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So I just created this bumper sticker… (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 OP
France: 1789 - Maybe they got it right? onehandle Jul 2014 #1
After their revolution they choose to have an Emperor rule them. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #58
Yes. They fucked right straight up. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #72
Peaceful people can't win a violent revolution w/o the help of a tyrant. nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #73
There are clearly some plutocrats hifiguy Aug 2014 #61
That'd be too easy on them. I would sentence them to 10 years working at McDonald's for min wage.nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #75
I would buy that. The historian in me is laughing, Madame DeFarge-like. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #2
I'll wait for the follow-up bumper sticker BKH70041 Jul 2014 #3
I am not now, and never have, suggested that we ought to emulate the French style Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #6
Be Careful What You Ask For BKH70041 Jul 2014 #12
You are saying no to violent revolution, and no to nonviolent resistance? Hissyspit Jul 2014 #21
I await, along with you Hissyspit... ReRe Jul 2014 #24
Yes, flip flop they do, young Padawan. NealK Aug 2014 #77
........ daleanime Aug 2014 #45
Our own revolution was not about re-distributing wealth, either. Or John Hancock merrily Aug 2014 #78
The rich stayed rich in the new US as well. Or, if they lost their money, it was because merrily Aug 2014 #79
Lets not forget Robespierre.... paleotn Jul 2014 #31
(We've already had Bush and the Reign of Error.........FWIW) lastlib Aug 2014 #57
Whoosh, right over the heads of 90% of the American populus NightWatcher Jul 2014 #4
30% of them are lost anyway. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #7
Nah, "Don't Eat The Rich. Eat Their Children" DinahMoeHum Jul 2014 #23
Before their children eat your children. merrily Aug 2014 #80
Yep. Us poor folks are tough and stringy. hifiguy Aug 2014 #62
The French CEO Severance Package alterfurz Jul 2014 #5
That is great!!!! kairos12 Jul 2014 #18
Off with his head!!!.... paleotn Jul 2014 #28
It worked for France! Hubert Flottz Aug 2014 #55
Bravo! LOL! hifiguy Aug 2014 #63
Heads on a pike... countryjake Jul 2014 #8
... TBF Jul 2014 #9
One day the Tea Baggers might wake up as to how they are fucked over and used ... RKP5637 Jul 2014 #10
I want that. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #11
LOL kairos12 Jul 2014 #17
... BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #22
Blanche, if that doesn't deserve a DUzy hifiguy Aug 2014 #64
Lolol! BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #69
I want one!!! emsimon33 Jul 2014 #13
Me Too! Chasstev365 Jul 2014 #20
Are you selling? oldandhappy Jul 2014 #14
I want one too! Greybnk48 Jul 2014 #15
I will attach it to the back of my Tumbrel Cart. kairos12 Jul 2014 #16
DUzy! riqster Aug 2014 #33
Thread Win! nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #40
The collective answer is that if there is demand, I'll get more made & sell them. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #19
Not very complicated homegirl Aug 2014 #59
Less subtle bumper sticker jonjensen Jul 2014 #25
Or a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. hifiguy Aug 2014 #65
I like it - it's like this ad seen in recent months in an NYC subway car: LiberalElite Jul 2014 #26
That must have been lying around in my unconscious for a while-- Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #56
That's priceless, Jackpine ReRe Jul 2014 #27
I like it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Jul 2014 #29
I'll see your bumper sticker and raise you 90-percent Jul 2014 #30
What is an un-corrupt sociopath? Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #32
One that is broke? riqster Aug 2014 #34
Hahahah! loudsue Aug 2014 #47
No, that would be a DESPERATE sociopath, likely driven Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #52
Or an unsuccessfully corrupt one. :-) riqster Aug 2014 #53
that's excellent, I like it. 2banon Aug 2014 #50
Dat's a good one! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #74
TL;DR MineralMan Aug 2014 #35
SAS;LF Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #36
I'm completely stumped at that one. MineralMan Aug 2014 #38
Short Attention Span; Lost Focus Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #39
I like it. MineralMan Aug 2014 #41
I had to Google TL;DR, btw. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #42
I know. It's weird how much the language has MineralMan Aug 2014 #43
The acronyms are enough to make you crazy-- Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #49
When you line me up against the wall, please aim for the head... brooklynite Aug 2014 #37
It's not mere wealth that makes an aristocrat. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #46
"The proletariate" doesn't exist in the US brooklynite Aug 2014 #48
Yeah, yeah. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #51
That Steinbeck quote is one of the wisest things hifiguy Aug 2014 #66
That Steinbeck quote is embarrassingly accurate. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 #68
never saw it coming ! padruig Aug 2014 #44
I love it! Hubert Flottz Aug 2014 #54
Hahahahahahaha! DeSwiss Aug 2014 #60
Perfect. "Poor old Marat, the people call ...... we want out revolution, and we want it NOW!" marble falls Aug 2014 #67
It goes well with my long standing SIG Line, Jackpine ! RagAss Aug 2014 #70
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #71
Lol, K&R! NealK Aug 2014 #76
I don't get it. merrily Aug 2014 #81
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
58. After their revolution they choose to have an Emperor rule them.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:59 PM
Aug 2014

Violent revolutions don't bring freedom.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
61. There are clearly some plutocrats
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:26 PM
Aug 2014

who could stand to get a shave from the National Razor.

After a fair trial, of course.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
75. That'd be too easy on them. I would sentence them to 10 years working at McDonald's for min wage.nm
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 06:18 PM
Aug 2014

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
6. I am not now, and never have, suggested that we ought to emulate the French style
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 06:56 PM
Jul 2014

of revolution. Quite the contrary, in fact.

I think at least once a month I post a reference to Chenoweth & Stephan, Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict.

http://www.amazon.com/Why-Civil-Resistance-Works-Nonviolent-ebook/dp/B005SZEEXQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406847255&sr=8-1&keywords=chenoweth+nonviolent

BKH70041

(961 posts)
12. Be Careful What You Ask For
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 07:16 PM
Jul 2014

It might not end the way you anticipated. And with few exceptions, the rich stayed that way.

"As the nation was perishing I was born. Thirty thousand Frenchmen were vomited on to our shores, drowning the throne of liberty in waves of blood. Such was the odious sight which was the first to strike me." - Napoleon

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ghgc9SFC984C&pg=PT56&dq=As+the+nation+was+perishing+I+was+born.&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xs3aU4faEImlyASD3oCQBA&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=As%20the%20nation%20was%20perishing%20I%20was%20born.&f=false

merrily

(45,251 posts)
78. Our own revolution was not about re-distributing wealth, either. Or John Hancock
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:06 AM
Aug 2014

would not have been so hopped up about signing the D of I.

The French took their inspiration from our revolution, which had had no modern precedent. Where our rallying cry was "No tax on tea," theirs was "liberty, equality and fraternity." They managed a better national anthem, too


With no models, neither founding was perfect, though.

We tried to make George Washington, our military guy, President for Life. I don't know how different the President for Life that we desired would have been from an emperor, if GW had been a more power hungry guy. They exalted a military guy, too. GW wasn't interested in the job. Napoleon was.

Eventually, the French managed to exile Napoleon and we stopped electing slave owners as President and hoping they'd serve for life. Eventually, both nations simply elected Presidents. But, rule of our nation, and I'm guessing theirs, was always in the hands of plutocrats anyway.

I am not sure where putting down the French Revolution today gets us or why DUer seem so eager to do that. The op is about today's poor vs. today's rich, not about copying the French Revolution step by step, up to an including an Emperor.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
79. The rich stayed rich in the new US as well. Or, if they lost their money, it was because
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:32 AM
Aug 2014

they did not use or manage it well, which happened under King George and other monarchs as well.

When you say the French Revolution did not end well, how are you determining the end date? They don't seem that much worse off than we are today. And probably better off than the subjects of the sultan of Brunei or Iraq under Saddam and his sons.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
31. Lets not forget Robespierre....
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:49 PM
Jul 2014

...and the Reign of Terror. Even good things tend to get more than a little out of hand sometimes.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
80. Before their children eat your children.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:35 AM
Aug 2014

With global warming, the rich have been buying up farmland for years to make sure they control the food supply. When things get bad enough.....

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
55. It worked for France!
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:06 PM
Aug 2014

I know they could hear 'that' coming in their last few seconds, but, "close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades." The ones who got the French severance package, never screwed anyone again, afterward, so it all worked out to the betterment of mankind,
back in the day.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
8. Heads on a pike...
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jul 2014

is what I always think of whenever I see those two words together...French Aristocracy.

Nice!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
69. Lolol!
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:22 PM
Aug 2014

Cool!

There really is a "Condoms Prevent Minivans" bumper sticker. And I mean to get it.

I may get my nose punched, but...on the other hand....I survived for years having a sticker that said "Thank You For Not Breeding" , with a red circle-slashed drawing of the "finger-in-the-hole" gesture.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
19. The collective answer is that if there is demand, I'll get more made & sell them.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:14 PM
Jul 2014

I have no particular desire to make a profit, but small runs are sort of expensive.

I just got 5 magnetic ones made for myself & any interested friends. They cost about $7 apiece without postage. I wanted them to be removable so you can reduce the likelihood of your car being trashed, ticketed or towed by fascist ignorami when you have to park it in dubious places.

 

jonjensen

(168 posts)
25. Less subtle bumper sticker
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:21 PM
Jul 2014

Bumper sticker no.1 A poor person who votes republican is like a jew voting for hitler. Bumper sticker no.2 Deport republican racists not the children. Bumper sticker no.3 America a christian nation? Then who would jesus deport.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
56. That must have been lying around in my unconscious for a while--
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:15 PM
Aug 2014

long enough to forget the original source, or even that there was an original source. The theft, if such it was, was inadvertent, but I'm keeping it anyway.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
27. That's priceless, Jackpine
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:26 PM
Jul 2014
You old devil, you. Yeah, that would put the fear in 'em wouldn't it,
.........if these started showing up on bumpers all over America?

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
52. No, that would be a DESPERATE sociopath, likely driven
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:32 PM
Aug 2014

to new levels of depravity to cure their state of insolvency.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
42. I had to Google TL;DR, btw.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:20 AM
Aug 2014

OMG it just struck me how incomprehensible my subject line would have been to anyone in, say, 1990.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
43. I know. It's weird how much the language has
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:48 AM
Aug 2014

changed since the mid 1990s. We have an entirely new vocabulary to describe things we do today.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
49. The acronyms are enough to make you crazy--
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:27 PM
Aug 2014

TMI, ROFLMAO, the clear distinction in meaning between ROFL (simpatico, laughing with) and LOL (derisive, laughing at), etc.

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
37. When you line me up against the wall, please aim for the head...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

In the meantime, I'll skip the enraged masses fantasies (has never been a part of the american cultural or economic makeup) and continue to work within the political system for the changes we can achieve.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
46. It's not mere wealth that makes an aristocrat.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:57 AM
Aug 2014

It's what you do with it, and what your relationship is with the proletariate.

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
48. "The proletariate" doesn't exist in the US
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:23 PM
Aug 2014

If you think the French or Russian revolution is coming to our shores, you're dreaming.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
51. Yeah, yeah.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:30 PM
Aug 2014

"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”--Steinbeck

And btw, I agree that a French or Russian-style revolution would be a disaster. See my reference to Chenoweth & Stephan elsewhere in this thread.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
68. That Steinbeck quote is embarrassingly accurate.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:44 PM
Aug 2014

It has taken me a bit too long to realize how true it is.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
81. I don't get it.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:43 AM
Aug 2014

The OP is a humorous warning to today's rich that today's poor might not remain willing to be fucked over indefinitely; and many posts on this thread start go all Napoleon on the OP's ass.

Miss the point much? Anyway, was life under Napoleon really that much worse than life under the profligate French monarchs? What's the bottom line of that? That the French should not have revolted, just kept starving so the royal court could live in luxury. And what does any of that have to do with us today anyway?

Y'all do get that the OP has no time machine and is talking to the our rich today, not to Louis XVI, right? And it was intended to make us smile, not to run out and make Napoleon our head of state, right?

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