, even at work & school.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:55 AM
Jul 2014

IMO, that's why some people are so obsessed about others.

We should tax the hell out of porn at the consumer level, a very high tax. Make some good state and federal revenue off that legal obsession.

bhikkhu

(10,713 posts)
13. I think you're mixing up cause and effect
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 09:53 AM
Jul 2014

People are obsessed with the sex lives of other people, or with sex in general, therefore they watch porn. Personally, I don't think its anything other than a mild observation of "that's the way people are".

Anyone have a dog? Notice how they are obsessed with people eating, and food in general. That's the way they are - no big deal, as long as it doesn't cause harmful behavior.

Lancero

(3,002 posts)
24. A useless jesture today...
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 11:46 AM
Jul 2014

Might have worked in the past, when porn was only avaliable by tape and later disc, but now you can get it for free with a simple google search.

Pakid

(478 posts)
8. To each there own beliefs
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 08:37 AM
Jul 2014

just don't try and make anyone else have to follow your beliefs, and we would all be better off.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. It's a matter of the owners supervising their property, pretty much.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 09:08 AM
Jul 2014

The rich, who love to talk of morality, have never paid any attention to it in their own lives.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
22. Prudery is always accompanied by the assumption that one has a right to supervise other people.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 11:33 AM
Jul 2014

And that supposed right is always based in a property relation, a hidden assertion of ownership or control. Like your boss at work has a right to comment on your sexual arrangements for example.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
23. indeed. those subtleties are always lost in our conversation about this.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 11:42 AM
Jul 2014

we have a hard time talking about money, sex and relationships.

money may SEEM invisible or not to matter but it does.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
10. Reminds me of the Vogon captain in "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 09:20 AM
Jul 2014

"...all planet leave is cancelled. I've just had an unhappy love affair so I do don't see why anyone else should have a good time."

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
11. Is casual sex immoral?
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 09:27 AM
Jul 2014

Not unless you took a vow to not do it, like when you marry. If you're single and not interested in a long term relationship, I don't think it's immoral. I don't think other people's sex lives are any of my business. Each to their own. Hell, I've got enough to deal with in life without taking on handling someone else's life.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
29. FYI, couples modify their marriage agreements at times.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 03:25 PM
Jul 2014

A hypothetical example might be when one marriage partner is seriously injured, and can no longer have sex, and doesn't wish their spouse to not have any sex, but they still desire to remain married. See Open Marriage.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
30. I'm sorry...
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:44 PM
Jul 2014

... I forgot to mention rare extenuating circumstances, such as the one you refer to. Again, each to their own.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
14. Their body, their choice. When it comes to sex and personal choices it ain't no one's business
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 10:01 AM
Jul 2014

If people don't like things, say 50 shades for example, don't read it and don't do things you find objectionable in the books/bedroom.

From abortion to bdsm to what you like to eat - I am pro choice and progressive not puritan and regressive.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
17. There's no mystery
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 10:47 AM
Jul 2014

as to why other's are so interested about others sex life - they want to know if they are doing it right and what they could do to improve it.

We need to set a standard. We need charts. We need pictures. We need more inquiry. We need books and films and we need to get the internet involved in this.

El Shaman

(583 posts)
19. They can't have their own and
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 11:03 AM
Jul 2014

for so long - it's in their DNA.

“Man has imagined a heaven, and has left entirely out of it the supremest of all his delights...sexual intercourse!...His heaven is like himself: strange, interesting, astonishing, grotesque. I give you my word, it has not a single feature in it that he actually values.”
~Mark Twain~
P.S.
Mr. Clements was of the Presbyterian sect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1689_Baptist_Confession_of_Faith

Squinch

(50,918 posts)
20. That thesis (though many replying appear not to have read it) makes sense. In those
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 11:23 AM
Jul 2014

parts of the society where women are more economically dependent, you have to ask what the basis of that economic dependence is. It makes a lot of sense that people in those segments will more often have an attitude of ownership of women, which then requires that women have a marketplace valuation as an asset. It's pretty creepy, but it does make sense that would be the thought process.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
35. I tell all of 'em this....
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 11:45 PM
Jul 2014

Here is what I tell self-righteous busybodies: Fuck off and mind your own business.

BainsBane

(53,016 posts)
36. Funny, cause some of the same people defending the 50 Shades book
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 11:46 PM
Jul 2014

Emphasis on some, insisted Hobby Lobby wasn't a big deal.

Here's your answer: rape is immoral. Presenting rape as a means of seduction and conquest of women is also immoral.

Consensual adult sex, whether causal or otherwise, is a matter for those participating.

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