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7:15 CST NOW Dallas Presbyterian Whistle Blower Speaking on CNN (Original Post) TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 OP
If that is indeed the case, then we should start to see an increase of patients happening VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #1
Good grief! Even with CDC personnel telling them what to do TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #2
Well, when government is the problem, why listen to it? truebluegreen Oct 2014 #3
But government can be the solution, too. TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #4
I agree with you. truebluegreen Oct 2014 #5
I really don't think people realize how unprepared almost all nurses and and hospitals are TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #6
Watching Rachel the other night she was talking about The Checklist. truebluegreen Oct 2014 #7
It really is not the government's fault the nurses and other staff were ill-prepared. If you can't kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #8
<sigh> I'm a Democrat. truebluegreen Oct 2014 #12
Wait, CDC personnel were actually THERE??? TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #10
Yes. Exactly when they got there, I'm not sure TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #14
is there video of this anywhere? TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #15
Checkout Anderson Cooper's Interview with Whistleblower from Dallas Pres TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #16
I was amazed they also had other patients riverwalker Oct 2014 #9
YEP! Where in the hell were the doctors? TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #13
Nina Pham on YouTube Thursday LeftInTX Oct 2014 #11
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
1. If that is indeed the case, then we should start to see an increase of patients happening
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 08:23 PM
Oct 2014

very soon....average incubation time is 8 days.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
2. Good grief! Even with CDC personnel telling them what to do
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 08:28 PM
Oct 2014

hospital personnel still had their necks exposed! That was the new, improved, changing guidelines!

Too easy to touch and later transfer to mouth and eyes.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
4. But government can be the solution, too.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 09:26 PM
Oct 2014

I am not at all surprised that nurses have had little to no training on ebola.

My daughter almost quit her job because after just working her understaffed 12 hour night shift, she was then ordered to go to a 2 hour class starting at 9:00 in the morning. Her shift ended at 7:00 a.m. and she was working again that night.

She told her supervisor that she would do so when they started making the day shift go to classes in the middle of the night. LOL (Of course, her night shift supervisor was actually sympathetic...)

Frankly, I'm surprised she got away with it, but this is what a nurse's life is like. You have to love it to put up with the crap. Overworked for the bottom line. That is a nurse's life.

[Class not ebola related.]

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
5. I agree with you.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 09:30 PM
Oct 2014

Actually, that was my point. "Government is the problem" was St Ronnie of Raygun's line. And I go in awe of nurses, and how they cope with what they have to deal with.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
6. I really don't think people realize how unprepared almost all nurses and and hospitals are
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 09:38 PM
Oct 2014

Just putting on proper PPE (personal protective equipment) to draw blood on a patient with certain infectious patients would cause me to stop and think "Ok, so what order do I remove these items?"

It's not that I wasn't properly trained (I worked as a lab assistant and phlebotomist), it's that we just wore that type of PPEs so infrequently that we'd have to stop and think.

And when nurses are focused on their patients, mistakes happen. I had a needle stick scare with a hep c patient that scared the crap out of me. I can't imagine working with ebola patients.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
7. Watching Rachel the other night she was talking about The Checklist.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:24 PM
Oct 2014

It started as a safety procedure for pilots, as planes became more complex, and I've heard of the initiative to use it in hospitals, to decrease the chances of infection. Sounds like a no-brainer in this instance too...until you realize you are dealing with desperately sick people. That complicates things a bit.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
8. It really is not the government's fault the nurses and other staff were ill-prepared. If you can't
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:31 PM
Oct 2014

make good decisions as physicians and hospital administrators concerning the safety of your own staff, you shouldn't be in the business. Remember, government should not be telling physicians how to treat patients or run their hospitals according to the RWingers like Palin and Rush and Hannity. Why listen to the government anyway if you hate it so much?
Government puts out "guidelines" lest it be accused of being dictatorship. It's up to private hospitals to have enough expertise to deal with medical emergencies etc. Now the wingers want to say that government is the problem because they don't regulate enough... But I thought that doctors were the real experts in medicine??

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
14. Yes. Exactly when they got there, I'm not sure
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 11:03 AM
Oct 2014

but it sure does seem like things didn't improve very much upon their arrival.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
16. Checkout Anderson Cooper's Interview with Whistleblower from Dallas Pres
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 11:19 AM
Oct 2014

It should be on the website, although I haven't checked. It goes on for quite some time.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
9. I was amazed they also had other patients
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:37 PM
Oct 2014

besides Duncan in their daily assignments. So while caring for Duncan, you have to worry about your other patients, rush things to also care for them, see to their needs. Not to mention the cross contamination.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
13. YEP! Where in the hell were the doctors?
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 09:06 AM
Oct 2014

Physicians should have immediately demanded complete isolation, and made the higher ups bring in more nursing staff.

LeftInTX

(24,554 posts)
11. Nina Pham on YouTube Thursday
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 01:46 AM
Oct 2014

Speaking from her bed in Dallas. Fortunately, her nurse is wearing proper PPE. Nina looks really good. Not even hooked up to an IV.

(Couldn't get the embed to work, so had to link)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7e8DXyVc7Lw

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