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strawberries

(498 posts)
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:10 AM Sep 2014

I feel sorry for the family

of the Oklahoma beheading suspect. His poor mother apologizing for her son's actions. Just breaks my heart.

I have one question, is it that easy to cut someones head off? It had to have taken at least a moment or two. Why didn't the other workers help her and stop him?

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Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
1. They didn't want to get stabbed or slashed
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:15 AM
Sep 2014

As for the beheading, I suppose it would depend much on how strong the person is, the size of the knife and how sharp it was.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
4. don't want to be gruesome here but I have wondered the same
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:25 AM
Sep 2014

I had read that beheadings in the gory old days often took several hacks and the head didn't come off very clean. Let me say I read this in passing I think as part of an article on the guillotine. One of the reasons the guillotine was fashioned was to prevent these problem and cut the head off in one nice clean motion.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
5. I actually felt more sorry for the family before I saw this video
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:33 AM
Sep 2014

What possible rationale can there be for beheading someone and stabbing another multiple times with the same intent?

They kept repeating that there's two sides to the story??!! That's "not Alton"??!!



Fuck them.

 

strawberries

(498 posts)
7. I can't watch those videos
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:38 AM
Sep 2014

I don't think there is any rationale. Not sure if it is some form of brain washing, which most religions are or just a messed up angry person. Maybe both

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
8. Wait, you're the OP author and didn't watch the video?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:47 AM
Sep 2014


If you didn't watch it then why are you sympathetic to that family?

They even ask for prayers for THEMSELVES more than the victims' families!

 

strawberries

(498 posts)
11. I didn't watch the video of the beheading
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:04 AM
Sep 2014

I watch the video of the family apologizing for their son. Do you normally look for trouble with a twist in words? Seems you like to attack a lot. At least on my posts not sure about anyone elses. Maybe it is me and I am not being direct. I will work on that.

BTW how are those anger management classes going?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
14. Lol, I have no idea who you are or that I've ever read anything else by you
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:19 AM
Sep 2014

And if you think my post was an "attack" then 1. You are misreading it and 2. You need to develop a thicker skin.



Your OP was about the family apology video. Then you say you didn't watch "the video". Is there a video of Alton Nolen beheading that poor woman?

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
9. I just saw the video
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:47 AM
Sep 2014

Can't imagine what the second side of the story could be . . .

I think they just did themselves more harm than good.

 

strawberries

(498 posts)
13. I agree
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:17 AM
Sep 2014

you would have to be ill to do something like that. Instead of opening prison doors I hope we start opening institutions to help folks before they reach that point where the have the need to kill others

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
16. I hope he goes to jail for life.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:43 AM
Sep 2014

I don't know whether he is sane or not but he should never walk the streets again imo.

 

strawberries

(498 posts)
17. I know
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 12:32 PM
Sep 2014

unfortunately when they reach that degree of whatever one would call it, it is now too late to help them and prison forever seems to be the only option

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
15. OJ Simpson cut the heads off of 2 people in a densely populated area
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:20 AM
Sep 2014

He was high on meth and an athlete. Used a Stilleto, about 6-inch blade length and apparently it was not that noisy or difficult for him.

OJ allegedly tried to sell the murder weapon to a collector:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219166/OJ-Simpson-kept-knife-used-kill-wife-Nicole-Ron-Goldman-trying-sell-5-MILLION.html

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