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(51,122 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Violent revolutions don't bring freedom.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)who could stand to get a shave from the National Razor.
After a fair trial, of course.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)BKH70041
(961 posts)And 15 Years Later
Napoleon Became Emperor
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)of revolution. Quite the contrary, in fact.
I think at least once a month I post a reference to Chenoweth & Stephan, Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict.
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Civil-Resistance-Works-Nonviolent-ebook/dp/B005SZEEXQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406847255&sr=8-1&keywords=chenoweth+nonviolent
BKH70041
(961 posts)It might not end the way you anticipated. And with few exceptions, the rich stayed that way.
"As the nation was perishing I was born. Thirty thousand Frenchmen were vomited on to our shores, drowning the throne of liberty in waves of blood. Such was the odious sight which was the first to strike me." - Napoleon
http://books.google.com/books?id=Ghgc9SFC984C&pg=PT56&dq=As+the+nation+was+perishing+I+was+born.&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xs3aU4faEImlyASD3oCQBA&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=As%20the%20nation%20was%20perishing%20I%20was%20born.&f=false
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)So do nothing?
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... (crickets)..
NealK
(1,851 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)So "you got your's"?
merrily
(45,251 posts)would not have been so hopped up about signing the D of I.
The French took their inspiration from our revolution, which had had no modern precedent. Where our rallying cry was "No tax on tea," theirs was "liberty, equality and fraternity." They managed a better national anthem, too
With no models, neither founding was perfect, though.
We tried to make George Washington, our military guy, President for Life. I don't know how different the President for Life that we desired would have been from an emperor, if GW had been a more power hungry guy. They exalted a military guy, too. GW wasn't interested in the job. Napoleon was.
Eventually, the French managed to exile Napoleon and we stopped electing slave owners as President and hoping they'd serve for life. Eventually, both nations simply elected Presidents. But, rule of our nation, and I'm guessing theirs, was always in the hands of plutocrats anyway.
I am not sure where putting down the French Revolution today gets us or why DUer seem so eager to do that. The op is about today's poor vs. today's rich, not about copying the French Revolution step by step, up to an including an Emperor.
merrily
(45,251 posts)they did not use or manage it well, which happened under King George and other monarchs as well.
When you say the French Revolution did not end well, how are you determining the end date? They don't seem that much worse off than we are today. And probably better off than the subjects of the sultan of Brunei or Iraq under Saddam and his sons.
paleotn
(17,884 posts)...and the Reign of Terror. Even good things tend to get more than a little out of hand sometimes.
lastlib
(23,166 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Go simple,
Eat The Rich
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)You may be underestimating the rest.
DinahMoeHum
(21,774 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)With global warming, the rich have been buying up farmland for years to make sure they control the food supply. When things get bad enough.....
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)alterfurz
(2,469 posts)kairos12
(12,843 posts)paleotn
(17,884 posts)....oh, wait. That's the Red Queen. Sorry.
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)I know they could hear 'that' coming in their last few seconds, but, "close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades." The ones who got the French severance package, never screwed anyone again, afterward, so it all worked out to the betterment of mankind,
back in the day.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)is what I always think of whenever I see those two words together...French Aristocracy.
Nice!
TBF
(32,015 posts)RKP5637
(67,088 posts)Well, one can hope ...
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Also, "Condoms Prevent Minivans".
kairos12
(12,843 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I don't know what does.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Cool!
There really is a "Condoms Prevent Minivans" bumper sticker. And I mean to get it.
I may get my nose punched, but...on the other hand....I survived for years having a sticker that said "Thank You For Not Breeding" , with a red circle-slashed drawing of the "finger-in-the-hole" gesture.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)I would buy. Please!
Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)Let us know if you sell them!
kairos12
(12,843 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I have no particular desire to make a profit, but small runs are sort of expensive.
I just got 5 magnetic ones made for myself & any interested friends. They cost about $7 apiece without postage. I wanted them to be removable so you can reduce the likelihood of your car being trashed, ticketed or towed by fascist ignorami when you have to park it in dubious places.
homegirl
(1,427 posts)How to print your own bumper stickers. Information at:
instructables.com
jonjensen
(168 posts)Bumper sticker no.1 A poor person who votes republican is like a jew voting for hitler. Bumper sticker no.2 Deport republican racists not the children. Bumper sticker no.3 America a christian nation? Then who would jesus deport.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)long enough to forget the original source, or even that there was an original source. The theft, if such it was, was inadvertent, but I'm keeping it anyway.
ReRe
(10,597 posts).........if these started showing up on bumpers all over America?
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)90-percent
(6,828 posts)one I shop on DU now and again.
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-90% Jimmy
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)to new levels of depravity to cure their state of insolvency.
riqster
(13,986 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Try as I might, I can't suss it out.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)(OK, OK, I just made it up for the occasion.)
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Thanks for breaking it out for me!
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)OMG it just struck me how incomprehensible my subject line would have been to anyone in, say, 1990.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)changed since the mid 1990s. We have an entirely new vocabulary to describe things we do today.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)TMI, ROFLMAO, the clear distinction in meaning between ROFL (simpatico, laughing with) and LOL (derisive, laughing at), etc.
brooklynite
(94,363 posts)In the meantime, I'll skip the enraged masses fantasies (has never been a part of the american cultural or economic makeup) and continue to work within the political system for the changes we can achieve.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)It's what you do with it, and what your relationship is with the proletariate.
brooklynite
(94,363 posts)If you think the French or Russian revolution is coming to our shores, you're dreaming.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.--Steinbeck
And btw, I agree that a French or Russian-style revolution would be a disaster. See my reference to Chenoweth & Stephan elsewhere in this thread.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)ever said about this country and its populace.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)It has taken me a bit too long to realize how true it is.
padruig
(133 posts)I like
I like !
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)Dumb bassturds!
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
marble falls
(57,013 posts)RagAss
(13,832 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)A whole bunch.
NealK
(1,851 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)The OP is a humorous warning to today's rich that today's poor might not remain willing to be fucked over indefinitely; and many posts on this thread start go all Napoleon on the OP's ass.
Miss the point much? Anyway, was life under Napoleon really that much worse than life under the profligate French monarchs? What's the bottom line of that? That the French should not have revolted, just kept starving so the royal court could live in luxury. And what does any of that have to do with us today anyway?
Y'all do get that the OP has no time machine and is talking to the our rich today, not to Louis XVI, right? And it was intended to make us smile, not to run out and make Napoleon our head of state, right?