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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn a scale of 1-10 how large a threat is ISIS?
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2 (10%) |
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1 (5%) |
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3 (14%) |
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1 (5%) |
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2 (10%) |
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11 (52%) |
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Scuba
(53,475 posts)They are no threat to me, but they do seem to threaten some people.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)To folk in Iraq and Syria ...11, to others in the middles east .... 7, 8, 9,or 10, to the residents of Belize ...0
NightWatcher
(39,360 posts)You are being manipulated by another boogieman created by people who want perpetual war.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)But since other countries are getting involved in defeating ISIS, the threat is going from 10 to a little less....
PM Cameron (Britain) is a cheerleader opposing ISIS and our leaders are finally showing the passion to fight them, so it would have been a "10" a few days ago.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)severity and probability.
ISIS are a 6 on the severity scale and a 4 on probability. This is unlike sea level rise for example, which is a 9 on the severity scale and a 9.5 on probability.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Threat to US interests/personnel in the middle east and Asia, I'd give it a 9.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)sinkingfeeling
(54,571 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Chathamization
(1,638 posts)PlanetaryOrbit
(155 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)PlanetaryOrbit
(155 posts)Threat to the US? Very low.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)You might as well have asked what threat the Ferguson police department is to me, an older white woman who lives in an entirely different city and state. Well, none, obviously. Does that mean I don't think the Justice Department should not be devoting time and resources to investigating (and possibly prosecuting) them?
ISIS is a large threat to those who happen to be non-Sunni Syrians or Iraqis. Let's recall the current toll:
Then read the report Amnesty International issued Tuesday. Its title is Ethnic Cleansing on Historic Scale: The Islamic States Systematic Targeting of Minorities in Northern Iraq. The report details, with eyewitness testimony, several more ISIS atrocities in Iraq. At least 100 men and boys herded together and shot to death in Kocho. Scores of men and boys summarily executed in Qiniyeh. More than 50 men rounded up and shot dead near Jdali.
Human Rights Watch also released a report on Tuesday. It offers new evidence about the massacre in Tikrit. Information from a survivor and analysis of videos and satellite imagery has confirmed the existence of three more mass execution sites, says the report. That brings the death toll to between 560 and 770 men. The captives were shot dead while lying in trenches with their hands bound.
For a more complete tally of the carnage, check out the U.N.s latest casualty figures for Iraq. The 1,265 civilians killed in August, combined with 1,186 in July and 1,531 in June, yield a total of 6,861 so far this year, and 9,826 over the last 12 months. The report doesnt specify how much of the killing was done by ISIS, but it does say that thousands continue to be targeted and killed by [ISIS] and associated armed groups simply on account of their ethnic or religious background. These figures dont include the uncollectible data from Anbar provincewhich covers half the Syrian border and nearly one-third of Iraqor any of the nearly 200,000 people killed in the Syrian civil war.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/09/don_t_watch_isis_s_murder_of_steven_sotloff_honor_him_by_remembering_the.html
Your question should rather be: what is the best way to proceed (or not) to prevent more killings and ethnic cleansings. Who cares what threat ISIS poses to any one of us?
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,744 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)And more than half the respondents in this thread are questioning your question. The other half are taking it as the threat to themselves or to the US. So you need to think seriously about rewording it to be specific. Absent that, this is just a trash-thread candidate: flame bait, pure and simple.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,744 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)which, as you well know, invites stupid answers. So if you want to be king of shit-stirring, keep asking these kinds of questions. You are no innocent here: it was a pointedly obtuse question that does not invite rational discussion. Be proud, be very proud.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,744 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(23,069 posts)It is the ideology of murderous religious extremism that is the threat, more so than this particular collection of extremists at that place at this time. Murderous religious extremism historically has never been solely Islamic, virtually all mega religions have out breaks of it from time to time. At the moment it is most virulent at the Muslim fringe where circumstances make its advancement viable. But t can trigger extremist reactions in other religions also; be it Christian vs. Muslim in Nigeria, or Hindu vs Muslim in India, or Jewish vs Muslim in the Middle East, and it can contribute to the rise of extreme right wing Christianity in America alsp as the world wide climate for religious tolerance deteriorates.
So while I rate ISIS as a 3 or 4, I rate jhadism as a 7 and religious extremism in general as 8 or higher.
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Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)recent reports of missing planes (hitting US interests/embassies), Americans joining forces with ISIS and growing conflict in the Middle East by religious factions, I'd rate it a 7-8.
It doesn't take that many living in the US to make a point. Not to the degree of 911, but enough to scare the bejeebers out of most normal, caring individuals. Look at the targets that would be easy marks. Football games, fall festivities, large churches. It only takes one.
For one, they need to kill the promise of 72 virgins on the other side. Should have been done many years ago. Once believed, it's like a catnip trip that won't shut off. Sheesh! Ignorance abounds.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)To the US? 1. At worst they could create terrorist attacks, which create lots of panic and fear but really are no actual threat to the country overall.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Middle East and around the world.
Autumn
(47,557 posts)To oil companies, MIC contractors, it's a threat. Fuck em.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Autumn
(47,557 posts)You notice I said to the United States zero threat. There are atrocities going on in other countries also.
MineralMan
(148,692 posts)Further, a threat to whom? That's not clear at all in your poll.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Like ignoring protocol, diverting resources, and shutting down key defenses...
BainsBane
(55,715 posts)That is the question. Your poll doesn't provide options for that so I can't answer.
pampango
(24,692 posts)because they are not an immediate threat to me?
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak for me.
First they came for the women, and I did not speak out -
Because I am not a woman.
Then they came for the Shia, and I did nothing -
Because I am not a Shia.
Then they came for the journalists, and I did nothing -
Because I am not a journalist.
You know the rest.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)What do these numbers mean, again?
Initech
(104,243 posts)
Rex
(65,616 posts)They seem to be bound and determined to get us back into Iraq, so we can kill them all.
StevieM
(10,562 posts)Taitertots
(7,745 posts)If they are allowed to grow unchecked, then it could become a huge problem.
Mojo Electro
(362 posts)Because, to anybody they actually come in contact with, they most assuredly are.