Pro-ISIS radicals with machetes, knives attack Kurds in Germany (WARNING GRAPHIC VIDEO)

[Rhinodawg]

Peaceful protests against IS in Syria and Iraq organized by Kurdish nationals in several German cities ended with serious clashes with pro-jihadist Muslims in Hamburg and Celle. Police had to request reinforcements to restore order.

Police in Hamburg, a port city of 1.8 million people, used water cannons, batons and pepper spray late Tuesday to disperse crowds of warring Kurds and pro-jihadist Muslims, armed with knives and brass-knuckles, following a protest against Islamic State militants who are attacking the Kurdish town of Kobani in Syria near the Turkish border.


(WARNING..ITS NOT PRETTY)

http://rt.com/news/194060-germany-kurds-muslims-brawls/

[Kelvin Mace]

1. Are their any credible sources for this story?

I don't look to Russia for reliable journalism.

[Rhinodawg]

3. OK...Tell me all sources you find "credible".

[MohRokTah]

11. How about any source considered valid for posting in LBN?

Those are credible sources.

RT is not.

[Comrade Grumpy]

4. If you doubt a source, check it. Just saying "I don't believe so and so" is weak.

There are other sources. It took about five seconds to find them.

[Rhinodawg]

6. My man Grumpy....Thank you.

[Kelvin Mace]

12. If the source were the Weekly World News or World Net Daily

or its equivalent, why would I waste my time? Questioning an unreliable source is hardly "weak", it is the foundation of critical thinking.

[KurtNYC]

5. German source

Around 400 Kurds gathered near the Al-Nour mosque on Steindamm on Tuesday night after they had participated in a demonstration against violence by Isis, the Iraq and Syria terrorist group.

They were met on the Steindamm road in the St. Georg area by about 400 Muslims who police said were probably Salafists.

As members of the two groups began fighting at around 11pm, the police blocked off all roads to the mosque and placed their vehicles between the groups to try and calm the violence.

Demonstrators in both groups brought metal bars, machetes and sharp objects to the fight and police decided to deploy water cannons after midnight to separate them.

http://www.thelocal.de/20141008/eight-hurt-in-hamburg-street-battle-isis-kurds-salafists-islamists

[Kelvin Mace]

13. Thank you

for the link.

[OneGrassRoot]

8. I had to wade through too much right-wing stuff...

and almost gave up, but I want to be prepared for the onslaught of comments and questions in case there's any truth to it.

I found this Reuters' piece:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/08/us-mideast-crisis-germany-protests-idUSKCN0HX1DP20141008


I don't know if Reuters is considered biased any more or not.


BBC has a piece, too: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29530640

Beyond Turkey, a number of people were hurt when clashes broke out in the German city of Hamburg after hundreds of Kurdish demonstrators in Hamburg held a rally against IS militants.

Some 400 Kurdish protesters fought with a similar number of radical Muslims, police told German media. Demonstrators, some carrying knives and knuckle-dusters, were eventually separated by police firing water cannon.

Injuries were also reported after violence involving members of the Yazidi religious group, most of whom are Kurds, and ethnic Chechens in the town of Celle in Lower Saxony.

[Kelvin Mace]

10. Thanks for the links.

[Comrade Grumpy]

16. The most extensive reporting on this comes from--sorry--the Daily Mail.

Yeah, I know they're a right-wing rag. But they also seem to have a hellacious news operation, covering lots of stuff that the US media doesn't seem to get to--even in the US. Plus, they always have lots of pics and videos.

Anyway, here's a link:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2784809/Now-ISIS-clashes-spread-Europe-Riot-police-separate-hundreds-Kurds-Islamist-supporters-Germany-nine-killed-protests-Turkey.html

I think the Hamburg violence merited a line or two on CNN and the BBC.

Unlike RT, the Mail's reporting suggests it was Kurds attacking a Salafist mosque...

[Kelvin Mace]

17. I am guessing that this will show up on Fox first

since it is another great story to scare the right-wing sheep into wetting themselves.

[Xithras]

9. RT is quite reliable when they're not talking about Russia

It's a lot like Al Jazeera. Their coverage of general world events is quite good, and some of the investigative work is very impressive, but it was a propaganda piece for the Qatari government during the Doha protests, and its reporting consistently supports the Emir when it's talking about Middle Eastern politics.

I'd never take an Al Jazeera article at face value if it was reporting on the Syrian war (the Emir supports specific rebel factions, and their reporting bias reflects that), and I'd never take an RT article at face value if the subject involves Russia (you can bet money that it will always be pro-Putin). The rest of the time, however, they both tend to be quite reliable and FAR more neutral than our American media outlets.

[Kelvin Mace]

14. Unfortunately, when it is unreliable

it is WAY unreliable.

[hifiguy]

15. That is a very good rule of thumb.

[Rhinodawg]

2. This will not make Angela very happy.

[CJCRANE]

7. So much for dragnet surveillance and anti-terror laws.

Who are they really spying on?