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Thu Oct 16, 2014, 08:16 PM

7:15 CST NOW Dallas Presbyterian Whistle Blower Speaking on CNN

It's going to be very bad as we have already figured out

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Reply 7:15 CST NOW Dallas Presbyterian Whistle Blower Speaking on CNN (Original post)
TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 OP
VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #1
TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #2
truebluegreen Oct 2014 #3
TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #4
truebluegreen Oct 2014 #5
TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #6
truebluegreen Oct 2014 #7
kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #8
truebluegreen Oct 2014 #12
TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #10
TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #14
TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #15
TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #16
riverwalker Oct 2014 #9
TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #13
LeftInTX Oct 2014 #11

Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Oct 16, 2014, 08:23 PM

1. If that is indeed the case, then we should start to see an increase of patients happening

 

very soon....average incubation time is 8 days.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Oct 16, 2014, 08:28 PM

2. Good grief! Even with CDC personnel telling them what to do

hospital personnel still had their necks exposed! That was the new, improved, changing guidelines!

Too easy to touch and later transfer to mouth and eyes.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 16, 2014, 09:12 PM

3. Well, when government is the problem, why listen to it?

 

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 16, 2014, 09:26 PM

4. But government can be the solution, too.

I am not at all surprised that nurses have had little to no training on ebola.

My daughter almost quit her job because after just working her understaffed 12 hour night shift, she was then ordered to go to a 2 hour class starting at 9:00 in the morning. Her shift ended at 7:00 a.m. and she was working again that night.

She told her supervisor that she would do so when they started making the day shift go to classes in the middle of the night. LOL (Of course, her night shift supervisor was actually sympathetic...)

Frankly, I'm surprised she got away with it, but this is what a nurse's life is like. You have to love it to put up with the crap. Overworked for the bottom line. That is a nurse's life.

[Class not ebola related.]

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 16, 2014, 09:30 PM

5. I agree with you.

 

Actually, that was my point. "Government is the problem" was St Ronnie of Raygun's line. And I go in awe of nurses, and how they cope with what they have to deal with.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 16, 2014, 09:38 PM

6. I really don't think people realize how unprepared almost all nurses and and hospitals are

Just putting on proper PPE (personal protective equipment) to draw blood on a patient with certain infectious patients would cause me to stop and think "Ok, so what order do I remove these items?"

It's not that I wasn't properly trained (I worked as a lab assistant and phlebotomist), it's that we just wore that type of PPEs so infrequently that we'd have to stop and think.

And when nurses are focused on their patients, mistakes happen. I had a needle stick scare with a hep c patient that scared the crap out of me. I can't imagine working with ebola patients.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:24 PM

7. Watching Rachel the other night she was talking about The Checklist.

 

It started as a safety procedure for pilots, as planes became more complex, and I've heard of the initiative to use it in hospitals, to decrease the chances of infection. Sounds like a no-brainer in this instance too...until you realize you are dealing with desperately sick people. That complicates things a bit.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:31 PM

8. It really is not the government's fault the nurses and other staff were ill-prepared. If you can't

 

make good decisions as physicians and hospital administrators concerning the safety of your own staff, you shouldn't be in the business. Remember, government should not be telling physicians how to treat patients or run their hospitals according to the RWingers like Palin and Rush and Hannity. Why listen to the government anyway if you hate it so much?
Government puts out "guidelines" lest it be accused of being dictatorship. It's up to private hospitals to have enough expertise to deal with medical emergencies etc. Now the wingers want to say that government is the problem because they don't regulate enough... But I thought that doctors were the real experts in medicine??

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 17, 2014, 08:21 AM

12. <sigh> I'm a Democrat.

 

I didn't think I needed to use this

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 16, 2014, 11:40 PM

10. Wait, CDC personnel were actually THERE???

They were monitoring and supervising this cluster-fuck???

OMG.

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Response to TorchTheWitch (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 17, 2014, 11:03 AM

14. Yes. Exactly when they got there, I'm not sure

but it sure does seem like things didn't improve very much upon their arrival.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 17, 2014, 11:04 AM

15. is there video of this anywhere?

Thanks.

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Response to TorchTheWitch (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 17, 2014, 11:19 AM

16. Checkout Anderson Cooper's Interview with Whistleblower from Dallas Pres

It should be on the website, although I haven't checked. It goes on for quite some time.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:37 PM

9. I was amazed they also had other patients

besides Duncan in their daily assignments. So while caring for Duncan, you have to worry about your other patients, rush things to also care for them, see to their needs. Not to mention the cross contamination.

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 17, 2014, 09:06 AM

13. YEP! Where in the hell were the doctors?

Physicians should have immediately demanded complete isolation, and made the higher ups bring in more nursing staff.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Original post)

Fri Oct 17, 2014, 01:46 AM

11. Nina Pham on YouTube Thursday

Speaking from her bed in Dallas. Fortunately, her nurse is wearing proper PPE. Nina looks really good. Not even hooked up to an IV.

(Couldn't get the embed to work, so had to link)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7e8DXyVc7Lw

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