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Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 10:39 PM Nov 2014

Sinead O'Connor

This is a beautiful song by the female Priest, Sinead O'Connor. In it, she offers healing for herself. Abused as a child by her family and her church, the institutions that were supposed to protect her, she continues to protest. She may not be liked by some but she stands up to the powerful by loving the weak, one must respect that. This is for the child in all of us.



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Sinead O'Connor (Original Post) Miigwech Nov 2014 OP
Thank you for that. Almost too beautiful and moving to listen to. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #1
What is she a priest of? Wella Nov 2014 #2
Ordained Miigwech Nov 2014 #4
"Irish Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church" Wella Nov 2014 #5
So she's a priest in the same way packman Nov 2014 #8
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Nov 2014 #11
There are priests and priestesses in many different religions, and they take different paths... Hekate Nov 2014 #12
Who is "Sweeney"? packman Nov 2014 #15
The author of post #11, or so he says Hekate Nov 2014 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Nov 2014 #19
I am not an average S.O.B. packman Nov 2014 #14
no packman, she isn't. roguevalley Nov 2014 #13
I love Sinéad O'Connor packman Nov 2014 #17
I like Anni Defranco Sweeney Nov 2014 #21
But that wasn't what happened here. Ken Burch Dec 2014 #24
No. More like an honorary degree from a religious organization/church. Cerridwen Nov 2014 #18
No. She'd be a Roman Catholic priest Ken Burch Dec 2014 #23
I LOVE Sinead O'Connor. vanlassie Nov 2014 #3
Beautiful. Thanks Miigwech. nt Mnemosyne Nov 2014 #6
k and r dembotoz Nov 2014 #7
She is wonderful. Always loved her the first time I heard her. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #9
Nice Miigwech Nov 2014 #20
Her latest song Miigwech Nov 2014 #22
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
1. Thank you for that. Almost too beautiful and moving to listen to.
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 10:41 PM
Nov 2014

A healing song for a wounded world.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
4. Ordained
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 10:52 PM
Nov 2014

"In the late 1990s, Bishop Michael Cox of the Irish Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church (an Independent Catholic group not in communion with the Catholic Church) ordained O'Connor as a priest. The Catholic Church considers ordination of women to be invalid and asserts that a person attempting the sacrament of ordination upon a woman incurs excommunication.[75] The bishop had contacted her to offer ordination following her appearance on the RTÉ's Late Late Show, during which she told the presenter, Gay Byrne, that had she not been a singer, she would have wished to have been a Catholic priest. After her ordination, she indicated that she wished to be called Mother Bernadette Mary." Wikipedia

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
8. So she's a priest in the same way
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 11:58 PM
Nov 2014

that I could become a pastor if I send a guy $100 to a college he founded and runs in his shed in the backyard and sells his certificate of Pastorhood via the internet. Yah, a priest "Mother Bernadette Mary"- best laugh of the day.

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Hekate

(90,627 posts)
12. There are priests and priestesses in many different religions, and they take different paths...
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 01:31 AM
Nov 2014

....to take up their calling. No one has a lock on ultimate truth, including you, Sweeney; most just strive toward it as best we can.

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packman

(16,296 posts)
17. I love Sinéad O'Connor
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 10:28 AM
Nov 2014

And have since I first saw her way back when on SNL singing "Nothing Compares 2U". She had/has a quality of passion, depth and despair that you rarely see in a performer whose works comes from her heart and experiences. WHAT I objected to in my mini-rant was the handing out of phony titles by organizations. I am a firm believer that titles should mean something and should be earned and not passed out for life experiences alone - if so, I deserve a much grander title than given to me by an earlier poster.

Sweeney

(505 posts)
21. I like Anni Defranco
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 05:03 PM
Nov 2014

Art is subject, and her subject is love, most often, and love is what life is all about. I don't care what her orientation is. She is one of the best poets I have ever found.
Sweeney

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
24. But that wasn't what happened here.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:11 AM
Dec 2014

And you've belittled her ordination for no real reason. It's not as if her entrance into the priesthood of this church has harmed anyone.

Cerridwen

(13,252 posts)
18. No. More like an honorary degree from a religious organization/church.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 11:36 AM
Nov 2014

Other women priests have been ordained in the Anglican Church and others still have formed their own religious groups such as the Roman Catholic Women Priests.

Dissent amongst the religious is hardly new. It began long before the New Testament. If you look at the history during and shortly after the time frame of Jesus, you'll see many religious debating and discriminating against each others' beliefs and religious practices. A lot of religious persecution was religion against religion; including many of the Christ centered sects. The result is generally the creation of another religion to accommodate the beliefs of their membership. In other cases the history books, written by the "winners," just completely ignore them as though they never existed or refer to them as sects rather than religions.

Great schisms have happened and new religions are born.

The Roman Catholic church has had a few groups splinter from it's control. Including an early version of the Irish Catholic Church.



 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
23. No. She'd be a Roman Catholic priest
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:08 AM
Dec 2014

if that church wasn't so obsessed with defending its entrenched phallocracy.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
9. She is wonderful. Always loved her the first time I heard her.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 12:17 AM
Nov 2014

Back when working with a small group of people in an office we took breaks once in a while from our stress, blasted this one of Sinead's and danced wild.

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