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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:30 PM

 

Dear Mr. President...you lost me at....

"We are a nation built on the rule of law" I heard you speak these words last night and my mind went racing to remember when these words were last true. Certainly not when George Bush and Dick Cheney went skipping off the stage. Not when the bankers went free or the illegal wars were started on a pack of lies. And not as we live in cities and villages with militarized police departments.

No, I can't remember when last there was a rule of law for all. The division is clear and I am sorry that those words were the best that you could do last night.

I am sure that it hurt to say them. At some point you just have to stop talking. But you figured that out after the first rambling answer. The scene was heart breaking.

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Reply Dear Mr. President...you lost me at.... (Original post)
peace13 Nov 2014 OP
hobbit709 Nov 2014 #1
joeybee12 Nov 2014 #2
KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #5
valerief Nov 2014 #13
SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2014 #19
sylvanus Nov 2014 #30
samsingh Nov 2014 #3
Octafish Nov 2014 #4
merrily Nov 2014 #6
noiretextatique Nov 2014 #7
iandhr Nov 2014 #8
nc4bo Nov 2014 #10
heaven05 Nov 2014 #14
Skidmore Nov 2014 #16
love_katz Nov 2014 #17
pampango Nov 2014 #12
Mr Dixon Nov 2014 #9
grasswire Nov 2014 #11
stupidicus Nov 2014 #15
belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #18
jillan Nov 2014 #20
peace13 Nov 2014 #24
Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #21
Orrex Nov 2014 #23
arthritisR_US Nov 2014 #22
maced666 Nov 2014 #25
Flying Squirrel Nov 2014 #26
Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #27
peace13 Nov 2014 #29
Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #28
Odin2005 Nov 2014 #31
Enthusiast Nov 2014 #32

Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:31 PM

1. the law is only for those that can buy it.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:35 PM

2. +1

 

The cost is too high for most of us peons.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:44 PM

5. There are actually two sets of laws: one for the well-to-do and the

 

"Law of the Jungle" for the rest of us.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:29 PM

13. Laws are written to protect those who can buy laws. nt

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:32 PM

19. If you have been in a civil case

 

you find out quickly just how true those words are.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:29 PM

30. Exactly, like this douche.

 

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:39 PM

3. there is only a law for the rich or the truly evil

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:41 PM

4. Well said, peace13.

Like taxes, laws are for the little people in the United States of America today.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:53 PM

6. The only use the PTB have for the rule of law is to keep us in line.

They always have an excuse why the law doesn't apply to their actions.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:58 PM

7. it is a charade...and a lie

it was never true, and it is not true now.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:00 PM

8. What the **** did you expect him to say?

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Response to iandhr (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:27 PM

10. Come right out and say the truth.....stats are on his side.

Reminds me of a man or woman referring to the person they have an affair with as "them" or "some people" rather than that woman or that man I'm cheating on you with.

We have a race problem in this country. We have a police violence problem in this country. We have an inequality problem in this country and we all need to be honest with ourselves and admit it. How about we work together to eliminate these problems.

All of this despite that the fact that a black man was ELECTED POTUS.

The few are making life miserable for the many.



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Response to nc4bo (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:37 PM

14. a lot can't/won't

 

admit to what you wrote because it threatens their perceived privilege garnered from a democracy designed to be divisive based on race, money, social class. The few have always made the many miserable, it's a pretty sad situation though that some of those "many" keep voting for those who can and will make their lives miserable. I just can't understand that type of hate and stupidity.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:41 PM

16. The election of a black man as President has been used

by the right wing to build their base of racists, and along with that they gave permission to racist language and behavior to come to the forefront. Pushback needs to occur on all fronts--politicians, media, and even your next door neighbor We will not tolerate racism. Period.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:15 PM

17. ^^^^This!^^^^ + a gazillion!

I couldn't say it any better.

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Response to iandhr (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:29 PM

12. 'We are a nation built on violence without consequence, theft without punishment,

do unto others as they have done and will do to you. IOW, we are a republican nation. So go out there and get you some.'

Surely nothing bad could come from that.

That's why I'm voting for an anonymous DU poster for president next time. They tell it like it is, consequences be damned.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:15 PM

9. Immortal Technique:Rich Man's World (1%) Lyrics

You know my C.E.O. Masonic steez, cheese
Only little people pay all these taxes and fees
Since you were born we controlled what you watch and you read
And pretty soon were gonna, own the fuckin' air that you breathe

I take what I want, fucker, I don't have to say please
I'll convince you that it's good for you, take it and leave
You think Presidents are the face of a nation
I put 'em all where they are, end of the conversation

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:29 PM

11. I don't think it hurt him to say those words.

I think he really believes the claptrap. He is of the establishment.

I had the same reaction to this the last time he said those words, recently.

There is no equal justice under the law.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:39 PM

15. well, in fairness, it was an accurate statement

 

it's no small wonder given what those laws were, that the black man/woman/child has gone from what, 2/3 of a man to practically valueless in the eyes of too many.

He needs to own up to the fact that his exercising of prosecutorial discretion in the case of the war criminals and criminal bankers will and has only further entrenched the notion and real world consequences of unequal justice -- the even uglier cousin of wealth/income inequality. Add in the death and carnage of illegal/immoral wars, and it's no small wonder that so many with a gun wanna piece of the "justice" pie.

Did he say anything about "leading by example"?

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:30 PM

18. oh potus oh dear. "We are a nation built on the rule of law"

 

just ask the real americans about rule of law -

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:42 PM

20. I am one of those Obama-bots (I guess that's my label) & I have to say last nite

was not one of his finer moments.

I thought he looked weak, defeated and out of touch.
His words did nothing to inspire or heal.

Maybe it was the split screen? Hard to say, but it was the first time I found myself thinking "shut up already".

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Response to jillan (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:52 PM

24. He looked tired for sure.

 

When he started to answer the question and began to ramble I questioned why he would go off script in this situation. But opening with that same old line ....my reaction was much like yours.

I can't imagine dealing with a rouge Secret Service and fearing for the safety of my family. The man has a full plate for sure.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:43 PM

21. The President is 100% correct. Only fascists would abandon the rule of law in difficult times.

Abandon what the country was built on and you let them win.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:10 PM

23. Surely this is the best of all possible worlds.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:44 PM

22. Good OP. the rule of law is extremely selective. nt

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 04:14 PM

25. I thought it was a great speech. But he doesn't do bad speeches.

 

Strong point - one of many - he OWNS.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 04:21 AM

26. Way to draw out a lurker. I haven't even rec'd anything in months and months.

 

But I still read every day.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 04:22 AM

27. White people lecturing the black president on how to talk to black people.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:11 PM

29. So sorry.

 

I worked my #%^ off to help get this man elected. I expect to be be included when he addresses this country. Your point is interesting. Pretty sure that the black people you think he was talking to know that the rule of law is a joke. I expect the President to address the nation when something as horrific as this happens.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 04:31 AM

28. Isn't this the DOJ that said major crimes by corporations are "violations of the law, not offenses"?

OK so Holder has apparently a good civil rights record (but no victories to show for it) --

How is his blatant double standard on "non-prosecutable corporate crime" rule of law?

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:36 PM

31. We are under the rule of Capitalist Law for Capitalist pigs.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Thu Nov 27, 2014, 09:03 AM

32. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!

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