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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 12:38 PM Sep 2014

Inmates Aren’t the Only Victims of the Prison-Industrial Complex

Prison-reform advocates tend to focus on the plight of those behind bars. But the enforcers of this draconian system are victims as well."

The worst part of Dave’s job as a death-row guard happened early morning on the day of an execution. After taking the inmate for his final shower and instructing him to change his clothes for his last visit with his family, Dave would bring him back to his cell. Officers would then escort him in handcuffs to a prison van, which would take him from the Polunsky Unit in the east Texas town of Livingston to the death chamber at another prison in Huntsville, forty miles away.

“They have that look—like they know what’s coming,” Dave (not his real name) says. “Man, it’s hard to look at them in the eyes.”

*But serving as a cog in a machine whose ultimate aim is to destroy human life takes a toll. After eight-and-a-half years working on death row, Dave started having nightmares. He suffered from high blood pressure. “Even the younger guys get high blood pressure working there,” he says. “There were times I’d get to the entrance [of the prison], go through screening and do an about-turn, go back into the parking lot and call in sick.” So Dave transferred from death row."

*“Prison functions in entirely the opposite way from the small, healthy family or community,” says Frank Ochberg, a psychiatrist who sat on the panel that went on to define post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) in the 1970s and who has served as an expert witness for countless inmates on death row. “It does to a human being what a zoo does to a wild animal.”

http://www.thenation.com/article/181607/inmates-arent-only-victims-prison-industrial-complex

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Inmates Aren’t the Only Victims of the Prison-Industrial Complex (Original Post) damnedifIknow Sep 2014 OP
Victims? Death row inmates are victims? Seriously? badtoworse Sep 2014 #1
Time we advanced as a society damnedifIknow Sep 2014 #2
If someone feels better about executing someone after "reviewing the case files" haele Sep 2014 #3
Being capable of committing a horrific act is irrelevant badtoworse Sep 2014 #4
 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
1. Victims? Death row inmates are victims? Seriously?
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 01:25 PM
Sep 2014

With the exception of wrongful convictions, you've committed a pretty egregious crime or you wouldn't be in the predicament you're in. It's pretty hard to see the inmates as victims. The real victims are the people they murdered, kidnapped tortured and/or raped, IOW, the ones you forgot to mention.

As for Dave, he did the right thing by transferring out. Alternatively, he might have felt better if he read the case files to review what the inmates in question had done to wind up on death row.

haele

(12,647 posts)
3. If someone feels better about executing someone after "reviewing the case files"
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 02:31 PM
Sep 2014

I'd have some serious concerns about his own humanity and question his capacity for feelings.

That's one hard, cold person that feels no humanity for someone, even a "cold hearted killer". Yes, there are fucked up people out there, either through genetics or by being abused to insensitivity themselves. And studies have found that most normal people are capable of doing horrific acts without apparently feeling the effects of doing so much harm to others if they can find some sort of social group justification for doing so. Usually, once they find out that "justification" was ginned up for some sociopath's delusional efforts to be immortal, then the shame and guilt start piling on.

I wouldn't want to fuck myself up just to be able to sleep easy at night if I had a job dealing with "people who deserve killing" - because everyone is capable of doing something to "deserve killing" - even me.


Haele

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
4. Being capable of committing a horrific act is irrelevant
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:51 PM
Sep 2014

I agree that everyone is capable, but most people have a moral compass that prevents them from doing so. I don't see capital punishment as a horrific act, but I accept than many people do. If you do, then you shouldn't be doing Dave's job.

If you believe, that capital punishment is justified in some cases (as I do), then understanding the facts of a case will allow you to make a judgment about whether the execution is justified. Believing that the execution is justified means you are comfortable that you are doing the right thing; it does not mean you have no feelings of humanity.

It's a very different situation if you believe the person is innocent or that the death penalty is not justified - then you have a very different problem.

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