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Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:28 PM

Should Glenn Beck seek additional help? What is "a hyperextension of [the] adrenal gland"?

Though the first obvious answer is "Who really cares? Don't waste time discussing him.", though the second obvious answer is something that profanely approximates "Let that guy burn!", and though the third obvious answer is "Of course!", an examination of Glenn's following statement seems to indicate that he is exactly as gullible as the rubes who believe his dangerous, self-serving, jingoistic, conjoined fictions of patriotism and religion (that is, if one can suspend the belief that his videos are nothing but a shabby ruse to allow Glenn to bilk his stable of rubes out of more of their money):

Here is an approximate transcription of Glenn Beck's statement from time 5:39 to time 8:04 in the video: he is discussing Carrick Brain Centers. (Following this is a 2011 commentary on chiropractic neurology from the site Science-Based Medicine along with the background of that site's editor - the author of the commentary.)




"Honestly, it is a place that you go to if you are absolutely desperate, because they do...crazy stuff...crazy stuff. ... They..uh..they engage in experimental therapy. You know the stuff the government and the insurance companies aren't sure that they believe in. And because of that they don't take insurance, and they cost quite a bit of money. And..uh..and they don't make any promises. But when you're fifteen or twenty doctors in and no diagnosis - at least, a diagnosis that you feel good about. What do you have to lose? Besides, I wondered - big miracle - what are the odds of me moving from New York City to Dallas, Texas, and buying a studio that was literally three-and-a-half minutes down the street from the only place in the world that seems to specialize in exactly what was wrong with me? So, we went and - after a few short visits - they found that I had several things going on from an autoimmune disorder to adrenal fatigue and they found the connection on everything that was going on. And for the first time gave us hope that we could reboot my system - not stop it - but reverse at least parts of it. Everything these guys told us made sense for the first time. It never felt like it made sense. Um...you know...Me never having to sleep was now finally understandable. Apparently, the last sign of adrenal failure is a hyperextension of your adrenal gland. So, in other words, I didn't need to sleep. I could have been lifting cars during my time at Fox. I wish I would have...That would have made a great episode. But now because of that, my adrenal system had blown out, and all I could do was sleep. And one thing on top of another and in the end, my immune system was looking at these natural horm...it was looking at adrenaline as an infection, and so my body was trying to kill its basic functions...."


From Science-Based Medicine:


Chiropractic Neurology
Posted by Steven Novella on November 16, 2011

...

Chiropractic neurology appears to me to be the very definition of pseudoscience – it has all the trappings of a legitimate profession, with a complex set of beliefs and practices, but there is no underlying scientific basis for any of it.

...

Some symptoms are also susceptible to conditioning. Vertigo is perhaps the best example of this. At present the most effective treatment for chronic vertigo (a subjective sense of movement, such as spinning) is vestibular therapy – physical therapy designed to condition the patient to the symptoms, to diminish them over time. It is therefore possible that some chiropractic neurology interventions are simply providing this known mechanism. For example, here is a description of Carrick’s treatment of Hockey player, Crosby:

Carrick then signals to restart the gyroscope—with one difference. This time Crosby will be turned upside-down while he is also spun around. He hasn’t experienced this dual action yet. The door clangs shut. Above it, a stack of red, yellow and green lights shines while 10 high-pitched beeps signal the gyroscope is about to start. Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!


This is a very dramatic treatment, sure to impress the naive. It follows a common philosophy in dubious neurological treatments – the notion that you can “rebuild the brain” by stimulating it. While it is true that activity and simulation are better than no activity and stimulation, it does not follow that simply increasing stimulation will increase the brain’s plasticity or recovery (a simplistic more-is-better philosophy). That basic notion was researched and discarded decades ago, for example with specific reference to psychomotor patterning treatments.

...

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/chiropractic-neurology/


Steven P. Novella, MD

Founder and currently Executive Editor of Science-Based Medicine Steven Novella, MD is an academic clinical neurologist at the Yale University School of Medicine. He is also the president and co-founder of the New England Skeptical Society, the host and producer of the popular weekly science podcast, The Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe, and the author of the NeuroLogicaBlog, a daily blog that covers news and issues in neuroscience, but also general science, scientific skepticism, philosophy of science, critical thinking, and the intersection of science with the media and society. Dr. Novella also contributes every Sunday to The Rogues Gallery, the official blog of the SGU.

...

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/editorial-staff/steven-p-novella-md-founder-and-editor/


At some point, I thought for certain that Glenn was going to exhibit empathy and was going to call for universal health care. I guess I was wrong...

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Reply Should Glenn Beck seek additional help? What is "a hyperextension of [the] adrenal gland"? (Original post)
xocet Nov 2014 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2014 #1
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drm604 Nov 2014 #5
UTUSN Nov 2014 #2
Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #4
meadowlark5 Nov 2014 #6
silvershadow Nov 2014 #7
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Tom Ripley Nov 2014 #9
FSogol Nov 2014 #17
hootinholler Nov 2014 #10
lonestarnot Nov 2014 #21
WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #11
Chellee Nov 2014 #13
jmowreader Nov 2014 #15
WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #25
Lint Head Nov 2014 #12
Paladin Nov 2014 #20
Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #14
Buns_of_Fire Nov 2014 #16
hobbit709 Nov 2014 #18
spinbaby Nov 2014 #19
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Response to xocet (Original post)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:37 PM

1. Sounds bogus to me. "Hyperextension of your adrenal gland"?

You can't hyperextend a gland, FFS; hyperextension is when a joint is extended beyond its normal range. Either Beck has been suckered by some pseudoscience practitioner who wants him to spend a bundle to treat what is probably some ordinary medical problem, or -- much more likely -- Beck is trying to sucker the dumb saps who actually take him seriously by telling them he has some horrible disease that traditional medicine can't diagnose or treat, so he has to go to some "chiropractic neurology" practitioner whose experimental treatments aren't covered by insurance -- and he needs money to save his life! Now that the gold market has more or less collapsed he needs some other scam to bilk his faithful suckers.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:47 PM

3. He hyperextended his credibility many years ago.

If he is being fleeced by a quack....good.
If he is attempting to fleece his audience...things are normal (for Glenn Beck)
If he is trying to give some plausible explanation for falling rating,.... plunge away.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:58 PM

5. Google hyperextension of the adrenal gland.

All you get are pages discussing this story. If there was a real medical condition by that name, surely there'd be Wikipedia, Pubmed, or WebMD articles about it.

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:43 PM

2. Is the video about his latest condition? A few yrs ago he was freaking over a visit to the E.R.

for hemorrhoids, how he had to wait in the waiting room for a couple of hours, and then how he discussed his condition in the most stage dramatic terms, with his quotations of the doctors being scientific and matter-of-fact. Did he get "cured" from the most recent thing?

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:57 PM

4. I feel like my leg has been hyperextended. nt

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:08 PM

6. I read another article that he was on the verge of Addison's disease

These are all legitimate problems. He was just incorrectly diagnosed A lot of people have adrenal problems - too much cortisol, not enough cortisol. Take some glandulars to help take the stress of the adrenal glands and your body will begin to heal its self. I have a friend who has diabetes and total adrenal gland failure - she takes all her meds, get monitored regularly and she seems like a normal, healthy person.

Pretty dramatic that he's on the verge of death. I'm sure if felt horrible, but once he was properly diagnosed, he'll be able to live a long life ruining the lives others with his radio show.

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:14 PM

7. Sounds straight out of Scientology or some other cultish outfit. nt

 

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:17 PM

8. Let's face facts, years and years and years ago Beck was saying outright bullshit.

 

The man has never not said bullshit, be it radio or TV. At this point, it is impossible to know if he is telling the truth or lying. Maybe Beck is a pathological liar.

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:53 PM

9. He should just go toward the fucking light already

 

Lay down your burdens, Glenn, lay them down

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Response to Tom Ripley (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:43 AM

17. DUzy!

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:59 PM

10. A side effect from suffering chronic rectal cranium inversion

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:45 AM

21. Yeah nothing a good laxative wouldn't cure.

 

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 11:00 PM

11. I'm not seeing an ICD-9-CM diagnosis code for it.

Wait, Specified Site NEC 718.88?!

I don't wish pain on anyone, but I truly detest Glenn "Crocodile Tears" Beck.

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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 04:00 AM

13. If we're being generous, I say 255.9 Adrenal disorder, NOS

However, in reality, I'm willing to bet it's 296.8 Manic-depressive psychosis, other & unspecified, or possibly 292.11 Drug induced psychotic disorder with delusions.

I would like to know what the first 20 doctors told him, that he didn't like. You notice that he doesn't say they didn't give him a diagnosis. He just says he didn't "feel good about it."

Glenn: "Well Doctor, what's the verdict?"

Doctor: "Thorazine. Lots of Thorazine."

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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:08 AM

15. In Beck's case, the correct ICD-9 code is 560.9

"Intestinal obstruction, not otherwise specified."

Craniorectal inversion isn't an official diagnosis, so this will have to do.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:00 PM

25. Heh. I'm pretty sure there's no procedure code for...

cephalanalectomy, but he's in dire need of one.

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:05 AM

12. Beck is an attention seeking boob who wants pity.

So. LETS THROW A PITTY PARTY!!!! Yeah!

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Response to Lint Head (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:30 AM

20. And his needs are being met, here on a Democratic site.

Fuck him and everything he stands for.

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 05:32 AM

14. I think he must have upset a lot of his listeners

when he said the President was right and he had been wrong on (was it Iraq?) a few months ago and he is using the fake explanation of a mysterious "illness" to bring his listeners back. Basicically, he is saying "I wasn't myself" when I said the President was right but I'm all better now. At least, that is my guess. A story with that many unanswered questions has got to be cover for some other reason he doesn't want to say out loud.

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:41 AM

16. Is an "adrenal hyperextension" similar to a "brain hemorrhoid"?

Mommy, Glenn's hyperextending his glands again. Right there in front of God and everybody. Make him stop.

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:47 AM

18. How does he continually put his foot in his mouth while his head is up his ass?

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:59 AM

19. As I suspected....

...his own body is is tired of his bull#### and is trying to throttle him.

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:46 AM

22. I think hyperextension of the adrenal gland is "I'm a lying sack of shit in need of pity party"

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:12 AM

23. self serving tool.

anyone with even the very least amount of class would keep their physical problems to themselves and to their families.

moron beck looks at it as a money making opportunity.

"feel sorry for me!!!"

grifters use everything they can to grift.

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Response to xocet (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:27 AM

24. Beck lies.

Assign no weight to anything he says. He may have some sort of medical or neurological problem, but you will learn nothing by paying attention to him.

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