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Bishop Jenky,
I grew up in a Catholic home, went to a Catholic grade school and for a couple of years was an altar boy. Having been forced to attend church in my younger years, I assumed my children would feel relief at staying home on Sundays. I was wrong. My two oldest would beg me to take them to church, actually saying, You got to go when you were my age! So, I explained that the Church and I emphasized the Church, not the lay Catholics were backward in their thinking. About birth control, women, gays - and that when priests did awful things, they protected the Church at all costs, and made the wrong things they did, much, much worse.
I also explained that the most conservative, most fanatical in the Church hierarchy were responsible for the Crusades, the Inquisition, aiding Hitler during the Holocaust and numerous other atrocities throughout history. I told them that even though most of those things were far in the past, some of the fanatics in the Church still interpreted morality though the eyes of reactionaries that are incapable of compassion and logical thought. I did add that there were many in the Church, priests and nuns that helped the poor and hungry, stood up against immoral wars, etc., and that they were a credit to the Church and humanity as a whole. But we still werent going, at least until they all acted Christ-like and not Christian.
My children are now in their early twenties and I showed them what you said the other day about Obama, Hitler and Stalin. Their reaction Wow, its worse than I thought it was. I responded with, Me too.
This after years of defending the Church, telling people, No its the evangelicals that are nuts, the Catholics dont think like that. After the Vatican blaming 60s liberals for the priests pedophilia, after the embarrassing reaction to the phony birth control controversy and now your disgusting remarks, I can no longer defend the Church.
At least I know positively, that I did the right thing leaving it.
punkin87
(350 posts)Good one!
lastlib
(23,168 posts)zorahopkins
(1,320 posts)Churches should not only be taxed, but they should be taxed at a very high (like 75 - 85%) rate.
They own vast parcels of property. They are, for the most part, totally corrupt.
Tax them til it hurts!
punkin87
(350 posts)suede1
(892 posts)But now they seem a little crazy. What the hell happened?
D23MIURG23
(2,845 posts)Pope Ratzi probably doesn't do much to help matters either.
Just a guess.
life long demo
(1,113 posts)I'm Catholic. And I believe the church has lost it's way. He is becomming an enforcer for the church. I'm in crisis. My Pope is John 23rd. Who welcomed all. Ratzinger is more like the GOP.
ihavenobias
(13,532 posts)Yes.
JerriNM
(2 posts)Just joined, been visiting
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)20score
(4,769 posts)Tax Man
(104 posts)compared to this one.....http://www.democraticunderground.com/125131081
eyewall
(674 posts)That which was merely looney has passed over into overt non-reality. No one would have believed it could be this weird in public just 30 years ago. Reagan popped on the political scene like a character from a Merrie Melodies cartoon and it's been non stop cognitive dissonance ever since.
The Catholics have always used the devil. Perhaps now, their devil is using them.