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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:58 AM Dec 2014

Just wondering...

Just how often do NYPD officers lose their jobs or even face prosecution for negligent homicide?

Basically, whenever they take someone's life when that person did nothing to have it taken: Running someone over in a speeding patrol car accident, shot in the chest just for walking in a darkened stairwell or any other "tragic accident" as they like to put it.

Do they even care about that life that was taken, or is their first instinct to find a way to cover their own asses?

Given the callous disregard that the Police their seems to have for anyone except themselves, I'm guessing that none of them have. Can anyone prove me wrong?

You know, with the bar set as low as to just go home at the end of a shift in order to constitute the definition of having a "good day" on duty, I'm surprised that the NYPD solves any real crimes at all... After all, most of their time is spent harassing, humiliating and even brutalizing people for no good goddamn reason at all.

What the fuck would they be doing if they had real jobs?

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safeinOhio

(32,664 posts)
1. I was married to a cop
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:13 PM
Dec 2014

Things she said

Who's going to arrest me I'm a cop.


as a professional courtesy

I'm a member of the largest gang in the country, mess with anyone of us and you mess with all of us.

Anything you say will be misquoted and used against you.

I keep a throw down.

The first thing I do when pulled over is flash my badge.

I also learned that not all cops think like her. In every department there is always one officer that will write a ticket for anyone, cop, mayor and even his boss. Those are the only honest ones.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
2. They seem themselves as an occupying force especially in black neighborhoods mostly
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:19 PM
Dec 2014

...patrolled by white cops

underpants

(182,739 posts)
3. Public employees have a lot more protections then employees of the private sector
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:28 PM
Dec 2014

Cops in major cities also usually have union coverage too.

Having started in a public sector last year I was amazed at the difference. At my last job firings were so common that we routinely had to check the phone tree to see who worked there. An office mate of mine was fired and his desk cleaned out while I was gone for maybe 3 minutes.

There are constant attacks on public employees for being lazy and so forth but I haven't seen it. Once I hit my 1 year anniversary I have protections and even before that professional treatment that private sector employees would die for. Pay is competitive (and openly posted) but the benefits are outstanding - basically what they should be everywhere but that cuts into the bottom line.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
4. I think that by and large, they don't care if they take a life.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 01:19 PM
Dec 2014

In fact, I think they're callously indifferent when it happens.

Look at how long they left Mike Brown's body lie in the street, and how they refused to render any sort of aid to Eric Garner as he passed away. I think they are trained that it is war on the streets, us (meaning the cops) vs. them (black folks far too often, but really, any member of John Q. Public will do).

When you vanquish your enemy on the battlefield, through sword or rifle, you do not immediately go to their aid or even bury their bodies. Rather, you taunt them and strut around and wave your arms like the victor you are, and let the birds pick their bones clean. Hence, the mugging for cameras or taking selfies after the fact, letting dead or dying people lie in their own blood, and overall disrespect for the act that just occurred.

Being legally allowed to do this under the protective arm of the government just adds to the triumph. They are rarely even charged much less convicted, and it looks like most of them even get paid time off while the incident is 'investigated'. I think they've passed around the script that seems to work best, and it includes phrases such as "he reached for his waistband", and, "I was afraid for my life", to name a few. So yeah, it's all CYA

What would they do if they had real jobs? I honestly don't think they could hold down many types of jobs. Their need for control and acknowledgement of their supremacy just would not go over well in the modern work climate.

(Obligatory disclaimer: of course there are cops who are genuinely stricken with they take a life while on duty. When I was younger I would have assumed that most of them feel this way. That opinion has certainly changed.)

Gothmog

(145,086 posts)
5. It appears that the police union will protect these officers no matter what they do
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:40 PM
Dec 2014

It looks like it is a very high bar to get a police officer fired

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
6. They are clearly above the law
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:00 PM
Dec 2014

I presume that's why they act like they are. Sad.

Even more sad is that the folks that love to hate the government also seem to put that hatred aside very quickly as long as the bad cops are killing minorities. They can't cheer them on enough. The racism is so patently obvious.

I'm sure minorities have known that for just about always. But as a white person the last 6 years or so have opened my eyes further and the view is depressing. I might've liked it better before the election of Obama caused people to be unable to keep their racism tamped down. But objectively it's probably better for it to be out in the open for all to see.

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