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Solomon

(12,310 posts)
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 07:42 PM Aug 2014

Okay I Get It. They Don't Give a Damn About Facts Because They Have The Power To Create Reality

I have been listening to station after station reporting whatever the fuck they want to report. They repeat lies over and over through the airwaves, the newspapers and magazines. I keep forgetting and have to keep learning the same damn lesson over and over again. They ignore whatever the fuck they choose. There's a video of Wilson walking around the body after the shooting. He shows no signs of being in any physical pain. There's no blood and he doesn't even rub his face. Yet they keep saying his eye socket was broken. They say more than a dozen witnesses have come forward in his behalf when you have to wonder, who the fuck are these witnesses? There was no white people there! Where were they, lurking in the bushes? All of that shit has been debunked but they go right on, hour after hour, station after station, just now I heard a host say we don't know who shot the gun!

Someone here jokingly said in post that before it's over it will be that Brown got a hold of the gun and shot himself 6 times. Now I hear a host say we don't know who shot the gun!

There was a time in our history when no black person could testify against a white person in a court of law. Nothing's changed. I'm listening to a radio host right now who keeps saying "what evidence?, there's no evidence". And I'm thinking to myself, what, is the testimony of black witnesses not evidence? Apparently not.

They create reality. They have no shame. They do it because they can.

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Okay I Get It. They Don't Give a Damn About Facts Because They Have The Power To Create Reality (Original Post) Solomon Aug 2014 OP
It's true LisaLynne Aug 2014 #1
Media trials are always a circus, facts are crucial, when you just make them up it is entertainment, Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #2
Yep. Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #3
just like trayvon martin noiretextatique Aug 2014 #4
They do it because people who sell things to people like you know you will listen. jtuck004 Aug 2014 #5
yes, it is mass hypnotism KurtNYC Aug 2014 #6
They create reality to satisfy their need to not care DesertFaux Aug 2014 #7
No. Wrong. They just hate black people. RagAss Aug 2014 #12
^ Some good observations. nt GoneFishin Aug 2014 #21
CNN - Source: Darren Wilson did not have a fractured eye socket cantbeserious Aug 2014 #8
Yep, that's about the size of it. cheapdate Aug 2014 #9
Like the story I heard when I was a kid rickyhall Aug 2014 #10
GHWBush had 2 global fascist cronies develop the RW propaganda media in 80s and 90s. blm Aug 2014 #11
Mind control. its embarrassing that it works Solomon Aug 2014 #13
They chose there target audience well. blm Aug 2014 #22
Well sure,...in their bubble.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #14
Number six is a dirty lie! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #15
War is Peace. Torturers are patriots. 2+2=5. woo me with science Aug 2014 #16
The curse of all who inhabit the reality-based community: VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #17
Remeber people believeing that there was a secret part of the Rodney King video that brewens Aug 2014 #18
Ding ding we have a winner malaise Aug 2014 #19
The power to create reality. All this media promotion of outright lies reminds me of pnwmom Aug 2014 #20

LisaLynne

(14,554 posts)
1. It's true
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 07:44 PM
Aug 2014

Depressing, but true. Even with all the recordings and tapes and things that we have now that we wouldn't have had pre-cell phone days, they are still able to just repeat lies again and again until people start to believe them.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. Media trials are always a circus, facts are crucial, when you just make them up it is entertainment,
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 07:58 PM
Aug 2014

not a trial.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
3. Yep.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 08:35 PM
Aug 2014

It's amazing how the eyewitness accounts of blacks are just dismissed outright by the media.

The media has no respect for blacks. It reminds me of Presidential elections when "white working-class" people are the only voters that the media wants to discuss. All other groups are just dismissed.

Media: Can Obama appeal to white working-class voters? Blah blah blah.......

Of course, in the media's eyes, blacks cannot be working-class.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
4. just like trayvon martin
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 08:44 PM
Aug 2014

including ridiculing witnesses, and putting the victim on trial...before there is a trial. all too sickeningly familiar in amerikkka.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
5. They do it because people who sell things to people like you know you will listen.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 08:48 PM
Aug 2014

Not you personally, but the audience.

Someone to pay for it, who thinks there is someone to influence, is the first part, but it only does anything when someone turns it on. Anyway, the SC has already ruled that news is entertainment, so they have a right to say whatever they want.

You, on the other hand, can always turn it off and return to the world of reality where some of us hang out any time, where we, as a country, could perhaps figure out an alternative way that would engage and teach people, something that seems glaringly absent after having lived through the 60s and 70s..

And then real revolution could replace ignorance

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
6. yes, it is mass hypnotism
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 08:57 PM
Aug 2014

but also studies have shown that people seek out "news" that they agree with, information that backs up what they already think. And they ignore information that challenges their conceptions.

Hypnotism only works if the subject wants it to, for example to quit smoking.





 

DesertFaux

(15 posts)
7. They create reality to satisfy their need to not care
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 08:59 PM
Aug 2014

because if you care you may have to do something about this. If you care you might have to agree a great wrong has been committed. The awful and little know fact is, certain people are missing the "investment" gene, an inner drive to give our time or energy or resources to help another human. It's not there, and the evidence is all around as you state. This function just never developed in some people! "Conservatives" are plagued by missing ability—empathy, remorse, guilt—no fear of lieing about or distorting the truth, all to willing to believe a lie rather than do something with the truth. It's more important to manipulate the viewers and listeners with these guys—what a great resource the public airwaves are!

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
10. Like the story I heard when I was a kid
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 09:35 PM
Aug 2014

About a black guy who drowned in the Trinity River (but it could be any river). The punch line was, "Leave it a n----- to steal too much chain to swim with."

blm

(113,015 posts)
11. GHWBush had 2 global fascist cronies develop the RW propaganda media in 80s and 90s.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 10:29 PM
Aug 2014

Rev Moon and Rupert Murdoch were longtime intel cronies of Poppy Bush. Moon and Poppy were aligned as early as the mid60s. TeaParty "patriots" haven't a clue that they are being been duped by the propaganda media developed for decades by an anti-American, pro-NWO fascism, Korean cult leader.

blm

(113,015 posts)
22. They chose there target audience well.
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 07:30 AM
Aug 2014

The RWers have been conditioned to betray this nation.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. Well sure,...in their bubble....
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 11:38 PM
Aug 2014

1: Bush freed 20 million people but Liberals hate him because he's from Texas.

2: Obama was born in Kenya. That's PROVEN FACT.

3: Commies are still a threat. (Ignore that China is Commie as you buy their stuff)

4: WMDs were found in Iraq.

5: Reagan won the Cold War with his magic cowboy hat and mighty mouth.

6: Demoncrats use abortion to provide blood sacrifices to Satan.

7: America is a Republic so only Republicans should rule.

8: Jesus would kick your ass!!!!

9: EVERYONE considers Ollie North to be an American Hero.

10: Talking about gay people makes you gay.

(To name a few)

 

VanGoghRocks

(621 posts)
17. The curse of all who inhabit the reality-based community:
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:02 PM
Aug 2014
The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."


"The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, "Faith, Certainty and the Presidency of George W. Bush," quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community

brewens

(13,546 posts)
18. Remeber people believeing that there was a secret part of the Rodney King video that
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:15 PM
Aug 2014

they weren't being allowed to see? I'm certain they still believe that too.

The guy that shot it says he started filming after King was on the ground. Even if he got out and charged the cops, there was no video of that. Even if he did that and there was video, there was no excuse for the prolonged beating. They repeated that missing video thing over and over, every chance they got.

That was one of the great Crossfires. I think it was Kinsley and Sununu on that day. The way I remember it, Sununu started out still pushing the video conspiracy but Kinsley had him surrounded. I have no clue who else was on with them, usually there was also a guest on both the left and right.

They had whatever documentation from the court that the copy they had was a complete copy of the original. That and a statement from the guy that shot it explaining exactly what he did and why he did it. Sununu ended up having to concede and eat shit!

I kind of doubt Sununu really believed the missing footage myth. He was willing to go out there and lie and give it his best shot to win the debate, keeping the myth alive for right-wing viewers.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
20. The power to create reality. All this media promotion of outright lies reminds me of
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:42 PM
Aug 2014

what Amanda Knox has been going throughfor the last 7 years. (Italy is still prosecuting her for murder -- she's still in appeals there.)

It seems to happen whenever there is strong media interest in a case. There is almost no interest in reporting facts any more -- just creating excitement and controversy.

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