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Tue Sep 2, 2014, 07:13 PM

About Robin Williams....


I haven't talked much about what we all lost since his passing. Very hard to do until I got some time to grieve. I don't know how his friends that got a camera stuck in their face that night did it.

We bought "The Bird Cage" on Blu-ray a couple weeks before he decided to exit stage left. I know it was stage left because his politics leaned way left. We watched it about a week before the kind of day you always remember where you were when you got "the news". I am so glad we did. Anything of his we watch now will feel a little different than before.

Marta and I got the shock headline as I was reading the DU. Kudos to LBN. There was a quick reply it was another net death hoax. Whew. Then coverage of his passing became convincing. It was another 10 minutes before it started to get TV coverage. We went with MSNBC.

Very few stars touch us in the way the characters Mork, Mrs Doubtfire, Genie, etc., all did. Marta and I took the kids to see "POPEYE" more than once. Like many fans, for us it would become a multi-decades long quest see his latest film, guest appearance, or E.T. special.

He wasn't just funny. He was fun. He often pushed the limits and expanded one to perhaps a new point of view. Seeing someone we identify with so closely play a gay character in "Bird Cage" certainly opened doors in minds that had always before been closed to LGBT individuals.

Deep down I think my favorite role was one that is little known and the critics hated. But what do they know. I took my mom to see "Jakob the Liar" in first run. Concentration camps are a dark subject. Showing the audience the condemned were real people can be tricky. His statement on waterboarding is undeniable. Again he was giving us his view without preaching from a pulpit. It was more like one friend to another offering us his simple point of view. I've watched Jacob 3-4 times since he passed away.

More on Jakob and waterboarding below.

We have learned so much about his off screen generosity in the last few weeks. Causes that concerned people like being homeless and or hungry. Making sure the crew behind the camera around him were treated well. An all around good egg. Didn't Mork land here in an egg?

Most agree he left us way too soon. Be thankful he left so much behind to remember him. Drama is easy, comedy is hard. So is getting over the fact he didn't reach out to someone close to him for help before his final moments. I hope he found what he was looking for.

OS


The waterboarding scene:


The trailer:


Jakob the Liar review: http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/jakob-the-liar-1999




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Omaha Steve Sep 2014 OP
Jasana Sep 2014 #1
Awknid Sep 2014 #2
calimary Sep 2014 #20
Laffy Kat Sep 2014 #3
blueknight Sep 2014 #4
Half-Century Man Sep 2014 #5
Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #6
ReRe Sep 2014 #13
trueblue2007 Sep 2014 #22
Omaha Steve Sep 2014 #27
BobbyBoring Sep 2014 #7
LittleGirl Sep 2014 #8
VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #10
LittleGirl Sep 2014 #11
The Wizard Sep 2014 #9
dflprincess Sep 2014 #12
SheilaT Sep 2014 #14
SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2014 #15
SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2014 #16
glinda Sep 2014 #29
MrMickeysMom Sep 2014 #17
Archae Sep 2014 #18
Omaha Steve Sep 2014 #30
Archae Sep 2014 #34
octoberlib Sep 2014 #19
a kennedy Sep 2014 #23
calimary Sep 2014 #37
yodermon Sep 2014 #21
Triana Sep 2014 #24
J_J_ Sep 2014 #25
HERVEPA Sep 2014 #26
Enthusiast Sep 2014 #32
cwydro Sep 2014 #28
Enthusiast Sep 2014 #31
Omaha Steve Sep 2014 #33
SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2014 #35
Omaha Steve Sep 2014 #38
SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2014 #40
Boomerproud Sep 2014 #36
MH1 Sep 2014 #41
Terra Alta Sep 2014 #39
marym625 Sep 2014 #42

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 07:24 PM

1. I've never seen Jakob the Liar before...

but that trailer looks really interesting. I'm going to see if I can find it somewhere. Thank you for taking the time to post the trailer.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 07:32 PM

2. We watched Dead Poets Society Sat. thinking it would be easy.

But the lines he uses such as Carpe Diem, etc. were so deep and there was so much emotion, I found it hard to watch knowing he decided to end it all. I was so very moved by his choices in film. One of my favorites was "What dreams may come". But I know I cannot watch it yet. I wouldn't be able to see through the tears!

I haven't seen Jacob. I might need to wait a while before I try to see it. Thankyou for posting this.

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Response to Awknid (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 10:59 PM

20. Ahh... "What Dreams May Come."

One of my husband's favorite movies. I don't think I have the strength or the courage ever to see it a second time. Awesome and fearsome - magnificent and terrifying at the same time. Too many disquieting and seriously unsettling themes it makes you face. Especially knowing how his own movie ended.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:39 PM

3. I always enjoyed his dramatic roles more than his comedy.

His comedy was so manic it made me tired after a few minutes. LOVED "Bird Cage" and "Popeye", though. His versatility was amazing. There will never be anyone else like him. It's all gone now. It will hurt for a long time.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:42 PM

4. just watched

" good will hunting" again this weekend. we lost a national treasure, and by all accounts, a very decent,kind,giving man

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:48 PM

5. Schindler's list left me speechless for 3 hours.

Jakob the Liar took my words for 2.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:49 PM

6. wasnt he ina movie called toys?

 

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:30 PM

13. Yes, dear. n/t

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 01:19 AM

22. AW TOYS !!! Love it. Anti-war, Pro LOVE movie.

I just love it.
And for laffing every second, I watch RV. (another movie the critics don't like)

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 12:05 PM

27. Here is his entire career at the IMDB


The Internet Movie Data Base is free to all. Enjoy.

Here is Robin's page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000245/

Overview (4)
Date of Birth 21 July 1951, Chicago, Illinois, USA
Date of Death 11 August 2014, Tiburon, California, USA (suicide)
Birth Name Robin McLaurin Williams
Height 5' 7" (1.7 m)

Mini Bio (1)
Robin McLaurin Williams was born on July 21, 1951 in Chicago, Illinois, a great-great-grandson of Mississippi Governor and Senator Anselm J. McLaurin. His mother, Laurie McLaurin (Janin), was a former model from Mississippi, and his father, Robert Fitzgerald Williams, was a Ford Motor Company executive from Indiana. Williams had English, German, French, Welsh, Irish, and Scottish ancestry.

Robin briefly studied political science, before enrolling at Juilliard School to study theatre. After he left Juilliard, he performed in nightclubs where he was discovered for the role of Mork on an episode of Happy Days (1974) and the subsequent spin-off Mork & Mindy (1978). Williams' wild comic talent involved a great deal of improvisation, following in the footsteps of his idol Jonathan Winters. Williams has also proven to be an effective dramatic actor and received an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor in Good Will Hunting (1997).

On August 11, 2014, Robin Williams was found dead at his home in Tiburon, California USA, the victim of an apparent suicide, according to the Marin County Sheriff's Department. A 911 call was received at 11:55 AM PDT, firefighters and paramedics arrived at his home at 12:00 PM PDT, and he was pronounced dead at 12:02 PM PDT.
- IMDb Mini Biography By: Ray Hamel

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNTYzMjc2Mjg4MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODc1OTQwNw@@._V1_SX214_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg




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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:52 PM

7. I can't watch all the films on cable now.

There have been tons of them on so I guess I haven't reached the "Enough grieving" point yet. Being 60, I've had far too many friends check themselves out. Some I sort of understood b/c their lives we so fucked.
The others were like Robin. On the surface, they had everything to live for. Sometimes, there are things buried so deep under the surface that just drags one so low they can't see living another minute.
So sad

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:57 PM

8. The only VCR tape I have is "The Bird Cage"

and all the rest are DVDs of
Dead Poets Society (my husband got it for me after watching me cry for two days. I had never seen it). Oh Captain, My Captain.
The World According to Garp - gawd, he was awesome in that.
Good Will Hunting - OMG, another masterpiece

and so many I have never seen of his. Jimanji and a couple I can't remember the names of.

Thanks for the thread. I was punched in the gut hearing of his death and I never met the guy. Very few celebrities I pay attention to and he was just one that I could never read about. I didn't want to know about his 'real' life because I was afraid he wouldn't live up to my expectations. I didn't want to intrude on his privacy as a human so never read the 'rags' about rumors and crap like that. To read what he did, post death, made me cry more. He was so special to me. He was so talented and so sincere in his comedy. I truly think he had a gift. Our Leonardo (di Vinci, of talent).

RIP Robin. Aug 11, 2014...

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Response to LittleGirl (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:06 PM

10. so glad you mentioned The World According to Garp...

 

literally one of my favorite movies....

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #10)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:10 PM

11. one of my all time favorites of all time eom

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:59 PM

9. Jakob the Liar

was a wonderful movie with a great message about risking the present for a better future. And about making authority question itself.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:14 PM

12. "...it would become a multi-decades long quest see his latest film, guest appearance.."

My mom didn't watch a lot of TV in her last years (her hearing wasn't so good) but I was expected to let her know when Robin Williams was going to be on Leno or Letterman or another talk show. She figured her neighbors could put up with her TV blaring once in a while she watched him.

I've certainly been upset by politician's deaths (like Wellstone) but, besides John Lennon (and maybe George Harrison - but at least he died of natural causes), I cannot remember when a celebrity's death has bothered me so much.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 10:17 PM

14. One amazing movie he made is

 

"Being Human". I feel as if I'm the only person who ever saw it. He plays five different men in different time eras, and each one loses what he loves. It's excellent.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 10:17 PM

15. We watched Jakob the Liar on HBO GO the day after he died

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Couldn't finish it though. I thought it was quality work. But I read the Wikipedia plot and saw how dire it was. As we were mourning his death opted to segue to Robin Williams Live at the Met that we found on YouTube. Wise decision for us.

One thing I've noticed as we come across various projects... He was telling us everything about his state of mind. Everything. Sunday we watched "Mork Meets Robin Williams" from 1981. I swear it was an intervention by the writers. Nothing seemed to have changed in the 30 years that followed. Always giving. And always will.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 10:29 PM

16. Have you seen this portrait - Adrià Llarch, My Captain (2014)

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 01:30 PM

29. Very nice.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 10:36 PM

17. Really good thread, Omaha Steve...

Got lots here, and will see Jakob now that I've been turned on to it here.

He gave us things from deep inside we all need, IMO.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 10:38 PM

18. Nobody mentions his animation work or "Hook."

"Hook" was uneven, but not REALLY terrible.
Besides, Dustin Hoffmann hammed it up even more than Robin Williams did.

But...

"Ferngully"
"Robots"

And of course...

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Response to Archae (Reply #18)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 03:00 PM

30. I was too subtle in the OP


Characters Mork, Mrs Doubtfire, Genie, etc.,

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #30)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 05:20 PM

34. I see it now.

Guess I was reading too fast again.

I wonder though, what will Williams be best remembered for?

The Genie? (Good choice though...)

"GOOOOOOOD MORNING, VIETNAM!!!"

Popeye?

Bicentennial Man?

I mean, John Wayne is best remembered as "The Duke," a cowboy, and Ronald Reagan having a chimp as a child.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Sep 2, 2014, 10:47 PM

19. PBS is doing a tribute on Sept. 9th

Stars and friends of Robin Williams will share memories of the late comedian in “Robin Williams Remembered — A Pioneers of Television Special.”

The one-hour special will feature Williams’ last full-length television interview, including never-before-seen footage and Williams’ stories from his early days as a stand-up comedian, his desire to be a dramatic actor and his efforts to entertain U.S. troops overseas.

It will also feature tributes and interviews with Williams’ friends Henry Winkler, Yakov Smirnoff, Louie Anderson, Paul Rodriguez, Rick Overton, Blake Clark, Pauly Shore and George Schlatter, as well as Penny Marshall, Whoopi Goldberg, Jerry Stiller, Jimmie Walker and Williams’ “Mork & Mindy” co-stars Pam Dawber and the late Jonathan Winters.

The special is set to air at 9 p.m., Sept. 9 on PBS SoCaL. Other PBS stations’ air dates can be found in local listings.

http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/robin-williams-tribute-pbs-1201296353/

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 06:32 AM

23. doesn't seem right it only being an hour......wow. Should be a lot more

Will be watching for sure. Thanks for the information.

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 06:17 PM

37. I just realized - that's 9/9, at 9.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 01:10 AM

21. My 10yo son had a sleepover this weekend.. out of the blue i cue'd up "Hook" on netflix

Neither my son nor his friend had ever heard of this movie and they LOVED it.
It doesn't usually get a mention because it's not really that deep or profound.. but he made kids laugh and I always thought that was cool.. Aladdin... Hook ... Jumanji ....Flubber(!).. probably some more I forgot as well.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:47 AM

24. What a fabulous remembrance of Robin Williams, OS.

 

He was a remarkable human being, actor and comedian. He had a very touching and special way of 'getting the message across' to an audience - either via comedy, drama or just plain being himself. Truly talented, kind, gentle, and generous.

I'm heartbroken that he's gone. And very angry at how his lovely daughter was treated by internet bullies after he was gone. How COULD they? Jeeze.

I've probably watched more of his films that many other actors - without even realizing it until he was gone. It's so sad. He was a gift to us.

He found what he was looking for: a release from his pain. That's what those who commit suicide really want. Not to stop their life, but to stop the pain. And knowing this about him is the most heartbreaking of all. Because if there was anyone who didn't deserve such pain, it was Robin Williams.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 10:24 AM

25. Does anyone remember the photo editor that died in the anthrax attack?

 

The one that published a picture of the Bush twins drunk off their asses?

After I watched "Man of the Year'" an awesome Robin Williams movie in which he runs for president and is just amazing....

The movie discusses computer election tampering which is rarely discussed by us on DU anymore much less anyone in Hollywood....

I began to really worry about him.

Comedians are the best way to get through to people, truth through humor, and he was the best.

Then I watched a youtube of him in England, making fun of Sarah Palin and the Bushies....and the horrible thought came to me 'Oh shit they are going to kill him'

He then began a tour called 'weapons of self destruction' all about the Bushes...but quickly had heart problems and needed surgery.

After he recovered, he limited his comedy on the Bushes. From Wiki:





After a six-year break, in August 2008, Williams announced a new 26-city tour titled "Weapons of Self-Destruction". He said that this was his last chance to make jokes at the expense of the Bush administration,

Williams was hospitalized in March 2009 due to heart problems. He postponed his one-man tour for surgery to replace his aortic valve.

By the time the show was staged, only a few minutes covered that subject.


Robin Williams had just finished several movies and would be about to go on the talk show circuit, Jon Stewart, Colbert where he would surely bring up the very recent past of the idiot Bushes at a time when Jeb is getting ready to run.

I saw this was going to happen, I am so sad there is nothing I can do to convince anyone so there is no point- go ahead and delete this if you must but I must speak my truth.

The corporate media that everyone instantly believed on this story is the same one that sold us the war in Iraq and is still lying about everything now.

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Response to J_J_ (Reply #25)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 10:38 AM

26. Way to try to fuck up a wonderful thread with conspiracy crap.

 

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Response to J_J_ (Reply #25)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 03:59 PM

32. I would entertain anything bad about the Bushes.

Always imagine the worst. They actually might have killed RW.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 12:15 PM

28. Kick

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 03:55 PM

31. Kicked and recommended!

Thank you, Omaha Steve.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 04:44 PM

33. This LBN post is what started this thread

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #33)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 05:26 PM

35. One more thought on Jakob the Liar

Bob Balaban's character is always trying to hang himself and Jakob figures out a way to stop that. For us it was just too much pain the day after Robin did so. And can't imagine it will ever get easier.

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #35)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:35 PM

38. That has haunted me too


So sad he left us this way.

OS

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #38)

Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:13 AM

40. after life . . .

Some of the tributes have been very uplifting.

This in Denver (where Mork & Mindy lived):

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 05:41 PM

36. No one seems to mention a favorite of mine "Moscow on the Hudson"

He played a Russian circus musician who defected at "Bloomingdales". It was heartwarming, serious, meaningful and an excellent performance by Robin. His Russian was flawless.

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #36)

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 12:11 PM

41. I loved that movie! I still remember the supermarket scene.

(where he is overwhelmed by all the choices)

I even referenced it to others, when having to choose among too many options - "I feel like Robin Williams in Moscow on the Hudson" - it's great when someone gets the reference right off.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:40 PM

39. I watched RV with some friends the night before Robin Williams committed suicide.

We had a great time, had some good laughs -- then woke up the next morning to the awful news of his death.

I hope, somehow, he knows now during his last evening on Earth, he made my friends and I have a very enjoyable night.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 12:13 PM

42. I fell in love with him the first Comic Relief

He was generous, beyond hilarious and kind. One of kind.

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