A consolidation of Porn opinions from my reading on DU...

[brooklynite]

BDSM Porn: BAD - It glorifies the abuse of women; no one could participate in such activities for rational reasons.

Non-BDSM Porn: BAD - it objectifies women; no performer could participate in such activities for rational reasons.

Have I missed a category?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

1. furries.

[wyldwolf]

2. THE 17 MOST WTF FETISHES IMAGINABLE

Gut flopping?

http://www.popcrunch.com/the-17-most-wtf-fetishes-imaginable/

[Warren DeMontague]

13. The messy one doesn't seem that weird.

But I'm not sure the reward would be worth the admittedly intensive clean-up process.

[LiberalElite]

30. I had heard of the amputation fetish nt

[wandy]

3. Seriously now. If it doesn't involve an inflatable swimming pool..........

swim fins and a few watermelons, it just ain't porn.

[xfundy]

52. You left out an important ingredient.

'Cuz there's always room for Jell-O.

[AgingAmerican]

4. Fart porn?

I'm sure there is plenty of misogynistic stuff in fart porn!

All the 'Tops' I know in the BDSM world are dominatrix's, so that blows that one out of the water.

[aikoaiko]

5. I travel the world with a map. It helps me go where I want and avoid places I should avoid.

[IMG][/IMG]

[kickitup]

6. Yes you forgot the . . .

All porn is above criticism and only people who are prudes dare to question it category. This can also be referred to as the "Gimme my porn right now while he stomps his foot" category. Honest to God, I am through here. I can find a more nuanced, intellectually stimulating discussion on a sub-reddit.

There seems to be a significant number of people here who are incapable of holding more than one opinion about something in their silly heads at one time. It apparently is beyond their ability to grasp the fact that one can question certain elements found in certain types of porn but have no interest whatsoever in keeping others from porning away to their heart's content be it through consumption or participation.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

9. kickitup

can' let you leave without telling you

[kickitup]

42. I'm staying but thanks. I need DU because living in rural, red Kentucky

makes me think I'm alone politically at times. I guess it will be a love/hate kind of thing,lol. I do hope everybody will unite to help us "Ditch Mitch." I'm scared he is going to win and I don't know why anybody in their right mind would vote for him.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

47. you have my complete and total sympathy =

Lived in parts of Kentucky a few years ago.


and Yes, the turtle must go.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. If someone has a working internet connection and they're coming to DU for porn

they're doing it wrong.

[hifiguy]

53. LOL.

And in response to the OP there are a lot of staunch defenders of the First Amendment (and Voltaire - "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.&quot around these parts.

[leftstreet]

15. I think you're just hearing a few loud voices

(And some of them probably get loud to cover guilt hiding porn use from a loved one, or something immature like that)

I don't think the majority here are afraid to question much of anything, nor do I think they really give two shits what other people do in privacy

[nomorenomore08]

43. Thank you! Some common sense right here.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

48. too bad it falls on deaf ears around here.

[NaturalHigh]

7. I think you got the gist of it.

[The Straight Story]

8. Yeah, I think you missed at least one

Back when there was talk about the SI cover there was some talk about how men liked to just self gratify themselves using any pictures of women not seen as natural (those women were not standing in natural poses, no one stands like that at the beach....)

So porn is any depiction of any person not in a natural way (ie, in a business suit at a meeting table, sitting behind a monitor smoking and drinking, in their PJ's, etc)....so any image of any woman if looked at (leering?) by a man could be seen as porn if he does not comment on the pic in a simple way -- like, "That is a nice photo, I respect the work done in making it and the scene of productivity in the workplace it shows" and so on. Women must be fully clothed/covered, no makeup, think factory worker in China. Otherwise, it is patriarchal misogynist porn men will use.

Porn is everywhere around you, I think it is called 'Ninja Porn' because you cannot see it until someone who understands it shows you it.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. you cannot go against nature, because when you do

goin' against nature, is part of nature too.

[Coventina]

19. No new tale to tell......

[treestar]

10. I'm one who hates the lack of romance

in our society right now. Porn and BDSM just lack that. Heck, sex lacks it, at least the way we look at it now. It's all so clinical or competition related and more like sports or just another job. If you want romance, you have to find novels at least 60 years old.

[Warren DeMontague]

16. It's always the same.

[opiate69]

17. Alternately....

[Warren DeMontague]

18. 50 Shades of OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE

[opiate69]

20. And now I have Country Joe stuck in my head lol

Whoopie! We're all gonna die!
http://m.

[In_The_Wind]

21. Great song!

[conservaphobe]

22. I'd probably be crucified if I discussed my love of sleepwalking porn. nt

[In_The_Wind]

23. Porn and Pony Carts

NSFW ~ The Sleeping Beauty Trilogy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sleeping_Beauty_Trilogy

[Warren DeMontague]

24. Anne Rice had a kinky streak, did she not.

Although we've already been through the unforgivable things Hollywood did to Exit to Eden.

[In_The_Wind]

25. Great imagination.

Love the way she treated both male and female alike.

[The Straight Story]

26. Didn't read it, it sucked

[In_The_Wind]

27. Yes, it did.

Quite successfully FWIW ~ I reread it several times ... alone and with a friend.

[Aristus]

29. Funny story about that.

I was working in a book store once about 20 years ago. An old lady came in to return an audio book. She was upset because she thought she had bought a reading of the classic 'Sleeping Beauty'. Turns out, it was the audio book of the Anne Rice (Roquelaire?) erotic trilogy, read by Amy Brenneman.

I would have loved to have been there when this prim old lady put on the cassette and began listening...

[nolabear]

32. "And that's how Gran met that nice EMT."

[Aristus]

33. HA!

[In_The_Wind]

36. Oh my

Methinks she will never forget what she heard.
Did she listen to book two ...
Wonder what's on her mind when she watches The Kentucky Derby.

[Aristus]

37. After she got her refund, I went over to the bookshelves and found the print version of the book.

I looked it over and determined that she could not have got more than three pages into the story before realizing that she had chosen the wrong 'Sleeping Beauty'.

I never listened to audio book, but I always wondered how Amy Brenneman could have read the whole thing on to tape.

That would have embarrassed the hell out of me...

[In_The_Wind]

38. I was unaware of an audio copy.

I wouldn't have listened to it.

BTW That's rather presumptuous of you to decide the little old lady quit after only 3 pages.

[Aristus]

39. Well, she was pretty upset...

If she...uh...enjoyed...the audio book, wouldn't she have returned to the store to get the other two?...

[kickitup]

41. Anne Rice linked to bad review of the Beauty trilogy on her

Facebook page and it was hilarious because the reviewer was ranting and raving about how disgusted she was ... and she was on the third book!

She was so disgusted she read all three, bless her heart.

[conservaphobe]

50. Wow.

[Warpy]

28. Yeah, you've missed quite a lot

but pretty much covered it for the male-female. Even diaper fetishes could be considered a form of BDSM, along with golden showers.

I discovered the range of porn and sexual kink when I cleaned out student apartments one summer for money under the table. Funny that they'd leave their porn stashes behind with the ripped clothing and funky mattresses covered with stuff I didn't want to speculate about. I used gloves, naturally.

That was the summer I determined to mind my own damned business and let everybody else mind theirs unless I was a witness to somebody getting hurt.

[ecstatic]

34. Lol! nt

[Lurks Often]

31. What about gay porn, does that objectify women as well?

The things humans do for some seconds of involuntary muscle contractions that set off the pleasure receptors in the brain never ceases to amaze me, scare me, interest me and occasionally disgust me.

[kickitup]

44. Women are evidently big consumers of gay erotica. I will

admit I don't understand the appeal, being a straight woman. Many of the writers of gay erotica are also women and I can't understand that either. I write erotica (cough, porn) and I wouldn't be able to do gay sex or even the male sexual experience justice. I mean I have asked my husband to explain to me how a male orgasm feels so I can write a somewhat realistic male point of view but I feel limited in my ability to do so.

[Lurks Often]

51. Some women like the idea of or watching two or more men

go at it, some don't. I've always been curious about what the woman feels during sex.

We've come a long way in a relatively short time frame, same sex marriages are rapidly becoming legal everywhere, women being bi-sexual is generally accepted and even the idea of men actually be bi-sexual (as opposed to being gay and in denial about it) is coming to be acceptable.

With the United States being such a relatively prudish country, the leaps and bounds of progress in our views regarding sex and relationships we've made in just the past 20 years remains somewhat of a surprise to me. Course we still have a ways to go, but we are making progress.

[JEFF9K]

35. Anyone who's been in an adult book store knows that ...

... only half of porn even involves women. So, at most, these women are half right.

[genwah]

40. Really? This is what's important? I'm a retired sex-worker with my share of porn out there, and

I'm really wondering why people spend time here. mean "Democratic" is right there in the name of the site, but what are we doing for Democratic ideals, Democratic action, and what? We're arguing over a crappy BDSM book that may be a good movie based on a crappy book, and for what?

Is anyone here interested in DOING SOMETHING to change the congress? In moving the Overton window a little? Yes, BDSM porn is cute, and fun for people outside of the community, but is that what this community (lightheartedly called the "Democratic Underground" is for? Opinions about porn? Who cares?

[JEFF9K]

45. This site is certainly not aptly named.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

49. well, The Underground part works pretty well

[Warren DeMontague]

46. you've been here since 2006, right?

Surely you've noticed by now that actual political discussions are generally dwarfed by circumcision-PETA-Thanksgiving-Olive Garden-Kids in Airports-Porn bombed the Moon and Chicken threads.