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Cursing in court gets you 120 days... fair?

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Cursing in court gets you 120 days... fair? (Original post)	Oktober	Nov 2014	OP
Absolutely. As a criminal defense attorney, I will note to you that the judge did not respond at	msanthrope	Nov 2014	#1
LOL, of course you would support 4 months in jail for cussing. You are part of the problem. nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#65
Judges must maintain order	MattBaggins	Nov 2014	#77
Well shit, let's make it three years, that will teach him. Nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#78
As I noted, the sentence was running concurrent with a revoke. Further,	msanthrope	Nov 2014	#114
He didn't run it concurrently with his no bond status on the open case.	rug	Nov 2014	#119
Reespect mah athorithay! nt	Xipe Totec	Nov 2014	#2
Reminded me of "The Breakfast Club" where Bender kept getting more detentions.	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#3
Getting into a pissing contest with a judge usually isn't a good idea.	Lurks Often	Nov 2014	#4
no, not fair. way too long a sentence especially for people who are not familiar with courts etc	La Lioness Priyanka	Nov 2014	#5
Probably could have figured it out after the first one...	Oktober	Nov 2014	#7
Guy was about to get just 60 days but then he had to push it even further.	dilby	Nov 2014	#9
not familiar with courts???	TorchTheWitch	Nov 2014	#33
putting aways omeone for 4 months because they cursed at a judge is beyond stupid	La Lioness Priyanka	Nov 2014	#35
I have a feeling he won't do it again.	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#39
Well shit, then make it 6 months. What a stupid argument. nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#66
Deterrence is stupid?	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#71
LOL, Exactly? so somehow you know two weeks wouldnt of worked?? Nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#74
Well he got 60 days for saying it the first time, then he promptly did it again.	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#79
Nearly everybody here thinks the extra 60 days is fair. I'm not sure about it but...	BlueJazz	Nov 2014	#63
the guy had his opportunity to keep it at 60 days . . . he decided to push it	DrDan	Nov 2014	#45
What kind of familiarity do you need to know not to call the judge a cock?	Renew Deal	Nov 2014	#55
I have a hunch it's not his first time in court	KinMd	Nov 2014	#76
Guy deserved it.	dilby	Nov 2014	#6
No, that's absurd.	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#8
agreed.	La Lioness Priyanka	Nov 2014	#10
Strongly disagree. Respect for the law is very much in the public interest.	badtoworse	Nov 2014	#11
The law is often against public interest.	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#16
Thanks, but I'll stick with the law. - nt	badtoworse	Nov 2014	#30
Why is that? nt	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#85
I'm not a big fan of anarchy.	badtoworse	Nov 2014	#89
Nothing the poster said would bring about anarchy in any way. nt.	NCTraveler	Nov 2014	#96
"We should have absolutely no respect for the law, ...	badtoworse	Nov 2014	#97
No, its not.	NCTraveler	Nov 2014	#98
Anarchy was in response to ZombieHorde's post that talked about no respect for the law.	badtoworse	Nov 2014	#99
Thank you.	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#105
From your few, yet succint words here, I think we take a similar stance.	NCTraveler	Nov 2014	#116
I suspect	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#121
I was advocating nonviolent solutions to nonviolent problems.	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#101
You've moderated your position	badtoworse	Nov 2014	#117
I don't think calling anyone a cocksucker is cool.	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#120
Was the law against the public interest in the hearing when this particular case took place?	LanternWaste	Nov 2014	#34
My statement was about how we treat people.	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#83
OK, let's forget	pipi_k	Nov 2014	#47
Would you sentence someone to 120 days in jail for calling	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#84
LOL, do you really pay attention to the legal system......	Logical	Nov 2014	#68
So how would what this jerk did improve things?	badtoworse	Nov 2014	#90
To be fair the guy was in front of the judge for assault with a knife.	dilby	Nov 2014	#12
I agree, but that is not why he was sentenced for 120 days. nt	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#17
What would our court system look like if you could just address the judge anyway you like?	dilby	Nov 2014	#25
The guy made a rude remark as he walked away.	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#80
It degrades the authority of the justice system...	Oktober	Nov 2014	#13
The justice system is corrupt, and should be degraded. nt	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#82
While I don't agree with what he did....	NCTraveler	Nov 2014	#21
What would you suggest	pipi_k	Nov 2014	#48
How about a night in jail to see if he gets the message...	Hippo_Tron	Nov 2014	#62
Well, he got 60 days off the bat the first time he did it, then he promptly did it again.	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#111
Just guessing he's a little late for a "Scared Straight" approach.	alphafemale	Nov 2014	#118
Literally hundreds of suggestions over removing him from society and taking away his rights.	NCTraveler	Nov 2014	#95
Should Bernie Madoff have gone to prison?	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#40
I am not benefited in any way by him being incarcerated.	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#81
The way that people benefit is that others may see the severe sentence he got,	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#86
Loss of assets would scare most wealthy people. nt	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#87
Easy for them to stash millions beyond reach, even if they are caught.	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#92
I would rather we change that than continue our violence. nt	ZombieHorde	Nov 2014	#100
The judge was more than patient	leftynyc	Nov 2014	#14
The guy should sue	NobodyHere	Nov 2014	#15
He has a First Amendment right to call a judge a "cocksucker" during court proceedings? (nt)	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#41
good luck with that . . . bet he would have a hard time finding someone to take that case	DrDan	Nov 2014	#44
and who is going to decide his suit? a judge. dismissed.	jberryhill	Nov 2014	#51
Fuck no	OriginalGeek	Nov 2014	#18
YOU BEAT ME TO IT!	Old Nick	Nov 2014	#20
It's the law. Fair has nothing to do with it.	Ykcutnek	Nov 2014	#19
I don't think a cell was the only option with respect to punishment under the law. nt.	NCTraveler	Nov 2014	#26
Wrong, the judge is not forced to use 120 days. WTF? nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#67
I would say a judge deserves an amount of respect. Then...........	wandy	Nov 2014	#22
Companies don't run county jails.	former9thward	Nov 2014	#107
Oh. Does that mean they are allowed to or.........	wandy	Nov 2014	#112
It probably means counties have not found anybody willing to do it.	former9thward	Nov 2014	#113
He deserved it and needs some serious attitude adjustments.	DebJ	Nov 2014	#23
You're right	NobodyHere	Nov 2014	#57
LOL nope. The dangerous brat with the attitude of a 2 year old.	DebJ	Nov 2014	#60
So.....	NobodyHere	Nov 2014	#73
So was that 60 days for the knife and 120 days for being rude?	Iggo	Nov 2014	#24
60 days for one insult... and then another 60 for a second when he wasn't happy about it...	Oktober	Nov 2014	#27
YEah that's ridiculous	OriginalGeek	Nov 2014	#31
He had his bond revoked so he swore	dilby	Nov 2014	#28
No. Calling a judge a cock does though	Boom Sound 416	Nov 2014	#29
Strange as it may seem a courtroom is not a democracy.	lpbk2713	Nov 2014	#32
A criminal defense attorney friend calls it "robe fever" when judges act like that..	Hassin Bin Sober	Nov 2014	#42
Rule 1 in court: Shut the fuck up	chrisa	Nov 2014	#36
Twice...	Oktober	Nov 2014	#37
If dumb ass had said that to the judge in a grocery store he walks.	IADEMO2004	Nov 2014	#38
100% appropriate	DrDan	Nov 2014	#43
Good for the judge.	bigwillq	Nov 2014	#46
Not sure	pipi_k	Nov 2014	#49
Maybe--maybe--it would get him to appreciate	bigwillq	Nov 2014	#52
In the judge's sandbox, ya gotta play by the judge's rules. Absolutely fair.	WillowTree	Nov 2014	#50
He'll probably learn even worse behavior from other inmates.	Louisiana1976	Nov 2014	#58
I have a feeling he won't be mouthing off to judges again, though (nt)	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#59
Not fair. 2 weeks is fair. nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#69
Only if it takes place in a venue that you control.	WillowTree	Nov 2014	#72
Hey I get it tough sentences just like the GOP loves! nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#75
He got 60 days the first time he did it, then promptly did it again.	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#93
What did he think was going to happen? Not too bright, that one is. n/t	Throd	Nov 2014	#53
In this case yes.	Renew Deal	Nov 2014	#54
The inability to shut the hell up in court shows a lack of impulse control that is dangerous	Recursion	Nov 2014	#56
Please explain to me what good this does for society to have him in jail for 4 months	Hippo_Tron	Nov 2014	#61
No, but judges get to do what they want. Immunity and all. nt	Logical	Nov 2014	#64
Yup totally fair.	Egnever	Nov 2014	#70
How many worse things can you do	JonLP24	Nov 2014	#88
A person shouldn't behave that way.	WhiteAndNerdy	Nov 2014	#91
Absolutely absurd.	RedCappedBandit	Nov 2014	#94
How hard is it not to call a judge a cock?	Recursion	Nov 2014	#103
The issue is the fairness of the punishment.	RedCappedBandit	Nov 2014	#104
Contempt of court is not a question of law but of demeanor	Recursion	Nov 2014	#106
None of that has anything to do	RedCappedBandit	Nov 2014	#108
I don't see it as absurd.	Recursion	Nov 2014	#109
Your sarcasm aside, we disagree.	RedCappedBandit	Nov 2014	#115
Well he got 60 days for the first time he did it, then he promptly did it again.	Nye Bevan	Nov 2014	#110
The judge was actually pretty cool for the first two times	Recursion	Nov 2014	#102

Response to Oktober (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 04:04 PM

msanthrope (37,549 posts)

1. Absolutely. As a criminal defense attorney, I will note to you that the judge did not respond at

all to the first use of profanity.

But the gay slur used against the judge was deserving of time. And the judge was extremely patient. The continued misbehavior?

Yeah....120 days, served concurrently with the no bond, is about right.

He could probably get it cut if he sobers up and writes a letter of apology to the judge.

Cursing in court gets you 120 days... fair?

1. Absolutely. As a criminal defense attorney, I will note to you that the judge did not respond at

65. LOL, of course you would support 4 months in jail for cussing. You are part of the problem. nt

77. Judges must maintain order

78. Well shit, let's make it three years, that will teach him. Nt

114. As I noted, the sentence was running concurrent with a revoke. Further,

119. He didn't run it concurrently with his no bond status on the open case.

2. Reespect mah athorithay! nt

3. Reminded me of "The Breakfast Club" where Bender kept getting more detentions.

4. Getting into a pissing contest with a judge usually isn't a good idea.

5. no, not fair. way too long a sentence especially for people who are not familiar with courts etc

7. Probably could have figured it out after the first one...

9. Guy was about to get just 60 days but then he had to push it even further.

33. not familiar with courts???

35. putting aways omeone for 4 months because they cursed at a judge is beyond stupid

39. I have a feeling he won't do it again.

66. Well shit, then make it 6 months. What a stupid argument. nt

71. Deterrence is stupid?

74. LOL, Exactly? so somehow you know two weeks wouldnt of worked?? Nt

79. Well he got 60 days for saying it the first time, then he promptly did it again.

63. Nearly everybody here thinks the extra 60 days is fair. I'm not sure about it but...

45. the guy had his opportunity to keep it at 60 days . . . he decided to push it

55. What kind of familiarity do you need to know not to call the judge a cock?

76. I have a hunch it's not his first time in court

6. Guy deserved it.

8. No, that's absurd.

10. agreed.

11. Strongly disagree. Respect for the law is very much in the public interest.

16. The law is often against public interest.

30. Thanks, but I'll stick with the law. - nt

85. Why is that? nt

89. I'm not a big fan of anarchy.

96. Nothing the poster said would bring about anarchy in any way. nt.

97. "We should have absolutely no respect for the law, ...

98. No, its not.

99. Anarchy was in response to ZombieHorde's post that talked about no respect for the law.

105. Thank you.

116. From your few, yet succint words here, I think we take a similar stance.

121. I suspect

101. I was advocating nonviolent solutions to nonviolent problems.

117. You've moderated your position

120. I don't think calling anyone a cocksucker is cool.

34. Was the law against the public interest in the hearing when this particular case took place?

83. My statement was about how we treat people.

47. OK, let's forget

84. Would you sentence someone to 120 days in jail for calling

68. LOL, do you really pay attention to the legal system......

90. So how would what this jerk did improve things?

12. To be fair the guy was in front of the judge for assault with a knife.

17. I agree, but that is not why he was sentenced for 120 days. nt

25. What would our court system look like if you could just address the judge anyway you like?

80. The guy made a rude remark as he walked away.

13. It degrades the authority of the justice system...

82. The justice system is corrupt, and should be degraded. nt

21. While I don't agree with what he did....

48. What would you suggest

62. How about a night in jail to see if he gets the message...

111. Well, he got 60 days off the bat the first time he did it, then he promptly did it again.

118. Just guessing he's a little late for a "Scared Straight" approach.

95. Literally hundreds of suggestions over removing him from society and taking away his rights.

40. Should Bernie Madoff have gone to prison?

81. I am not benefited in any way by him being incarcerated.

86. The way that people benefit is that others may see the severe sentence he got,

87. Loss of assets would scare most wealthy people. nt

92. Easy for them to stash millions beyond reach, even if they are caught.

100. I would rather we change that than continue our violence. nt

14. The judge was more than patient

15. The guy should sue

41. He has a First Amendment right to call a judge a "cocksucker" during court proceedings? (nt)

44. good luck with that . . . bet he would have a hard time finding someone to take that case

51. and who is going to decide his suit? a judge. dismissed.

18. Fuck no

20. YOU BEAT ME TO IT!

19. It's the law. Fair has nothing to do with it.

26. I don't think a cell was the only option with respect to punishment under the law. nt.

67. Wrong, the judge is not forced to use 120 days. WTF? nt

22. I would say a judge deserves an amount of respect. Then...........

107. Companies don't run county jails.

112. Oh. Does that mean they are allowed to or.........

113. It probably means counties have not found anybody willing to do it.