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Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:36 PM

Well, is everyone afraid of the subway threat, yet?

Bomb, bomb, bomb,

bomb, bomb, Iran.




A response of mine from below

I think New Yorkers might have reason to fear

But when you want to wage war, it's good to instill some fear.

How in the heck do ordinary citizens know which threats are real threats and which aren't? I sure don't trust the powers that be in charge of our intelligence, and that's what the president has to rely on.

Stay safe.

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Reply Well, is everyone afraid of the subway threat, yet? (Original post)
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 OP
zappaman Sep 2014 #1
NightWatcher Sep 2014 #2
zappaman Sep 2014 #5
NightWatcher Sep 2014 #19
Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #62
Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #18
lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #6
zappaman Sep 2014 #15
dixiegrrrrl Sep 2014 #29
jwirr Sep 2014 #3
JaneyVee Sep 2014 #4
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #9
Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #24
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #34
Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #35
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #37
Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #38
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #39
Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #40
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #43
Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #46
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #45
Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #47
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #48
Chathamization Sep 2014 #7
Fla_Democrat Sep 2014 #8
pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #25
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #10
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #11
Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #12
arcane1 Sep 2014 #13
hrmjustin Sep 2014 #14
KG Sep 2014 #16
hobbit709 Sep 2014 #17
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #23
hobbit709 Sep 2014 #27
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #30
FrodosPet Sep 2014 #20
Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #26
Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #21
malaise Sep 2014 #22
FrodosPet Sep 2014 #31
upaloopa Sep 2014 #28
Xipe Totec Sep 2014 #32
randome Sep 2014 #33
SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #36
notadmblnd Sep 2014 #41
brooklynite Sep 2014 #42
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #44
LiberalElite Sep 2014 #49
brooklynite Sep 2014 #56
Smarmie Doofus Sep 2014 #50
Nobel_Twaddle_III Sep 2014 #51
JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #52
Politicalboi Sep 2014 #53
Chisox08 Sep 2014 #54
herding cats Sep 2014 #55
Number23 Sep 2014 #57
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #61
TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #58
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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:37 PM

1. Sorry, but what threat?

I must have missed this today.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:38 PM

2. that new terror group, the Kardashian Group (or something like that)

terra terra terra

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:40 PM

5. The Khardashian Group?

Ok, now I'm scared.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:45 PM

19. actually they're the Khorasan Group and they're just like the Kardashians

both are famous without ever having done anything


oooga boooga smoooga woooga

Boogieman du jour

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/09/25/the-strange-story-behind-the-khorasan-groups-name/

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Response to zappaman (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:16 AM

62. Yeah, her butt can cause riots.

 

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:45 PM

18. The Khardashian group. LOL nt

 

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Response to zappaman (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:40 PM

6. No more cheese in their sandwiches.






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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:42 PM

15. WTF?

No smoked gouda?
I'm outta here.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:54 PM

29. Damn...that means you have repeat the entire day

only with FEAR!!!!

or
You could Lindsay Graham to do it for you.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:39 PM

3. Afraid - we do not have one where I live. However, even if it turns out to be false I want my

government to pay attention. All threats should be taken seriously.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:39 PM

4. A subway runs a half block from under my building in NYC.

 

But since you're in Texas you have nothing to worry about.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:40 PM

9. I think New Yorkers might have reason to fear

But when you want to wage war, it's good to instill some fear.

How in the heck do ordinary citizens know which threats are real threats and which aren't? I sure don't trust the powers that be in charge of our intelligence, and that's what the president has to rely on.

Stay safe.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:48 PM

24. And there we are. At the crossroads of reality and snark

 

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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #24)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:00 PM

34. If I wanted to be snarky I would say the OP is safe as there isn't anything worth targeting in Texas

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #34)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:01 PM

35. Ok. Thanks.

 

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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #24)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:04 PM

37. With all the discussions here about the MIC wanting to wage war

and how they'll do anything to get us into a war, you think this kind of question is snark?

This is not to make light of any thing that could happen or has happened, but many here seem darn sure that the military industrial complex and other assorted corporatists will do anything to get us into war. Questioning threats is a natural result of that belief.


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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #37)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:13 PM

38. The MIC?

 

I might agree with you they are running to the bank over the last 13 years.

BUT,
It wasn't the MIC that beheaded James Foley
It's not becuause of the MIC why EVERY New Yorker looked up for 5 years after a plane flew over
And I'm sorry to say it wasn't the MIC at the podium of the UN yesterday.


And while your criticism is valid, don't be surprised if your words touch a raw nerve that every New Yorker cotinues to live with every time we swipe our metro card.

Yes, are we getting on the train. Yes, are we doing it while reading our phones. Yes, do we just wish it was Friday. But it's there.

That's all.

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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #38)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:17 PM

39. And I do apologize for hitting a raw nerve.

Sincerely.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #39)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:19 PM

40. No worries

 

Thanks for hearing me.

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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #40)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:21 PM

43. Back at ya!

Couldn't help but get a bit of "Texan" in there.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #43)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:27 PM

46. In Florida

 

We say it "bacatcha."

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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #38)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:25 PM

45. I won't pile on...

I will say I ride the Los Angles Metro (subway) every day. In fact I am leaving my home in Woodland Hills (suburban Los Angeles) to meet my girlfriend in downtown Los Angles in a half hour or so. The trip takes approximately one and one half hours. Approximately one hour is spent on a dedicated bus line and the the other half hour is spent on the subway.

There are a few exceptions but most of those poo pooing the threat don't rely on the subway to meet their transportation needs.

BTW, I used to ride the NY subway all the time as a kid. It was scary in the 70s.




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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #45)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:34 PM

47. I hear you

 

And no offense (pile on) taken if that was directed at me.


Their is a way to get the point across. And truth be told, this threat probably is bullshit, which frankly does more to trust in the President than my fear of boarding a train.

However, after Madrid and London and I think Tokyo if memory serves, not to mention 9/11, everyone one the millions of New Yorkers that take the train feel the, albeit, slight presence.


Yeah, can't imagine what the 70's were like, but my wife and inlaws tell me about the 80's.


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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #47)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:40 PM

48. The threat is BS and is already being dismissed.

But subways seem like a juicy target and they have been hit before.


The L A Sheriff dept has a huge presence on the subway. And those deputies are jacked.


However the transit police seems to be more concerned that your tap card is valid.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:40 PM

7. No. And I take the subway everyday. N/T

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:40 PM

8. I never liked their food...

I'm more of a pizza guy, myself.




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Response to Fla_Democrat (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:49 PM

25. They must be coming out with a new gutbomb...literally

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:40 PM

10. No, It doesn't seem likely... They apparently lack the capability.

That being said I ride the L A Metro at least five times a week. If you don't think that's a target rich environment there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:41 PM

11. Afraid? No.

But it is reasonable to pay attention. We know what happened when Bush blew off the August 2001 intelligence briefing. No need to panic but it would be stupid to ignore it.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:41 PM

12. Showing clips of folks using the subway as the media dialled up the fear juice...terrorists thank

the media for doing their dirty work for them.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:41 PM

13. What subway threat? I hadn't heard of this.

 

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:42 PM

14. To some extent yes.

 

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I take these things in seriously but i still rode the subway today.

I had to show my bag to the police today.


NYers are used to it but it is scary.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:43 PM

16. wonder when they'll trot out the frogmen again...

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:44 PM

17. Not particularly.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #17)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:48 PM

23. ISIS lacks the capbility

I do have a question.

When's the last time you rode the subway?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #23)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:51 PM

27. Almost 41 years ago.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #27)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:56 PM

30. Not much for you to be concerned about.

Some folks have to ride the subway every day.

ISIS lacks the capability but to poo poo the idea of terrorists targeting the subway strikes me as myopic at best and callous at worst.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:46 PM

20. I don't ride subways, so I am ok

But I can see where people in London and Madrid might be taking it seriously.







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Response to FrodosPet (Reply #20)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:49 PM

26. Thank you

 

Signed,

A New Yorker.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:47 PM

21. Nah....Although I do ride the subways when I go to New York City

 

I go there quite often, but I won't be scared to ride the subways.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:47 PM

22. No and I still don't know the name of the new Irawi PM though

I think he thought he'd get some attention for this one. Maybe he's learning from the neo-cons that crying wolf works.

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Response to malaise (Reply #22)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:59 PM

31. January 8, 1977. March 20, 1995. March 11, 2004. July 7, 2005.

And quite a few others. What do those dates have in common?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_involving_railway_systems

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:53 PM

28. We don't have any subways here.

What would be gained by bombing subways. Everyone would then convert to Islam?

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:59 PM

32. Subway's BMT sandwich is a threat to health. nt

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:59 PM

33. So you don't like it when the Admin keeps information from you.

 

And you don't like it when they give you information. Because everything they say must be a lie, right?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:04 PM

36. You mean the one that has already been debunked?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/iraqi-report-isis-subway-threat-knocked-down-n211496

"A wide range of U.S. intelligence sources told NBC News that there is no evidence of any current threat against the subways, after Iraq’s prime minister told reporters that ISIS is plotting an imminent attack.

In a meeting with journalists at the United Nations, Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said he had just learned of the plot by foreign fighters of the Islamic State group in Iraq to attack subway systems in the U.S. and Paris. He said it had not been thwarted and that the United States had been alerted....

snip..

Virtually every major U.S. law enforcement agency and intelligence agency said they had no evidence of any such plot. The report is viewed as "total bunk," according to a senior intelligence official.


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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:19 PM

41. stocking up on tuna, plastic and duct tape as I type

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:19 PM

42. UNREC

This harping on a warning by the Iraqi Prime Minister as an excuse to scare us into miltary action is stupid, given that the US has ALREADY SAID THEY HAVE NO SUCH INTELLIGENCE.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #42)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:23 PM

44. Kind of my point.

They don't need intelligence for this to run for hours on cable news, but I'll bet support for the war just went up ten points.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #44)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:55 PM

49. Not from me - and I'm in NYC

The new normal is: There's always National Guard troops in Penn Station and Grand Central. Occasionally there's heavily armed robo-cops in front of the Chrysler Building. On every subway ride they run a recorded announcement: "if you see something say something."

And to accompany the traditional late September traffic jams due to the U.N. opening, the NYPD anti-terrorism elves put big concrete blocks in front of the Hyatt Grand Central. Kinda impedes the heavy pedestrian traffic but it is what it is.

My point is, NYC is on every terrorist's short list regardless of what this guy says. Nevertheless, I feel I'm much more likely to be hit by a reckless cyclist than blown up by a terrorist.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #44)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:07 PM

56. But your insinuation is that this is desired by the US Government...

...based on absolutely no evidence of behavior by the Obama Administration.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:58 PM

50. Cuomo's going to ride this for whatever it's worth. Quite literally.

 

Bloomberg ginned-up a subway bomb scare two weeks before the 2005 election against Fernando Ferrer and went from a +5 lead to a twenty point win.

Seriously... you can't get any lower than New York politicians.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:24 PM

51. Sorry but I am more afraid of the Police, Deputy’s and State Patrol.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:36 PM

52. I'm wondering

Why that threat when it was expressed - was the first Fed Gov heard of it. If what I'm hearing is correct - then the Iraq Leadership did not even share that with President Obama first.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:36 PM

53. Are the subways really going to play

 

That Lindsay Graham video on board. "Oh the humanity" Terra! Terra! Terra!

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:44 PM

54. Oh Noes

I was going to take the Red Line to the Sox game this weekend. Now I gave to be afraid very afraid.

ISIS is the new boogie man after Obama had the last one killed. Once ISIS is taken out there will be a new boogie man to replace them.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:59 PM

55. With vast respect for all the people who ride the subway daily, I think it's hype.

The Iraqi PM claims something is verifiable which they've been told by a prisoner and even our own intelligence people say they've not heard peep about? It sounds very much to me like he's trying to escalate our involvement by using fear on US citizens.

This may be an unpopular opinion, but so be it. It's what I thought when I first read the story today and I'm going with my gut. Think about it, when is the last time the US has real intelligence on a terror plot and some warmonger didn't get it leaked to them and come out screaming how the Democrats are soft on terror and we were all going to die because of them? Heck, they'd even do that if it were a bogus rumor going around. I just find this to be too suspect to believe it's genuine.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:09 PM

57. 3 weeks in and you've got the lingo/mindset for this forum NAILED

Congrats... I guess.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #57)

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:32 AM

61. Self deleted below because I meant to respond to you, personally


I wanted to say that I joined over one of the last Texas bashing threads to post a photo of Ann Richards - wearing a hat, of course. I've lurked for years and years, but have refrained from joining because I know this is addicting.

Anyway, I joined, but couldn't figure out how to post a photo, though.

Hence, my name.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:24 AM

59. What's a subway?

 

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:26 AM

60. New York Subway rider here

Not afraid.

Then again I don't have a TV.

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