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It's going to be very bad as we have already figured out
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)very soon....average incubation time is 8 days.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)hospital personnel still had their necks exposed! That was the new, improved, changing guidelines!
Too easy to touch and later transfer to mouth and eyes.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)I am not at all surprised that nurses have had little to no training on ebola.
My daughter almost quit her job because after just working her understaffed 12 hour night shift, she was then ordered to go to a 2 hour class starting at 9:00 in the morning. Her shift ended at 7:00 a.m. and she was working again that night.
She told her supervisor that she would do so when they started making the day shift go to classes in the middle of the night. LOL (Of course, her night shift supervisor was actually sympathetic...)
Frankly, I'm surprised she got away with it, but this is what a nurse's life is like. You have to love it to put up with the crap. Overworked for the bottom line. That is a nurse's life.
[Class not ebola related.]
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Actually, that was my point. "Government is the problem" was St Ronnie of Raygun's line. And I go in awe of nurses, and how they cope with what they have to deal with.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)Just putting on proper PPE (personal protective equipment) to draw blood on a patient with certain infectious patients would cause me to stop and think "Ok, so what order do I remove these items?"
It's not that I wasn't properly trained (I worked as a lab assistant and phlebotomist), it's that we just wore that type of PPEs so infrequently that we'd have to stop and think.
And when nurses are focused on their patients, mistakes happen. I had a needle stick scare with a hep c patient that scared the crap out of me. I can't imagine working with ebola patients.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)It started as a safety procedure for pilots, as planes became more complex, and I've heard of the initiative to use it in hospitals, to decrease the chances of infection. Sounds like a no-brainer in this instance too...until you realize you are dealing with desperately sick people. That complicates things a bit.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)make good decisions as physicians and hospital administrators concerning the safety of your own staff, you shouldn't be in the business. Remember, government should not be telling physicians how to treat patients or run their hospitals according to the RWingers like Palin and Rush and Hannity. Why listen to the government anyway if you hate it so much?
Government puts out "guidelines" lest it be accused of being dictatorship. It's up to private hospitals to have enough expertise to deal with medical emergencies etc. Now the wingers want to say that government is the problem because they don't regulate enough... But I thought that doctors were the real experts in medicine??
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)I didn't think I needed to use this
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)They were monitoring and supervising this cluster-fuck???
OMG.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)but it sure does seem like things didn't improve very much upon their arrival.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Thanks.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)It should be on the website, although I haven't checked. It goes on for quite some time.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)besides Duncan in their daily assignments. So while caring for Duncan, you have to worry about your other patients, rush things to also care for them, see to their needs. Not to mention the cross contamination.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)Physicians should have immediately demanded complete isolation, and made the higher ups bring in more nursing staff.
LeftInTX
(24,554 posts)Speaking from her bed in Dallas. Fortunately, her nurse is wearing proper PPE. Nina looks really good. Not even hooked up to an IV.
(Couldn't get the embed to work, so had to link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7e8DXyVc7Lw