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Fri Aug 1, 2014, 09:48 AM

Bear Saves Drowning Crow



The bear doesn't try to eat it or kill it. Then the crow stares at the bear, like "WTF, I can't believe this!"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/01/1318292/-Bear-saves-drowning-crow

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FourScore Aug 2014 OP
jberryhill Aug 2014 #1
L0oniX Aug 2014 #15
jberryhill Aug 2014 #21
malaise Aug 2014 #27
CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #2
FourScore Aug 2014 #7
hunter Aug 2014 #16
Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #20
hunter Aug 2014 #22
Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #23
Aerows Aug 2014 #40
closeupready Aug 2014 #30
CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #32
closeupready Aug 2014 #33
FourScore Aug 2014 #41
BainsBane Aug 2014 #3
pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #4
joeybee12 Aug 2014 #5
FourScore Aug 2014 #6
NV Whino Aug 2014 #8
joeybee12 Aug 2014 #13
roguevalley Aug 2014 #24
XemaSab Aug 2014 #31
TorchTheWitch Aug 2014 #34
joeybee12 Aug 2014 #38
dhill926 Aug 2014 #9
justiceischeap Aug 2014 #11
TorchTheWitch Aug 2014 #35
FourScore Aug 2014 #14
Bigmack Aug 2014 #17
Arugula Latte Aug 2014 #19
Renew Deal Aug 2014 #37
pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #46
SummerSnow Aug 2014 #10
alphafemale Aug 2014 #36
L0oniX Aug 2014 #12
roguevalley Aug 2014 #25
otohara Aug 2014 #18
panader0 Aug 2014 #28
FourScore Aug 2014 #39
roguevalley Aug 2014 #26
XemaSab Aug 2014 #42
Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #29
LisaL Aug 2014 #43
Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #45
LiberalElite Aug 2014 #44

Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 09:51 AM

1. Except for domestic cats, most animals don't kill for sport

That's a well-fed bear.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:22 AM

15. Got to ask ...why bother scooping out a bird when all that food is there?

 

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:34 PM

21. Because it was drowning


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Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:37 PM

27. Domestic cats and human beings n/t

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 09:51 AM

2. No. bear decides not to eat funny looking fish.

Last edited Fri Aug 1, 2014, 10:32 AM - Edit history (1)

People who think bears are capable of acts of kindness towards other species get killed and eaten. Ever heard of Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend?

Bears are dangerous animals that will kill you and eat you if you are stupid enough not to recognize this fact.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 10:04 AM

7. Yes. I thought about that, too. n/t

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:53 AM

16. Ravens have a somewhat cooperative relationships with bears and wolves.

The ravens act as "eyes in the sky" and lead larger predators to food they can't kill themselves, and alert them to the presence of dangerous humans.

I've no doubt the bear was rescuing the crow and not worrying about the utility of the action. In the bear's mind it simply seemed like the right thing to do.

That doesn't mean anyone should trust a bear, or even another human.

But I suspect it's only humans who ever think, "Okay, if I rescue you, what's in it for me?"




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Response to hunter (Reply #16)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:33 PM

20. That relationship extends to human predators as well.

 

When hunting deer, I keep tabs on crows who often raise a ruckus when deer pass through. If a crow flies around where I am posting up, that is a hint a deer is in the area.

When finished field dressing, the "clean up crew" disposes of Everything in the gut pile within 2 hrs. The crew is foxes, vultures, coyotes... and crows.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #20)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:04 PM

22. Just as they will follow and alert you to the presence of deer...

... they will avoid humans with guns who are out randomly shooting, and most especially individual humans known to shoot at them.

You see this with scrub jays and mocking birds. They'll leave harmless lazy cats alone, and harass cats known to be threats. They'll ignore most people, but remember people who have threatened them in some way.

On a campus of 51,000-plus students, paths are filled with students walking back and forth from class all day every weekday — so it’s no stretch to say that thousands of different people come within a few feet of mockingbird nests during the breeding season.

And yet, the mockingbirds in the study were clearly able to recognize and remember a single individual, based on just two brief negative encounters at their nest. Levey said that sharply contrasts with laboratory studies, in which pigeons recognized people only after extensive training. “Sixty seconds of exposure was all it took for mockingbirds to learn to identify different individuals and pick them out of all other students on campus,” Levey said.

For most wild animals, urban development brings less habitat and more predators. Many species flee or die off, but a few persist, and some thrive. It seems obvious that these species do better around people, but why?

Few people bother mockingbird nests, so that is hardly an answer. Rather, Levey said, the birds’ ability to recognize people suggests perceptual powers that give them an edge in dealing with the complexities of urban environments — such as being able to judge which cats may be aware of nests and which are simply passing blithely nearby.

http://news.ufl.edu/archive/2009/05/research-mockingbirds-no-bird-brains-can-recognize-a-face-in-a-crowd.html

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Response to hunter (Reply #22)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:29 PM

23. I read and saw videos about this. Fascinating.

 

45 yrs ago I was walking across that same campus and saw a large crowd following a campus cop. When I got closer I saw: An alligator decided to walk from one pond to another, and was proceeding to do so. They don't seem to care if its sunny or crowded. I think he/she was a biology major.

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Response to hunter (Reply #22)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 07:23 PM

40. I have a mockingbird on my porch right now

 

that pitches an absolute fit, divebombs the cat, and screeches at me for going out on the porch. She has a nest in a tree nearby. My cat is pretty lazy these days, but in the past, she wouldn't hesitate to snatch it out of the air. Now she just tolerates it. LOL.

They are highly intelligent birds.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:46 PM

30. Treadwell was so mentally ill.

 

I saw that documentary on him, "Grizzly Man", and just kept thinking, "wow, this guy was seriously looney."

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Response to closeupready (Reply #30)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:55 PM

32. I never could watch it but I watched the doc about the recording of the music

Which came close enough for me. Richard Thompson is an incredible improviser.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #32)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:21 PM

33. While an excellent film, it disturbed me.

 

He seemed like just another ex-surf'dewd' goofball wandering about - nothing really wrong with that, as I suppose many of us guys go through a phase like that on our way to manhood, but he didn't just flirt with disaster as a result - in his descent to mental illness, he lost his grip on reality itself. Almost as if he thought chanting "Wonder Twin powers, Activate!" could turn him into a grizzly bear. And I'm not exaggerating, based upon the documentary.

Peace.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #33)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 07:23 PM

41. It was very disturbing. I felt bad for the woman stuck there with him and no way home.

Then she very brutally lost her life, AFTER watching Treadwell get killed. Horrible.

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 09:53 AM

3. He's got a smorgasbord of carrots and apples there

That seems to suit him fine.

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 09:56 AM

4. In bear language, that's what they call 'takeout'

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 09:57 AM

5. I wish the video were longer...the crow doesn't fly away...

 

Probably injured...hopefully he/she was attended to.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 10:03 AM

6. Or exhausted. n/t

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 10:48 AM

8. That appears to be a fairly young crow

Probably not too strong to start with. And his pals didn't sound too happy about the situation.

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Response to NV Whino (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:08 AM

13. I kept watching thinking, that's not a crow...crows are bigger...

 

He finally looked like a crow when upright...you're right, he's young...hopefully he's safe and learned his lesson!

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #13)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:34 PM

24. it has a beak that is slightly hooked That is a raven. RAVEN=Godliness. I have seen

them rip the wipers off of cars while screaming their heads off. We have them here. should be our state bird but isn't. They are sacred. THey brought fire to man.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:49 PM

31. I think it's a young hooded crow

They have hooked beaks.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:38 PM

34. it's some type of crow

Though ravens are also in the crow family they are very much larger in size:

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-the-difference-between-a-raven-and-a-crow.htm
The most noticeable difference between a crow and a raven is size; in most cases, the largest black birds in this genus are known as ravens. Common Ravens are noticeably larger than American Crows, for example. Ravens average 25 inches tall (64 cm) with a 4 foot (122 cm) wing span, about the size of a hawk, while crows are around 18 inches (46 cm) tall and their wings span 3 feet (91 cm), similar to a dove.

A raven's beak is also noticeably larger, and they're completely black whereas the common crow usually has other colored feathers.

Raven's can be nasty suckers, and they're bloody huge. My dog thinks they're big black flying chickens. Crows? Meh. Not big enough to warrant a snack.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:29 PM

38. Northern Exposure did a Christmas episode about the raven...

 

One of the better ones of that series.

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:02 AM

9. it being early and all...

I read it as "saves a drowning cow." Now THAT would have been something...

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:06 AM

11. That's how I read it at first too

However, I'd say the bear didn't eat the funny looking fish because the bear had plenty to eat. He's not worried about where his next meal is coming from.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:39 PM

35. looked to me when he had the bird in his mouth it took a peck at him

Bear no likey biting funny looking fish.

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:14 AM

14. HA! Me too! n/t

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:58 AM

17. Oh THANK YOU for posting this.....

 

Did the SAME thing myself! But when I looked at the video, I thought.....that's WAY too little to be a cow....and then I had some more coffee....and saw it was a crow! Ms Bigmack

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:18 PM

19. I did too!

 

Need more java ...

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:00 PM

37. Me too

Weird

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 2, 2014, 03:14 PM

46. It actually makes more sense that way

I can totally see a bear storing a side of beef for after the winter.

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:04 AM

10. So when the crow returns to his fellow crow friends

and tell them what happened , they'll call him a liar.

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:55 PM

36. Go home Joe. You're drunk!

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:07 AM

12. Big win for the Animal Nations.

 

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:35 PM

25. Agreed :D

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:14 PM

18. That's Because Crows Are Cool

 

Crows as Clever as Great Apes, Study Says
James Owen in London
for National Geographic News
December 9, 2004

Anyone who has watched crows, jays, ravens and other members of the corvid family will know they're anything but "birdbrained."

For instance, jays will sit on ant nests, allowing the angry insects to douse them with formic acid, a natural pesticide which helps rid the birds of parasites. Urban-living carrion crows have learned to use road traffic for cracking tough nuts. They do this at traffic light crossings, waiting patiently with human pedestrians for a red light before retrieving their prize.

Yet corvids may be even cleverer than we think. A new study suggests their cognitive abilities are a match for primates such as chimpanzees and gorillas. Furthermore, crows may provide clues to understanding human intelligence.

Published tomorrow in the journal Science, the study is co-authored by Nathan Emery and Nicola Clayton, from the departments of animal behavior and experimental psychology at Cambridge University, England.

They say that, while having very different brain structures, both crows and primates use a combination of mental tools, including imagination and the anticipation of possible future events, to solve similar problems. They base their argument on existing studies.

Emery and Clayton write, "These studies have found that some corvids are not only superior in intelligence to birds of other avian species (perhaps with the exception of some parrots), but also rival many nonhuman primates." http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1209_041209_crows_apes.html

I saved one last year and he and his buds came back to thank me when an owl was eye-balling my kitty - they will squawk at their nemesis until it flees. It was something

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Response to otohara (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:41 PM

28. I feed birds. The pyroloxia are especially friendly.

If I don't have seed out, they will follow me and complain loudly until I behave. They will even eat out of the seed cup if I hold it near.
Cool birds. Outside my living room window, the birds, hummers, rabbits, Mexican ground squirrels, tarantulas, deer and more all eat and drink together without fearing each other. The biggest squabbles are between male quails.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #28)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 07:17 PM

39. Tarantulas?!! n/t

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:36 PM

26. I think that is a young raven. They are bigger, have a more terrifying beak and are smart with a

capital art.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #26)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 07:32 PM

42. Ravens don't have any gray on them

It's a Hooded Crow.

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:44 PM

29. poor crow. the bear saved it kinda roughly

 

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #29)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 07:35 PM

43. I think he thought it was a fish and wanted to eat it.

He wasn't trying to save it.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #43)

Sat Aug 2, 2014, 03:05 PM

45. agreed

 

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 07:37 PM

44. When I lived on he Upper East Side of Manhattan -

one afternoon there was a bunch of crows making a racket in the backyard (I lived in an apt.). I looked out and saw all the crows in a tree and then, descending the fire escape of the opposite apartment building, a cat with a bird in its mouth. It was surreal

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