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Archae

(46,326 posts)
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:21 PM Jul 2014

I knew this would happen! (Hobby Lobby backfire)



(BTW, these is the same Satan worshippers who wanted a Satanic monument in that government building that the "Christians wanted to keep a 10 Commandments monuments.)

Satanist Temple Demands 'Hobby Lobby' Style Religious Exemptions From Restrictions To Abortions

By John Amato July 28, 2014 3:24 pm - 18 Comments

The Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby decision, that allows for-profit companies to claim a religious exemption to contraception mandate has now spurred on a Satanist organization to challenge the court's ruling based on their religious freedom.

Oh, this is rich. The Satanist Temple group is demanding that their religious rights be upheld just like the Hobby Lobby corporation's were in the Supreme Court decision that gave credence to the myth that the Plan B pill causes abortions and that corporations not only are people, but they also have religious beliefs that can make them exempt from federal laws.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/07/satanist-temple
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I knew this would happen! (Hobby Lobby backfire) (Original Post) Archae Jul 2014 OP
This is good... TreasonousBastard Jul 2014 #1
120 recs and counting Electric Monk Jul 2014 #2
I want to see this get to 666 recs! Initech Jul 2014 #24
If it does, I know someone... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #28
As I said on a different thread, this would involve an entirely new case. WillowTree Jul 2014 #3
It may need a new case but the basics are the same. A Simple Game Jul 2014 #13
Satan to the rescue! JEFF9K Jul 2014 #4
Competition, it's what made America great rurallib Jul 2014 #5
so what happens if a Satanist opens a women's clinic? booley Jul 2014 #6
my, my, my. the cretins of the reich keep thinking that it is only THEIR religion that is entitled niyad Jul 2014 #7
I imagine they believe their god crim son Jul 2014 #16
Flip Wilson Defense kairos12 Jul 2014 #8
you nearly owed me a keyboard!! niyad Jul 2014 #29
I'm waiting for a Scientology owned organization to want to opt out of paying for Maraya1969 Jul 2014 #9
There really should never be more than 2 people of the same faith serving in the SCOTUS at one time. LAGC Jul 2014 #10
Replace the SCOTUS with a mega computer packman Jul 2014 #12
You'd still have to tell it what values have greater importance FiveGoodMen Jul 2014 #19
Not sure most of the current court would fit bvf Jul 2014 #20
No people working at Muslim companies can eat lunch at the company this week (RAMADAN!) cascadiance Jul 2014 #14
cascadiance lululu Jul 2014 #25
We need some retroactive plan B to give Hobby Lobby. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #11
I bow before Satan. JEB Jul 2014 #15
Power to the DARK LORD... BrainDrain Jul 2014 #17
all hail the prince of darkness... IcyPeas Jul 2014 #18
I have to say I find this appropriately hilarious. dballance Jul 2014 #21
Those 5 right-wing idiots are are just like all the other right-wing idiots. QuestForSense Jul 2014 #22
Yes, you are correct. dballance Jul 2014 #26
Those criminals were serious when they said they were creating law ONLY for religion randys1 Jul 2014 #27
If the Church of Satan will give me the right to control my own body... perdita9 Jul 2014 #23

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. This is good...
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jul 2014

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The Satanic Temple — a faith community that describes itself as facilitating “the communication and mobilization of politically aware Satanists, secularists, and advocates for individual liberty” — has launched a new campaign seeking a religious exemption to certain anti-abortion laws that attempt to dissuade women from ending a pregnancy. The group says they have deeply held beliefs about bodily autonomy and scientific accuracy, and those beliefs are violated by state-level “informed consent” laws that rely on misleading information about abortion risks.

Now that the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby, the Satanists point out, it strengthens their own quest to opt out of laws related to women’s health care that go against their religious liberty. “Because of the respect the Court has given to religious beliefs, and the fact that our our beliefs are based on best available knowledge, we expect that our belief in the illegitimacy of state­ mandated ‘informational’ material is enough to exempt us, and those who hold our beliefs, from having to receive them,” a spokesperson for the organization said in a statement.

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3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
28. If it does, I know someone...
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 08:14 PM
Jul 2014

...who would freak out. She participates at a different, nonpolitical board, and I once saw her jump right on a very long thread with post 667 because the post count had reached 666, and she said "I just couldn't let that number stand."

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
3. As I said on a different thread, this would involve an entirely new case.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jul 2014

This doesn't challenge a federal law that mandates insurance coverage for a given medical procedure, it's about state laws that mandate prerequisites for the performance of the procedure itself.

It'll still be an interesting case, just a whole 'nother case.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
13. It may need a new case but the basics are the same.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 12:01 PM
Jul 2014

Each one is asking for an organization to be excluded from a law based upon religious belief. Different laws but the same reason for exclusion. Not a big stretch to consider both relevant to the same ruling.

In fact in ruling for Hobby Lobby the Supreme Court wasn't saying that corporations were exempt from a law they were saying that corporations could have a religion. Religions already have exemptions from several laws and/or mandates and this just allowed the exemption to include religious corporations.

booley

(3,855 posts)
6. so what happens if a Satanist opens a women's clinic?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:48 PM
Jul 2014

Can they say all the restrictions place on them by the state for arbitrary reasons violate the clinic owner's religious beliefs?

niyad

(113,278 posts)
7. my, my, my. the cretins of the reich keep thinking that it is only THEIR religion that is entitled
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jul 2014

to protections and exemptions.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
16. I imagine they believe their god
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jul 2014

will ensure that other belief systems are ignored. So freaking stupid.

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
9. I'm waiting for a Scientology owned organization to want to opt out of paying for
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:04 PM
Jul 2014

psychiatric services since they think they are evil.

Or a Jehovah's Witness organization refusing to pay for insurance that covers blood transfusions.

LAGC

(5,330 posts)
10. There really should never be more than 2 people of the same faith serving in the SCOTUS at one time.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:23 PM
Jul 2014

This crap like with Hobby Lobby is what happens when a majority of justices share the same faith and allow it to influence their decision-making.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
12. Replace the SCOTUS with a mega computer
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 11:11 AM
Jul 2014

indifferent, uncaring, based on logic. Fill it with every court case from the dawn of time and let it perk along rendering unbiased decisions. Now, that would be interesting.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
19. You'd still have to tell it what values have greater importance
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 02:19 PM
Jul 2014

in order to make the conflict-ridden decisions.

The computer would have to be a truly intelligent life-form before it could do that by itself.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
14. No people working at Muslim companies can eat lunch at the company this week (RAMADAN!)
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 12:02 PM
Jul 2014

Company could tell employees that they have to eat off site if they want to eat at lunch time or wait until the evening!

 

BrainDrain

(244 posts)
17. Power to the DARK LORD...
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:47 PM
Jul 2014

and I don't mean HE-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. Hey devil worshipers have feelings too you know.
 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
21. I have to say I find this appropriately hilarious.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:06 PM
Jul 2014

As Justice Ginsberg rightly pointed out in her dissent the ruling in favor of Hobby Lobby beget far greater consequences than the 5 right-wing idiots could ever predict.

The hens are coming home to roost. Each and every one of the 5 who ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby deserve every bit of bird shit that falls upon them.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
22. Those 5 right-wing idiots are are just like all the other right-wing idiots.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:48 PM
Jul 2014

They only think of themselves; i.e., all for me, but none for thee. That's their ideology in a nutshell.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
27. Those criminals were serious when they said they were creating law ONLY for religion
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:30 PM
Jul 2014

and Women....

Remember, these 5 men HATE Women, VICIOUSLY they hate Women, and they will NOT uphold their findings to apply to ANYTHING other than that which HATES Women and Minorities and Gays, if they can use the law to harm and hate minorities and Gays also, they will, but that is all...

Al Qaeda is in AWE of the terrorism the SC has visited upon us

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
23. If the Church of Satan will give me the right to control my own body...
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:50 PM
Jul 2014

...then I guess I'll be joining the Church of Satan

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